The Big Picture: PC Gaming Is Dead - Long Live PC Gaming!

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imagremlin

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WaaghPowa said:
imagremlin said:
Whilst I obviously didn't read all comments, the majority of "pc defenders" around just reinforce Bob's arguments.

IT DOESN'T MATTER if you love your PC so much. That you think it will always be unmatched, that all other platforms are a joke and you'll never let it go.

The market is moving, and the investors will move with it.
yes, it is rather obvious you didn't read the comments. If you go a few pages back you'll find a video you must watch.
Saw it.
Didn't change my point of view.

I don't think I can be more eloquent than Bob, but I'll add a few bits.

A DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A POINT IF VIEW. I AM NOT STATING FACT, NOBODY CAN UNLESS THEY OWN A WORKING CRYSTAL BALL.

Again, It doeen't matter that you can build a gaming PC for dirt cheap. Average Joe out there doesn't want to do that.

This is a bit of a paradox. PC gaming is an exclusive "do it yourself" club, and admit it, you like it like that. That is Bob's main point, that the functions a PC would fulfil on at home are being replaced by appliance like devices. Just plug it it. A PC is not an applicance unless is a Mac and we know how much that counts for gaming. Price may not be a consideration anymore, but convenience and ease of use is.

That is why the PC Gaming market has played second fiddle to the consoles market for over a decade now.

And here comes the kicker: I believe mobiles and tablets are going to push PC's to third place as they fight for the top spot. When average joe realizes that tables/mobiles do 90% of he needs (email, browsing, Facebook) that's when the relevance of PCs at home may go into serious decline.

Don't think the publishers are considering this? Just check Tim Schaffer's twitter feed. The market for Steam may be healthy right now, but it's the mid term we're talking about here. That may not be the case in five year's time.

In any case, when all is said and done, the big gray box ain't going away, neither are laptops. Its the gaming market for them that I think will decline. PC's will live on, at offices around the world, as well as developer and engineering houses. They'll be used to create games... that run in other platforms. At home? not so much.
 

imagremlin

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Kouryuu said:
imagremlin said:
Whilst I obviously didn't read all comments, the majority of "pc defenders" around just reinforce Bob's arguments.

IT DOESN'T MATTER if you love your PC so much. That you think it will always be unmatched, that all other platforms are a joke and you'll never let it go.

The market is moving, and the investors will move with it.
Yeah it will be forgotten may be it will be called differently after a millennia, but The PC is a concept. Windows, a xbox a mac, iphone are products, have you ever heard of a PC2, I guess no, because the PC is not a brand or a product. That is just like saying that food will disappear. May be Tacos will, but food as nourishment Won't. I have a PC in my pocket a HTC, I disable the phone program and its a basic a PC. that is just like saying that food will disappear. May be Tacos will, but food as nourishment Won't
We are not outraged that he thinks that stationary towers will diaper, hell I do too, but the PC will be around long after the consoles are forgotten.
Umh... where did I say PC's will dissapear? Please check my response to WaaghPowa.
 

Lazyjim

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An intersting video.

Though for myself I think that it is Console gaming that it irrevocably doomed. The reason is the convergence of technology, a massively obvious example being mobile phones. Ones all these little brick shaped devices could was make phone calls. Now they are miniature computers, miniature personal computers.
In the world of tomorrow we will all have immensly powerful computers capable of running any app, or game we want, probably conencted to some cloud resource. A bigger version will probably lurk in our homes, the final genesis of the 'home media centre'.
In such a world who will want the highly limited, single purpose machines that are the consoles? No one.

Bob is probably right that PC gaming as we know it is dying, but it's not heat death of the universe dead, it's more a reincarnation. What we think of as a personal computer is changing, and PCs will reemrge from this time of transistion as devices that are far beyond what we have now.


In short console fans, you may strike us down, but we will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
 

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So Bob will be happy, as this has now reached 1000 posts. This was such a succesfull troll.

