The age of consent ...(sex)

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Raven's Nest

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Julianking93 said:
I was mainly aiming it at the reason consent laws are in place. A 5 year old isn't going to agree to sex, so therefore, its rape.
The laws of statutory rape means that if you have sex with a minor, you are raping them because they are not old enough to give consent.

I think it's the relationship between Statutory Rape and the Age of Consent that needs adjusting. Removing them won't protect anyone.

faceless chick said:
A few months ago I witnessed a conversation between 3 13-year-old kids, one of them being a relative fo a friend.. One of the other boys was laughing at him because he was "13 and still a virgin" and if he were in the other's place, he'd "pound the girl silly" (with appropriate gesture)

So, if someone is laughed at for being a virgin at the age of 13 nowadays, I'm curious how bad it's going to get?
When I was 13, we were still playing hopscotch 0.o. We used to laugh as girls who might have had sex at 13 calling them "sluts".

Will kids have sex at 6 in a couple of years?
Yeah that is disturbing. But I think it's up to older people to step in and put things straight. If we keep avoiding sex education in school, we will end up with this problem. As well as more STD's and rabid children.

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Would you find the idea of me having sex with a 16 year old repulsive and/or peadophillic? If so, why?
Depends, how old are you?
22, but I was posing the question more along the guise of would anyone find anyone having sex with a 16 repulsive. The ladies love having sex with me, as if any one would question that, pffft...
 

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in canada the age of consent was raised from 14 to 16 (personally i think 14 was a little young) since there is also a provision for people within a few years if under the age of consent, and most of the time it is the parents who charge the other person (usually it's the male who is charged) with statuatory rape.
however: in canada the age of consent for homosexual sex (anal, the rest is "foreplay") is 18. so only heterosexuals are allowed to have sex before 18... curious distinction in the legal system, so it is ok ti be gay in canade, but only if you are 18 or over.
some people may find it distasteful to find out a 37 year old and a 16 year old are "intimate" but as long as they are heterosexual, it is legal.
sex is more than an act. I am surprised how many people are completely ignorant of the psyiological and psychological ramifications or consequenses of sex, some women write into a dear abby type column and ask if there is a way to not get emotionally attached to the men they sleep with. that is what i call a consequence. emotional attachment, like attraction is a CHEMICAL REACTION designed to go along with the act, in my opinion, anyone not capable of understanding that, is probably too young for intercourse. parents should educate their children, it is wholly irresponsable to expect the schools to do it for you.
 

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Actually in the U.S. it depends on a state by state and case by case basis. Just to throw up an example say I'm 18 and I sleep with a 17 year old, in my state (Florida) thats perfectly fine because theres some a grace period built into the system that covers small differences in age (about a year or less in difference). Now say I'm 20 and I have a girlfriend thats 17, in the state of Florida if her parents know about and consent our relationship it's perfectly legal for me to have sex with her. Now if the parents do not know (or claim to not know) then yes I could face charges for having sex with a minor, but even then it's iffy if the girl is close to being 18.

Edit: Forgot to mention that if it's some huge difference like say 13 and 20 then yeah your facing charges...and hell if the parents know they too could face charges for negligence.

So yeah it differs depending on where you are and what the laws in your state are.
 

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Aqualung said:
From Canada's Department of Justice site:

The age of consent is 18 years where the sexual activity involves exploitative activity, such as prostitution, pornography or where there is a relationship of trust, authority or dependency. For other sexual activity, the age of consent is 14 years.

The Criminal Code provides what is often referred to as a "close in age" or "peer group" exception: a 12 or 13 year old can consent to engage in sexual activity with another person who is less than two years older and with whom there is no relationship of trust, authority or dependency.
Interesting.

And I do find it a bit odd, you having sex with someone who is 16. And you're 22, non? 6 years... That's too big an age gap, personally.
i think tyhats a very interesting way of looking at it, and probally the best idea out there


I do know that this was a big issue for my 15 year old self and his 6 month younger girl friend of the time, we stopped when i hit 16 because we both knew a guy who is still on the sex offenders list for sleeping with a 15 year old girl when he was 16, and he is in his twenties now
 

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In that vein, why the fuck is the legal age for sex lower than the legal age for watching porn? I honestly don't know.
 

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Julianking93 said:
I don't think there should be an age of consent.

The age of consent doesn't make any difference. If people are gonna fuck, they're gonna fuck no matter what the law says.

People say that "The age of consent cuts down on rapes" Oh, fuck off! A rapist isn't gonna give a shit what the law says. He's already gonna rape someone, he's not gonna be like, "Oh, your just 17, I shouldn't rape you today."
It's more statchatory rape, for those older men taking advantage of ignorant young girls. Like if your 20 and the girl is 15 even if she consents it's still rape.

OT: Here in the US I believe it's at a reletivley good age. (16).
 

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Srkkl said:
Julianking93 said:
I don't think there should be an age of consent.

The age of consent doesn't make any difference. If people are gonna fuck, they're gonna fuck no matter what the law says.

People say that "The age of consent cuts down on rapes" Oh, fuck off! A rapist isn't gonna give a shit what the law says. He's already gonna rape someone, he's not gonna be like, "Oh, your just 17, I shouldn't rape you today."
It's more statchatory rape, for those older men taking advantage of ignorant young girls. Like if your 20 and the girl is 15 even if she consents it's still rape.

OT: Here in the US I believe it's at a reletivley good age. (16).
Yeah, like what Roman Pilanski is getting arrested for. That means that my girlfriend could be arrested for rape. (She's 21, I'm 16.)

And the legal age here in the US is 18 mostly, but in states like Rhode Island, its 16.
 

