The age of consent ...(sex)

[Serge A. Storms]

In the U.S., the only acceptable form of sex education in public school systems is total abstinence, which essentially means that if you fall somewhere between 9 and 18 in the U.S., sex will be portrayed as bad and "dirty" by your school system and awesome and without any consequences by fellow students. This makes the age of consent an utterly useless "moral stance" that politicians ride on for votes, just like being against gay marriage and for keeping "under God" on money. The age of consent is only there right now because it's easier to call everyone that has sex with a minor a pedophile than it is to attempt challenging the current system if you're trying to get elected to a public office.

EDIT: As far as actual rape goes, the courts should be capable of figuring out if the sex was consensual if the case makes it to trial (the bigger issue, of course, is getting rape cases to trial, something that the age of consent doesn't do anything to help). The age of consent simply draws an arbitrary line between what should be considered "statutory rape" and what is simply a young person fucking.

You would have been right for the other 8 years of the millennium, but Obama put a stop to that. So, score one for Obama (One of the best presidents since Lincoln).

Yeah, and I'm Jimmy Page.

 

[posom2]

Age of consent should be 16-18, but viewing sexual material should be completely legal. I mean doesn't pornographic material cut down on rape and spontaneous 'bad sex' if people have an outlet for their overactive teenage hormones?

 

[Pegghead]

A few months ago I witnessed a conversation between 3 13-year-old kids, one of them being a relative fo a friend.. One of the other boys was laughing at him because he was "13 and still a virgin" and if he were in the other's place, he'd "pound the girl silly" (with appropriate gesture)

Ever heard of a thing called lying, or the phrase "Kids are idiotic nowadays".

But aside from that, I think the legal age here in Australia is either 16 or 18, for sex.

 

[Lonan]

I don't think there should be an age of consent.

The age of consent doesn't make any difference. If people are gonna fuck, they're gonna fuck no matter what the law says.

People say that "The age of consent cuts down on rapes" Oh, fuck off! A rapist isn't gonna give a shit what the law says. He's already gonna rape someone, he's not gonna be like, "Oh, your just 17, I shouldn't rape you today."

Ahh but then you have the whole paedophilia thing, which is what the age of consent is meant to protect against, because a 40 year old man could easily claim that he got consent from a 6 year old and legally it would all be fine and dandy. Still I think the age of 16 is fine, people who are younger then that and consenting will get on with it anyway (its not like either of thems going to tell the police) but it prevents weird child sex crap.

Are you suggesting that a 15 year-old male is a "child," and cannot have sex with a woman? I made a big post which included that in it.

 

[Flunk]

Well, I'm not sure about Canada but I'm pretty sure it's 18. Doesn't matter though, most people are gonna do it by the time they're 16 anyways.

Not me though, I'm playing it safe.

It's 16 and has been since 2008 which is when it was raised from 14.

Are you suggesting that a 15 year-old male is a "child," and cannot have sex with a woman? I made a big post which included that in it.

I would claim that, yes. If only to make you angry. Teasing adolescents is fun.

 

[Lonan]

People will probaby label me a weirdo for saying this, but I have a very old-school "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed" mentality; as long as they've hit puberty, I don't have issue with them doing the deed... under the correct circumstances, of course (for example, two 12-year-olds who had an arranged marriage), and within a country/society's legality.

So you need to marry someone to have sex with them? Do two 18 year-olds need to be married to have sex? It seems like you're putting you're personal sensibilities into this. I respect that you said that that your views are your own, and not indisputable fact, but I certainly hope you don;t ever become a lawmaker with such an opinion. Marriage? Who's going to pay for that? The parents? Why should they? People being tied to the bonds of marriage when they've just reached puberty? I, personally, would vote against such a bill if I were a politician.

 

[Insanum]

16, and i think its right.

If your 14 not only may you not be fully developed, But you will not be mentally mature enough to accept the consequences if something goes awry.

16 is fine, Personally if they raised it too 18 it wouldn't bother me.

 

[Serge A. Storms]

In the U.S., the only acceptable form of sex education in public school systems is total abstinence, which essentially means that if you fall somewhere between 9 and 18 in the U.S., sex will be portrayed as bad and "dirty" by your school system and awesome and without any consequences by fellow students. This makes the age of consent an utterly useless "moral stance" that politicians ride on for votes, just like being against gay marriage and for keeping "under God" on money. The age of consent is only there right now because it's easier to call everyone that has sex with a minor a pedophile than it is to attempt challenging the current system if you're trying to get elected to a public office.

EDIT: As far as actual rape goes, the courts should be capable of figuring out if the sex was consensual if the case makes it to trial (the bigger issue, of course, is getting rape cases to trial, something that the age of consent doesn't do anything to help). The age of consent simply draws an arbitrary line between what should be considered "statutory rape" and what is simply a young person fucking.

