The Big Picture: Enough With The Batman Already!

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Kinokohatake

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Easy way to reboot Green Lantern. Act like the first one didn't happen and redo it but pretty much lift the script of Training Day and put it in space. Sealed and done. I'd watch the hell out of that. Wonder Woman, have her first movie her fighting an intrusion of mythological creatures who have invaded the US. The Flash would be a great disaster movie witha super fast guy and a bad guy behind it. Think that one run away train movie or hell a Speed esque movie but with the flash in the second half of the movie. He's well loved in his home city, show us why.
 

NathanS

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werewolfsfury said:
how people act like batman is the only "thinking hero" who doesn't solve problems through punching.
I find that attitude somewhat amusing. Because I feel it relates to a big reason Bats is doing better then some most other DC heroes. Hold, on because this is about to get nerdy. Batman is seen as the "thinking hero" because he has no powers, and because for a long time now the Super Hero genre has been and seen mainly as an action genre, it's about "how do you beat up the bad guy." in such a genre, a character not having powers would put them to a focus as the planner.

This is way you get "DC heroes are boring, they're all too powerful!" but when most of those guys were made, or were being supped up to godlike power levels it was the Silver Age and DC Silver Age comics were NOT action focused. You read them not see how Sups could beat up some dude, but to see wacky places and powers, and uses of powers. Villains were almost all of the puzzle box verity, "Superman has to be in two places at once! what creative use of his powers will he use to solve this?" types stuff was the norm, beating up villain directly was always impossible, and far from the point.

Back then all of DC heroes were thinking heroes.
 

MetallicaRulez0

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I was bored of Batman before he was even popular. Random rich guy with a bunch of gadgets and a homoerotic suit beats up bad guys. Woo. So exciting... compared to Superman, Alien Jesus. Yea, I can see why Batman is more popular. /eyeroll

I watch superhero movies for the "super" part. There's nothing "super" about Batman except his bank account. He's boring. He's mundane. He's ordinary. His only remarkable trait is courage, which EVERY superhero has.
 

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I have two things to say about this:

1. Yeah, Batman should take a break. I really don't want to start rolling my eyes every time I hear his name, like I do with Chuck Norris.

2. In the picture for the video, with all the different Batmen, it looks like Nolan-Batman has a tiny Arkham-Batman on propping himself up on his shoulder, not entirely unlike a parrot on a pirate captain.
 

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teamcharlie said:
Here's one immediate, easy way to make Batman new again: Adam West him the fuck up. Make him an archaic, ridiculous symbol of oldschool machismo, bring back the sexy 60s-looking ladies to fawn over and/or catwoman him, give him one of his sillier opponents to fight as a B-plot with waves of implausible goons and make everything as goofy as possible.
Oooo... And watch the nerdcore explode as they realize he's NOT dark and edgy.
I'd pay to see that. I really would.
 

lord.jeff

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I'm not so much tired of Batman movies but tired of not having any good DC movies other then Batman.
 

mailh20

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holy crap the metal poster (don't know the proper terminology)is the same one i have in my room right next to me while i watched this video whats even weirder is the fact that ever since one of the nails holding it up came loose it has been tilting at the angle shown in the video my laziness paid off!
 

The Random One

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The obvious thing to do is to bring in Batman cold, without a movie, than have him have a surprise backstory that causes him to betray the entire League, or pretend to betray the entire League in order to find out who the real villain is, or the person who is introduced as Batman is actually Batmite or something. Essentially Batman is a wildcard because the movie plays with our expectations of who he is.

Yup not gonna happen.
 

chozo_hybrid

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Ted Kord and Booster Gold could make a great duo film, joining the League afterward.


Heck, Jaime Reyes, the third Blue Beetle would be an awesome one, you do do the whole Reach storyline and have his film finish with Endgame, leading him to be noticed by the more recognized heroes and asked to join the League. I'd love to see that.
 

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I don't think it's possible to be "Batmaned" out. A Justice League movie without Batman and Superman's relationship playing a pivotal role in how Superman operates just won't be Justice League.

Batman is so vital to the Justice League as he's the only member of the "inner circle" without super powers. He is there to keep them all in check by employing methods that any average human could use to bring them down provided they had the resources or knowledge of what the weaknesses are.

The number of times Batman is recorded to have prevented Superman from doing something really destructive or stupid to the Justice League's reputation is nearly countless.