Really am sick of this discussion. Everyone loves to predict what things will come and replace the PC. But guess what, they are never right. This has been happening since the first playstation. And guess what it's still here. Really give it up already. Yeah something may land a killingb blow on PC gaming, but it is not any of the things that people are predicting. If there is something that is really good the PC will just integrate it borg style.

Really PC gaming is some 20+ years old and for most of that has had obituraries written for it, give up already. All the will happen is that PC gaming will evolve as it always has.

Really until something better comes aling PC gaming is going nowhere. It's share of the market will just ebb and flow.
 

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Tablets are not replacing dying computers, nor is anything else. Computers are just so powerful, comparatively, that nothing can stand up to a good gaming PC on any mechanical level. It's all left to size. Only quantum computing could change that and that's a ways off. Sure, eventually the PC may be replaced, but my guess is that only tablets will be singularly versatile enough to do so, and only by becoming touch screen laptops. What I can see right now is an expensive, decentralized load of well... stuff. I think only tablets could fill that void, but even then, nobody could have these:





And how could we ever be without that?
 

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I have to disagree with you Bob. The counsels trend right now, is moving towards becoming PC's themselves. Eventually we will have a manufactured PC with a really crappy operating system and PlayStation or XBOX logo stamped on the side.

You suggest, that for every use a PC has, it can be replaced by some other useless gadget. I like to use my computer to make and render 3D models. No other gadget will have the power to do this. You suggest that for each use of the PC there will be a device for that one process. I suggest we combine all these devices into one device, Ohh wait we already have a device that does that and its called a personal computer. Why clutter you life with a bunch of little useless devices that are made with the the solo intent of stealing your money, when you can buy the one device that does it all for a cheap price.
 

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Chibz said:
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Like I said, PC game sales rose last year
I'm going to do something you probably won't see here (as a PC supremist).

I demand evidence.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/01/pc-is-strong-pc-games-revenue-up-20/

Revenue up last year by a fifth. I'd posted it somewhere else but I was spread out across 5 different conversations in the thread.

Steam's increasing steadily too - there are frequently 3 million users logged in at once when I am.
 

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I'm trying to get into PC gaming but it's. Well. it's expensive. You can't just pickup a game and play it on the home computer it's probably to unadvanced to work properly and you can't play an old game because they are incompatible without certain software that you just to buy just to make that not the case. Oddly enough he did not mention that so I am apparently the only poor person around here.

Look at all those comments. Where was I when this video first came out?
 

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PC gaming pushes the technological limits of hardware to the point where there will always be a market for gaming PC's simply because they let you do more than any console or tablet which only has the processing power of gaming machines built two or three years ago.

Improvements in miniaturization are only possible because companies push the boundaries on what they can do in a limited space (i.e. the size of a PCI-E board); it is a simple fact of computing that larger systems will ALWAYS be faster than compact, portable systems simply because they have room for two to four (or more) times the transistors.

The only way PC gaming will ever truly die is if hardware technology surpasses the creativity of programmers (edit: or, admittedly, the funds) to effectively take advantage of the increased processing power, and I don't see that happening any time soon.

Maybe when we have a world-simulator MMO accurate down to the micrometer scale...
 

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STRATEGY

Shogun II: Total War

Might and Magic Heroes VI
New entry in one of the most beloved turn based strategy series of all time.

Age of Empires Online
The rebirth of one of the biggest RTS franchises of all time.

DOTA 2
The mod that started the whole genre is now getting a commercial sequel from Valve Software.

Combat Mission: Battle for Normandy
After disappointing affair with modern combat Battlefront returns to what they do best: WWII tactical wargames

King Arthur II

Cities in MotionT
Spiritial successor to Transport Tycoon from Paradox Interactive.

Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Remake of a classic tactical TBS.

Jagged Alliance 3

Sword of the Stars II
Sequel to a great 4X game.

End of Nations
MMORTS from Petroglyph. Their last RTS was Universe at War, which scored 8.0 at IGN.

Frozen Synapse
An indie simultaneous turn-based tactical game.