You would have been right for the other 8 years of the millennium, but Obama put a stop to that. So, score one for Obama (One of the best presidents since Lincoln).

Yeah, and I'm Jimmy Page.

No, really. Bush was giving benefits to schools who taught abstinence, and Obama shut that down instantly and he promotes teaching safe sex in schools. Any school that doesn't is just doing it because they are uber-religious.

Dude, I actually live in the U.S., Obama hasn't actually done anything significant to stop "abstinence only" education except state the obvious (that it doesn't work) and fuck with benefits. That hasn't changed sex education significantly in most schools in the U.S.

 

[RobCoxxy]

Would you find the idea of me having sex with a 16 year old repulsive?

Yes, because I don't want to picture you doing a 16 year old. :]

OT:
I'm 18. My girlfriend's 16. I'm cool with that.

 

[Supreme Unleaded]

Here in New Hampshire (U.S.A.) its 16, but with our neibors Maine its a really confusing consent law, your head will just get screwed up by it.

I think 16 is fine, however i really wouldnt encourage someone at 16 to just sex it up, seriosly just because you can get a job its not like its going to be a good one for when you get pregnant and shit.

So pretty much all im saying is 16 is fine for consent, just use a damn condom.

 

[smithy1234]

I don't think there should be an age of consent.

The age of consent doesn't make any difference. If people are gonna fuck, they're gonna fuck no matter what the law says.

People say that "The age of consent cuts down on rapes" Oh, fuck off! A rapist isn't gonna give a shit what the law says. He's already gonna rape someone, he's not gonna be like, "Oh, your just 17, I shouldn't rape you today."

Yeah and pedophilia would no longer be a crime you moron. If there's no age of consent for sex then pedophiles would be able to have sex with kids.

 

[smithy1234]

I don't think there should be an age of consent.

The age of consent doesn't make any difference. If people are gonna fuck, they're gonna fuck no matter what the law says.

People say that "The age of consent cuts down on rapes" Oh, fuck off! A rapist isn't gonna give a shit what the law says. He's already gonna rape someone, he's not gonna be like, "Oh, your just 17, I shouldn't rape you today."

Almost exactly what I was going to say. In no way does it cut down on rape at all. Isn't it technically rape to be like 19 and have sex with a 17 year old or something? I'm not completely sure of the exact laws but still there is no good reason to have a law on this.

Again, same thing I said to the OP. PEDOPHILIA WOULD NO LONGER BE A CRIMINAL OFFENSE YOU IDIOTS, that is the good reason to have a law on this.

 

[Godavari]

*sighs* There is a level of maturity that you must attain before engaging in X activity, but sadly there is no test for maturity, blah, blah, blah...

So yeah, the mature 16-year-olds should be able to have sex. Which, coincidentally, includes myself.

 

[captainwillies]

if she can read, she can bleed.

 

[captainwillies]

I don't think there should be an age of consent.

The age of consent doesn't make any difference. If people are gonna fuck, they're gonna fuck no matter what the law says.

People say that "The age of consent cuts down on rapes" Oh, fuck off! A rapist isn't gonna give a shit what the law says. He's already gonna rape someone, he's not gonna be like, "Oh, your just 17, I shouldn't rape you today."

Almost exactly what I was going to say. In no way does it cut down on rape at all. Isn't it technically rape to be like 19 and have sex with a 17 year old or something? I'm not completely sure of the exact laws but still there is no good reason to have a law on this.

Again, same thing I said to the OP. PEDOPHILIA WOULD NO LONGER BE A CRIMINAL OFFENSE YOU IDIOTS, that is the good reason to have a law on this.

just use the half your age plus seven rule.

 

[rhyno435]

Well, I'm not sure about Canada but I'm pretty sure it's 18. Doesn't matter though, most people are gonna do it by the time they're 16 anyways.

Not me though, I'm playing it safe.

It's 16 and has been since 2008 which is when it was raised from 14.

Oh...wow, I've been living in the dark then lol.

 

[Kimarous]

People will probaby label me a weirdo for saying this, but I have a very old-school "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed" mentality; as long as they've hit puberty, I don't have issue with them doing the deed... under the correct circumstances, of course (for example, two 12-year-olds who had an arranged marriage), and within a country/society's legality.

So you need to marry someone to have sex with them? Do two 18 year-olds need to be married to have sex? It seems like you're putting you're personal sensibilities into this. I respect that you said that that your views are your own, and not indisputable fact, but I certainly hope you don;t ever become a lawmaker with such an opinion. Marriage? Who's going to pay for that? The parents? Why should they? People being tied to the bonds of marriage when they've just reached puberty? I, personally, would vote against such a bill if I were a politician.

I wasn't focussing so much on the actual marriage aspect. I'm currently studying anthropology in college and was simply using the "young arranged marriage" as an example of another culture's views on the matter; note the "and within a country/society's legality" portion immediately afterwards.