Batman is to Justice League as Iron Man & Captain America (COMBINED) are to The Avengers.
 

Rack

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Some good points but not really a coherent argument. You pointed out yourself how difficult it will be to make a new Batman movie that is accepted well in the coming years but if they don't have one then they are potentially missing out on the major draw of the Justice League movie. Right now pretty much no-one gives a crap about any DC hero that isn't Batman and WB can't make a Justice League movie no-one is interested in just because people liked the Avengers.

So a good Batman movie running up to the Justice League is pretty much necessary and very difficult. It's going to be a big deal no matter what. Of course if Man of Steel tanks then maybe they should just give up on the whole thing. But then they're in a position where Batman needs to breathe but he's the only character that doesn't tank horrendously.
 

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You know, I used to think that Batman over-saturation at the expense of the rest of the DC universe was a problem with the movies, but now Cartoon Network is cancelling their awesome and original Green Lantern cartoon in favor of a new Batman Cartoon, "Beware the Batman." Which, if the action figure line is any indication, is going to be an even more obvious toy shill than Ben Ten, with an art design so stylized it almost looks outright LAZY. But we all know how Cartoon Network seems to gravitate away from interesting and well made shows that grab a wide audience (Samurai Jack, Megas XLR, Symbionic Titan, Thundercats, etc) in favor of pandering toy commercials nowadays so it's not a surprise. At least Adventure Time and Regular Show are pretty secure, of course they have the much safer time slot.
 

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Maybe? Maybe?

MB202 said:
Bob mentioned this in one of his Junk Draw episodes, in that we drove Boba Fett and Chuck Norris into the ground, now we're doing the same with Batman... I guess that WAS enough to fill out and episode episode.
'Course, we drove Batman into the ground well before either was a thing, and neither were worth driving into the ground in the first place. Hell, the Chuck Norris craze was the failure to recognise a parody.

Now, I thin kthe big thing with Batman and filling an episode is that circumstances have changed.
 

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Spot1990 said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
LadyRhian said:
I was trying to think about what villain WB could bring to the table that could be powerful enough to take on the entire Justice League... and the only thing I came up with is Darkseid, And Batman dealing with Darkseid would be like nipples on a Batsuit-unnecessary, as well as outclassed.

Quick question: Do you know who Batman is? Due to writers compensating for putting the guy in a batsuit on a team with demigods, Batman has become the most feared and ruthless hero of DC's entire roster. His power is being the goddamn Batman.
That video sums up everything that's wrong with Batman. Batman's a normal human, that's his sell. Yet Darkseid (who can beat down Superman, who in turn has the strength to move planets) can punch him through a concrete pillar and Batman doesn't turn to soup. Superman can move faster than light and could punch someone into the sun, it doesn't matter how prepared you are, you're not reacting to that quickly enough. Batman has the ultimate super power, bullshit plot armour.
To be fair, Darkseid isn't trying to kill Batman, Bruce is visibly injured, and it's a PG13 film.

That said, I personally enjoy the absurdity of Batman's lack of acknowledged powers.
 

the.chad

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Regarding the power issues of the many jesus' of DC...

I wondered how they would deal with the Thor, the god of thunder, kicking too much ass in The Avengers...
But they made it work :)
 

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I wish people (In this case, MovieBob.) who openly profess to be fans of a particular intellectual property (In this case, Batman.) would just gracefully give up on something that they've clearly outgrown. It's kind of sad when people try to turn something into a glassy-eyed wax memorial of a past affection, instead of letting it grow in a direction they don't particularly care for.
 

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As someone who has never followed, read, or watched any Justice League fiction, how did they get the whole "team of people with god-like powers" to work in the first place? Even more god-like enemies?

The Avengers have got some tough people, like the Hulk, Thor and his magic hammer, and Captain America. But they don't hold a candle to Mr. Arbitrarily-Fast, Mr. Arbitrarily-Fast-plus-Arbitrarily-Strong, and Mr. Can Wish Anything Into Existence With a Magic Ring. It just doesn't seem like the type of thing that will work that well in a movie short of making the stakes absurdly huge, never mind a series of movies where the temptation is going to be to constantly re-up the intensity and re-capture what sold the first movie.

But then again, what do I know? As long as Wonder Woman looks hot, there's tons of explosions and action scenes, and either a melodramatic or funny plot, it will probably make a ton of money overseas.