Dungeons
Spiritual successor to Dungeon Keeper.

The Sims Medieval

Real Warfare 2: Northern Crusades
Continuaton of XIII Century: Death or Glory, which scored 7.2 at IGN./

A Game of Thrones: Genesis
Epic strategy game based on legendary novel series. It?s being designed Cyanide, which is the studio that made Blood Bowl videogame adaptation.

Pirates of the Black Cove
Pirates-themed RTS.

Project MyWorld
A virtual recreation of the real world combined with 3D gaming and social media.

Stronghold 3

Anomaly: Warzone Earth
Tactical game that plays like a revers of tower defense genre. It?s being made by 11 bit, a new studio formed

Magna Mundi
Commercial follow-up to the best Europa Universalis 3 mod ever made.

Panzer Corps
Spiritual successor to Panzer General.

Xenonauts
Indie turn-based tactical game inspired heavily by X-COM.

Blight Of The Immortals
Web based strategy game set in fantasy universe. It?s being made by Iron Helmet, a small australian company formed by ex-Irrational Games people who already made Neptune?s Pride.

Six Gun Saga
A primarly singleplayer card strategy game from Cryptic Comet, creators of Armageddon Empires and Solium Infernum.

Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II ? Retribution
Second add-on to this great RTS.

Battle of Kingdoms
MMO game inspired by Defense of the Ancients, made by creators of DotA Chaos.

Trapped Dead
Commandos-like zombie game

HistWar: Les Grognars
A tactical and strategical game of insane depth by Battlefront

Stronghold Kingdoms
Browser adaptation of Firefly Studios? most well know series.

The Settlers Online
Browser adaptation of classic series.

Dungeon Empires
Browser game inspired by Dungeon Keeper.

Dungeon Overlord
Browser game inspired by Dungeon Keeper.

Cultures Online
Browser version of popular city building series.

World Supremacy
Turn based ?conquer the world? grand strategy game from Malfador Machinations, makers of Space Empires series.

Spice Road
a trading and city management game by the people who created Light of Altair (7 from IGN and 7.5 from Out of Eight and )

Men of War: Vietnam
Single centric stand alone expansion to Men of War (great tactics-heavy wargame that scored 8.0 at IGN)

Men of War: Assault Squad
Multi player centric stand alone expansion to Men of War (great tactics-heavy wargame that scored 8.0 at IGN)



ROLEPLAYING

Diablo 3

The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Sequel to one of best roleplaying games on last few years.

Dead State
Indie zombie RPG from ex-Troika and Obsidian designers.

Drakensang: The River of Time
Prequel to Drakensang

North Star
A space trading/combat RPG with turn-based combat by Kerberos (ex Barking Dog guys
and makers of Homeworld: Cataclysm and Sword of the Stars)

Grim Dawn
Action RPG from ex Iron Lore staff (where they worked on Titan Quest)

Chantelise
Japanese indie RPG from EasyGameStation (makers of Recettear: An Item Shop?s Tale)

Darkspore
Hack and Slash from Maxix (makers of Sim City, Sims and of course Spore)

Avadon: The Black Fortress
New RPG from makers of Geneforge and Avernum series. This time Spiderweb finally has completely redesigned their graphics system.

Age of Decadence
Hardcore indie RPG

Torchlight II
Sequel to a hack and slash RPG that scored 8.6 at IGN.

The Broken Hourglass
An old-school Baldurs Gate 2-like RPG, done by Planewalker Games-indie team consisting of cRPG modders, lead by Jason Compton (the best BG2 modder, he did wonders to NPC and party members dynamic interaction). The game takes place in Tolmira (sword-and-sorcery setting, which PlaneWalker licensed) has isometric perspective, unlimited party, complex party-to-party interactions, lots of good old-school roleplaying and real-time with pause combat system

Dropship
A turn-based SF wargame with RPG elements developed by ex-Troika guys using the Source engine

Drakensang: Phileasson?s Secret
First add-on to rakensang: The River of Time.

