I really hate your argument. Not because I disagree, but because of how you presented it. Let me explain:
RazadaMk2 said:
Ritter315 said:
I agree with pretty much everything there EXCEPT slut shame, because THAT does need to be called out, on both genders, because it de-humanizes sexuality and is the reason for rape and sexual assault TO BEGIN WITH.
I would like to see your proof that it dehumanises sexuality. Also, are you aware you posted that comment 4 times?
Nobody has the right to make assumptions about someone elses behaviour. If someone is promiscuous let them be that way, it does not effect you in any way, shape or form and is just another form of people expressing their own sexualities.
Dehumanises sexuality or just people having a bit of fun? *sigh*
Let's start here. I agree that the guy you responded to is wrong, but for entirely different reasons. The phrase "Dehumanize" means to deprive of the positive qualities of being human. People being 'sluts' does not deprive sexuality of the positive qualities of being human,
because sexuality didn't have them in the first place. To dehumanize, the thing being de
humanized has to be human. If the person wanted to say that it increases objectification or anything else, whatever, but the way he positioned it exposes his lack of understanding of the term at all.
and you didn't jump on it. I am a bit disappointed.
But someone can sleep around and still have a loving meaningful relationship with someone. It does not lesser their ability in any way, shape or form. The "Slut Hate" you get from gamers to me sounds too much like, well, gamers being annoyed at the lack of sex they get.
Finally...
You are fighting a stereotype about promiscuous women, and end it with a stereotype of gamers. Poor form, my friend. Poor form.
Well, nothing against you for not caring about issues.
No. Placidity towards issues such as these perpetuate the problem. Those who do not care and do not at least recognize the problem
are part of the problem.
Society is inherently sexist. It has been for years. Men enjoy far more perks than women (Tis fact. I will not bother trying to back it up. Because you will ignore my entire argument and label me as a white knight anyway. Which makes me question why I am bothering to reply to your statement. Oh well). Due to the different equality of means enjoyed by different layers of society, well, different parts of our communities can say different things.
Within heterosexual relationships (Let us keep that in mind, we are talking about sexism)...
88% of spouses abused are female, 12% male. So that is a reason why women are allowed to rag on about men.
Rape can only be committed by men (In British Law) and sexual assaults in general are FAR more likely to be committed by men.
Roughly 1 in 5 women will be raped over the course of their lifetime.
Well, those are a few reasons.
So!
You said you weren't going to prove that society is sexist, yet provided one of the biggest proofs that it is. Also, the ability to commit rape being exclusively male doesn't prove that the world is sexist. It's also pretty damn wrong (not the fact, that is correct, rather the UK's opinion on the issue).
Considering women will face constant sexual harassment, greater risk of assault at the hands of the opposite sex and inequality within the home, within the workplace and within society as a whole, they can rag on about how men are bastards all they like.
Extension of this logic:
it is okay for women to stereotype, but men cannot.
I don't think you wanted it to end up that way, but that is the extended logic.
And considering there are relatively few crimes committed against men by women, when a dude starts to mouth off about how horrible his lot is due to women it comes across as rather rich.
While the other ones are provably true, the one you stated here isn't. Or, at the very least, it needs to be supported rather than just blatantly stated. It is not what they would call 'common knowledge' and thus can't be just stated and accepted as fact by any critically thinking individual.
It is all about context. Are you blaming WOMEN or A WOMAN? It can make all the different. I blame A WOMAN for my life going off the rails. I do not blame WOMEN for anything.
And, outside of radial feminist movements, it is hard to find women that blame MEN for things and not A MAN. This is an important distinction.
Not all feminists are feminazis.
You're final point is correct, but the middle section is another assertion that can't be proven, and common knowledge would suggest it is wrong. Women do blame Men, just as often as Men blame Women. All genders fall victim to hasty generalizations occasionally.
And not all "White Knights" are limp-wristed apologists or people who worship the ground that women walk on. Some people just care about equality. Because, perhaps, they grew up in a conservative muslim country (Like I did) and saw the true face of inequality.
I feel it probably would have been better said here that "White Knight" is an insult that is not an insult, but overall this is a good ending.
I apologize for the content of this entire post.