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I could give a bigger shit about the age of consent in my state (18). In my opinion it'a a statemetn of how uptight California is. I also think it's stupid that they let 18 year olds buy guns, have sex, buy property, but buying a case of Coors "Lite" is out of the question.
 

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Julianking93 said:
I was mainly aiming it at the reason consent laws are in place. A 5 year old isn't going to agree to sex, so therefore, its rape.
But you can't really say that for certain. A five year old isn't even going to know what sex is - and kids at that age are very impressionable and easy to manipulate. Generally, I'd rope off all prepubescents. They have no actual physical desire for intercourse. They'd only ever consent to it out of peer pressure or the influences of modern culture; neither of which are even remotely acceptable reasons for it in my mind.
 

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17 in Texas, 16 with parental approval.

Which is frickin strange--what parent would say 'Yeah, my kid can have sex'? (And yes I know that parents give their consent, it's just weird to have in paper)
 

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I think the way the US does it is fine. I believe they're does have to be a limit on it.

But apparent;y in the US its illegal for kids under 18 to have sex or to share naked pics or something (even if the law is not really enforced)

I also think its ridiculous for it to be illegal for an 18 year old to bang a 17 year old
 

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Spatzist said:
Julianking93 said:
I was mainly aiming it at the reason consent laws are in place. A 5 year old isn't going to agree to sex, so therefore, its rape.
But you can't really say that for certain. A five year old isn't even going to know what sex is - and kids at that age are very impressionable and easy to manipulate. Generally, I'd rope off all prepubescents. They have no actual physical desire for intercourse. They'd only ever consent to it out of peer pressure or the influences of modern culture; neither of which are even remotely acceptable reasons for it in my mind.
Okay, for the last time, read my post to Valate. I said that the age of consent should be when the person can reproduce.
 

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Well, someone posted the Canadian thing, so I'm done on that.

With personal say, I always thought (in the case of heterosexual marriage, do to reproduction and all that) that someone should be in a position where they can care for an "accident" in the "worst case" scenario. I don't know, maybe they can't have an abortion or put up for adoption for some odd reason, but yes. If they can care for a child. Not saying that all sex should be reproductive, just saying, you can go in armed with enough protection to stand against the Russian tanks circa 1940-45, and there's still always that teensy percent risk, and I always bid on the side of caution, if only because not doing so in that case won't kill you.

And of course, I'd prefer it if the two people were at least in a dedicated relationship, but now I'm just day dreaming. Basically, I want the people to have plans if things might not turn out hunky dory. Is that too demanding?

And on the stance of gay sex, I'd prefer if they were in a dedicated relationship, with them not having the severe worry about pregnancy.

So, I'd say 18, but if you happen to be the manager of a MacDonald's at 15, and you and your girlfriend are mature, dedicated people, and you're ready for the scenario (whether you're expecting it or not, that part I don't care much for), I'll live with it.

Some people may think I'm sounding mean, but I always want to think of the children. On the case of abortion and adoption, that doesn't necessarily sit too wrong with me, but I've always found taking that responsibility more admirable, is all.

Oh yes, STDs. Well, in general case, this would come from being active all over, right? Or maybe being active with someone who was. In the former case, I'd never advise that, because that would contradict my idea of a dedicated relationship. Unless it's in your past, of course, then I simply advise caution in the standard ways, but if you're active with everyone, I can't condone with you, trouble seeks what trouble gets, and I don't consider this act a past time. Protect yourself at least, but again, always double check. Clinics and all that, doctors are very understanding people. I would hope, in most areas.

In the latter case, well, some people who've fooled around a lot can turn and say they're done, or something, and be a "pure soul", or whatever you might define them as. I suggest that (you not being this person, but being in a relationship with them) also ask them to go to Dr. Clinic for a check up, but if you can be 100% sure without, go ahead. But if you can't do the first, and be sure of the second, be cautious, in the standard speal.

Again, I may feel like I'm being too harsh, after all, what do I know? 15-year-old virgin, but I know too many younger than me that aren't even thinking about this, and I'd at least like for them to do so.

In conclusion (tl;dr) - I say if you can support an "accident", in case of such thing occurring, and you having no choice but to care for it (if it's such a bad thing to care for it, it's best to assume people don't want to, I suppose), you're in a dedicated relationship, and you and your partner are free/prepared for any STDs that either may have contacted, it's fine by me. I'd say I'd prefer people be older than 18, just so the majority of hormones calm down, but if you can manage maturity at a younger age, I suppose I'll live.

But keep in mind, everyone, I'm picky about this, if only because people who do so too young are somehow off-putting to me. I can't explain why, not a religious thing or prejudiced, merely something about the attitude that the majority of these people portray, and me seeing/thinking "no good reason" really.
 

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Does anyone know what it is in Japan?

Been trying to find that out for ages.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
I think it should be raised to 30.
I have to agree, even if you were joking, and I know people might hate on me, but I feel that if you're not done growing by then, you're never going to finish, but at that age you're pretty much guaranteed to be unclouded by all those growing years hormones that make people do such crazy shit.
 

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kahlzun said:
Does anyone know what it is in Japan?

Been trying to find that out for ages.
I'm going to say any age under 18 is legal.

(I kid, but still; Manga)

EDIT: Apparently, from jurisdiction, the range is 13-18.

Well... different culture, can't do anything about it.
 

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Cavouku said:
kahlzun said:
Does anyone know what it is in Japan?

Been trying to find that out for ages.
I'm going to say any age under 18 is legal.

(I kid, but still; Manga)

EDIT: Apparently, from jurisdiction, the range is 13-18.

Well... different culture, can't do anything about it.
Az (gaijinsmash.net) says its 16 or 17. He's also hit on by the girls he teaches english to. He finds it fucked up.