Forged by Chaos
Online action-rpg using CryEngine2

Star Wars: The Old Republic
Star Wars MMORPG from Bioware.

Guild Wars 2
Original Guild Wars scored 9.0 at IGN

Mytheon

Villagers and Heroes
Action-rpg from Mad Otter games, a small indie company made of Dynamix veterans, headed by Damon Slye(co-founder of Dynamix and lead designer of Aces of the Pacific, Aces Over Europe, Red Baron and A-10 Tank Killer) who previously released Ace of Aces on Instant Action

Otherland
Cyberpunk MMORPG based on novels by Tad Williams, handled by the development studio Real U, formed around a core of ex-Melbourne House talent (as Eurogamer put it? 8-bit heroes of The Hobbit and The Way of the Exploding Fist, and then cult classic Shadowrun, who in later years struggled valiantly with the tide of licences and conversions heaped on them by Atari, sometimes triumphing against the odds (as in PS2 Transformers)? )

Drakensang Online
Cooperative online RPG.

Neverwinter
Online cooperative RPG with powerful adventure building tools, from Cryptic (makers of City of Heroes and Champions)

Tera
Beautiful MMORPG with action-game like combat, by ex-Lineage devs.

Stellar Dawn
Sci-Fi MMO from makers of Runescape

Rift: Planes of Telara

Salem
Crafting-heavy MMO with perma-death from Paradox (makers of series like Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron)

Untitled Carbine Studios MMORPG
Carbine is a team composed of RPG veterans(including Blizzard ones) like Tim Cain
(one of creators of Fallout and Arcanum) and Jeremy Gaffney (founder of Turbine)



ADVENTURE

Gray Matter
New adventure game from the empress of the genre: Jane Jansen (creator of Gabriel Knight series)

Black Mirror 3

Vampyre Story 2: A Bat?s Tale
Sequel to one of the best adventure games of 2008

Haunted
New aventure from Deck 13, makers of Ankh series and Jack Keane

Hazard: The Journey Of Life
First person exploration puzzler that?s a commercial follow-up to one of best UT3 mods ever made.

The Next Big Thing
New adventure game from Pendulo Studios. The last game from this team (Runaway: A Twist of fate) scored 8.0 at Adventuregamers.

Deponia
Hand painted post apocalyptic cyberpunk adventure game in glorious 1440×900 resolution

Culpa Innata 2: Chaos Rising
The first one got 7.5 from Gamespot

The Book of Unwritten Tales

The Book of Unwritten Tales: the cattle?s chronicle.
Prequel to humoristic adventure game that scored 90% on Adventure-treff, 91% at Adventurecorner.de and 85% from Gamestar, making it one of highest rated adventure games in germany in years)

Dead Mountaineer Hotel
Last-Express like adventure game(meaning non-linear, NPC have AIs, goals, daily routines and walk freely over the gameworld) based on Strugacki Brothers? novel, made by Akella.

Black Sails
Pirate themed adventure game from Deck 13, makers of Ankh series and Jack Keane.

Gemini Rue
SF adventure game that?s one of the student prize winners at the 2010 Independent Games Festival

Bracken Tor: The Time of Tooth and Claw
New horror adventure game from Shadow Tor Studios, makers of Barrow Hill, which got 8.0 from Adventuregamers

Edna and Harvey: The Breakout
An english version of one of best german adventure games of 2008 (it gathered 84% average of scores from german sites and magazines, including 83% at Adventure-Treff and 87% at Adventurecorner)

Blackwell Deception
Fourth entry in popular adventure series.

Prominence
Indie hard-sf adventure.

Dracula: Origin 2
The first one got 7.0 from Adventuregamers

Mozart

Coven
New game from makers of Rhiannon (7.5 from Gamespot)

Shades of Violet: Episode 1 ? Tale of the Clockwork Princess
Indie steampunk adventure game

Resonance
First commercial game from maker the incredible freeware adventure game ?What Linus Bruckman Sees When His Eyes Are Closed?

Cargo
New puzzle game from makers of Void and Pathologic.

Asylum
New horror adventure game from people who created Scratches, which scored 8.0 at Adventuregamers.

Saturated Dreamers
Indie exploration game from makers or Immortal Defense



ACTION

Night Sky
NightSky is a nice place to visit. The physics-based gameplay is clever, but the real draws are the beautiful scenery and the ambient electronic soundtrack. It?s recognizable at a glance, which isn?t something that can be said for every game. ? from IGN

Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Sequel to 8.5 WWII tactical shooter. What?s more, RO2 will singleplayer campaigns for both Russian and German sides.

Minecraft
Indie retro action and sandbox construction game.

Firefall
Massive online FPS from RED5 Studios (ex Blizzard people) and lead designer of Tribes 1 and 2.

Natural Selection 2
Commercial sequel to one of best mp MODS of all time

Heroes and Generals
Online WW2 FPS from a studio formed by lead designers of Hitman series.

CHIVALRY: Battle for Agatha
First-person medieval online combat game running on Unreal Engine 3.0. It?s being developed by a team behind Age of Chivalry mods.

Depth
Indie aquatic stealth game running on Unreal Engine 3. The team is filed with people who created the first version of Killing Floor.

Contagion
Single and multiplayer horror FPS from makers of Zombie Panic! Source mod.

Bounty Arms
Indie platformer running on Unreal Engine 3.0.

The Spire
Indie FPP action-adventure with strong puzzle element built on Unreal Engine 3.0.

Warface
Free military FPS from Crytek.

Snapshot
Snapshot is a 2d sidescrolling game in which the player takes on the role of ?Pic? The player controls Pic as well as a camera that can take photos of the environment. Photos can capture objects such as boxes, enemies, and other things. The player can then use these photos to move objects around in the world to complete each level. One of finalists for 2009 Independent Games Festival?s Excellence in Design Award

Rusty Hearts
Action fighting MMO.

Sanctum
Interesting mix of FPP action and tower defense, running on Unreal Engine 3.0.

Tactical Intervention
New tactical FPS from creator of Counterstrike

Dead meets Lead
Indie zombie action game.

Musorqua
New indie action title from Dejobaan Games, makers of AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!!-A Reckless Disregard for Gravity (82% average at Gamerankings)

Closure
Unique puzzle platformer that?s expanded and improved follow up to a great freeware game.

Monaco
Indie heist game that?s nominated for 2010 IGFSeumas McNally Grand Prize, developed by Pocketwatch games, makers of Wildlife Tycoon(IGF finalist) and Venture Arctic (Gametunnel?s sim game of the year)

Delta Force: Angel Falls

Swarm Racer 3000

Naumachia ? Space Warfare
A multiplayer space battle sim in which you can start piloting individual fighters with standard FPS controls (mouse/keyboard) and then when your rank advances it?s possible to command capital ships and their fighter squadrons with a dedicated RTS-like interface. Developed by people who previously made Specialist mod for first Half-life

ArcMagi
As developer himself put it: ?I like to think of it as a true PC fighting game. Dynamic and up-to-the-point, but very strategic, controlled by mouse and with strong character development elements.?

Blitz 1941
MMO Tank action game with light simulation elements from the makers of Navy Fields (it was similiar MMO action game with sim elements)

Lone Wolf: Flight from the Dark
Action-adventure based on legendary ?Choose your own adventure? gamebook series

FEIST
Unique puzzle platformer, which was awarded Best Overall Game and Best Visual Design at the Unity Awards 2008.

Ascension
Freeware spiritual successor to Tribes, created by the team that made the Renegade mod for Tribes, Tribes2 and Tribes: Vengeance

Assault Knights
Indie mech game

Gettysburg Armoured Warfare
A large scale RTS/FPS hybrid set in an alternative universe and featuring persistent armies.

They Hunger: Lost Souls
Original Hunger was THE best single-player mod for Half-life. Now the team returns with commercial follow up based on Source engine

Sugar Rush
Online arena combat game from Klei Entertainment (indie dev responsible for Eets)

Black Sky
Open ended StarControl2 like game

Iron Seed 2
Follow up to forgotten classic (it?s not well known now, but back in the days it rivaled Star Control 2 in quality)

Seasons after Fall
Beautiful indie puzzle platformer where you use effects seasonal changes to overcome obstacles.

The Swapper
Very promising and unique puzzle platformer based around the idea of a device that can create copies of yourself with whom you can then swap placesIt features interesting light, shadow and relativeness based game mechanics blended with an ambiguous storyline embedded directly into and told throughout the game.

Battlefield Play4Free
Free to play entry in classic FPS franchise.

Bloodline Champions
Indie arena-based game.

Cobalt
Indie platformer from the makers of Harvest: Massive Encounter.

Swimming Under Clouds
An indie 2-D physics-based puzzle platformer

Sky Legends
Online arcade flying game from the studio that made Snoopy: Flying Ace (console game that scored 9.0 at IGN)

Rising Storm
First add-on to Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad, made as colaboration with mod teams.

E.Y.E
Indie FPS/RPG hybrid running on Source engine. People who work on it previously made great Half-Life mod called Syndicate Black Ops

Ground Branch
Tactical shooter from Blackfoot( which is composed of RainbowSix, Rogue Spear and Ghost Recon leads)



RACING

rFactor 2
The first rFactor became the rulling standart of PC racing sims and the most popular modding platform for fans of the genre, not to mention it?s engine was the basis for majority of other good PC racing sims of recent years (like GTR 1-2, Race series, Arca simracing or GT Legends)



SIMULATION

IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover
Follow-up to one of the greatest flight sims ever made.

DCS: A-10C Warthog

Microsoft Flight
Finally, a new flight sim from Microsoft.

Steel Armor:Blaze of War
Mew tank sim from the makers of Steel Fury (which was one of the best tank games of all time)

Space Shuttle Mission Simulator 2
Sequel to the best sim of it?s kind.

World of Tanks
A MMO PvP tank combat game set in World War 2 setting from Wargaming.net,akers of Massive Assault (8.4 from IGN) and upcoming Order of War

Battlestar Galactica Online
Space combat MMO

Jet Thunder
Historical air combat sim from Thunder Works

Jumpgate Evolution
A sequel to space sim MMO that got 8.6 from Gamespoit

Black Prophecy
SF space MMO.

Fighter Ops

Seven-G
Indie F-18 Flight Sim.

BlackStar Chronicles
An action MMO described as a mix of the single-player traditions of Wing Commander with the multiplayer feel of Descent. It?s being developed by a team of people who previously worked on sadly canceled Privateer Online as well as on Star Wars Galaxies

Infinity: The Quest for Earth
MMO space simulator with huge procedurally generated universe



PUZZLE/CASUAL

SpaceChem
SpaceChem succeeds as a very interesting puzzle game thanks to innovative mechanics with limited design constraints. You are given the freedom to combine elements and destroy compound bounds as you see fit; the end product is the only set goal, and the efficiency in which you deliver your requirement is up to you. (?)SpaceChem is a fantastic puzzle game great for any fan of the genre. ? 8.5 from Out of Eight website

Subversion
Fourth Introversion game (after Uplink, Darwinia and Defcon)

Arcada Mia?s
New puzzle game from the maker of Dangerous High School Girls In Trouble.

Farmlands
By Caffeinated Games, a company founded by the former Lead Tools Engineer of Zipper Interactive (SOCOM fame) Greg Chudecke who prior to Zipper worked on Backyard Skateboarding (Atari) and Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Black Label Games)

Revenge of the Titans!
Tower defense game from Puppy Games, makers of Droid Assault, Titan Attack and Ultratron.

Fool and his money
Sequel to legendary Fool?s Errand.

Pontifex III
Sequel to one of best indie puzzle games ever made


MULTIPLATFORM


Mass Effect 3

XCOM

Bulletstorm
SF FPS from People Can Fly, makers of Painkiller.

Crysis 2

RAGE
New shooter from id Software

Dragon Age II
Sequel to a great RPG from Bioware that scored 9.2 at IGN.

Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Test Driver Unlimited 2
Sequel to a racing game that scored 8.0 at IGN.

Duke Nukem Forever
It looks like it will really happen by Gearbox?s (developers of Borderlands) hands.

Brink
FPS from Splash Damage, makers of Quake Wars (8.5 from IGN)

Beyond Good and Evil 2

Deus Ex 3

Portal 2

American McGee?s Alice II
The first one got 9.4 from IGN

Max Payne 3
Max Payne got 9.3 from IGN, while it?s sequel scored 9.4

Dead Space 2
The first one got from IGN

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine PC
Action game from Relic.

Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
Fantasy RPG from Big Huge Games (makers of Rise of Nations) and lead designer of Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.

Trine 2
Sequel to 8.2 platformer.

Rock of Ages
A head-to-head, real-time tower defense game in which two players alternate between defending and attacking. When attacking you control a big-huge boulder that?s rolling towards your opponent?s gates. If you?re the one on the defense your attempt to slow and divert your boulder by placing towers, fans and units in boulder?s path. It?s being made by ACE Team, makers of Zeno Clash (which got 8.4 from IGN).

Tomb Raider
Reboot of a classic franchise.

Assassin?s Creed: Brotherhood
Console version scored 8.0 at IGN.

Columbus 4
Episodic adventure series from Animation Arts, makers of Lost Horizon and Secret Files series.

Jurassic Park: the Game
Episodic action-adventure from Telltale Games (makers of Sam and Max Episodes, Back to the Future and Tales of Monkey Island).

Defenders of Ardania
Tower defense set in Majesty series world.

Hamilton?s Great Adventure
A co-op puzzle game from makers of Lead and Gold (7.0 at IGN).

Dust
Spiritual successor to Populour created by Eric Chahi, the designer who made Another World (known as Out of this World in USA).

Red Faction: Armageddon
The previous entry in this franchise (Red Faction: Guerrilla) scored 8.0 at IGN.

Dungeon Siege III
THird entry in the popular hack and slash franchise. This time it?s being developed by Obsidian Entertainment, known for creating RPGs like Knights of the Old Republic 2 or Neverwinter Nights 2.

Operation Flashpoint: Red River

Orion: Prelude
Commercial follow up to a popular mod.

Top Spin 4
New entry in the best tennis series of all time.

Section 8: Prejudice

Bastion
Inie action RPG from ex-EALA team members.

Captain Morgane
Semi sequel to adventure game So Blonde, which scored 8.0 from Adventuregamers.

The Haunted: Hell?s Reach
Multiplayer horror action game that?s a commercial follow-up to a mod that won Make Something Unreal competition.

Kings and Castles
Fantasy RTS from Gas Powered Games, makers of Supreme Commander series (on IGN first one scored 8.9, while the sequel 8.4 got).

The First Templar
Co-op centric action-adventure from Haemimont Games, makers of games like Tropico 3 (8.4 from IGN) or Celtic Kings: Rage of War (8.2 on the same site) and The Punic Wars: A Clash of Two Empires (8.0 from IGN).

Vessel
Indie platformer which gameplay based on manipulating fluids.

Dungeon Hero
From Firefly studios (makers of great Stronghold series and medicore Stronghold: Legends and CivCity, we?ll see how they do here)

Agency
Spy-themed action MMO from SOE

The Secret World
A MMO from makers of Age of Conan and Longest Journey franchise

Batman: Arkham Asylum 2
Sequel to action-adventure game that scored 9.3 on IGN

Spec Ops: The Line

Metal Gear Solid: Rising

Tom Clancy?s Ghost Recon: Future Soldier

Driver: San Francisco

Mechwarrior
The classic series returns.

Solaris Assault Tech
Multiplayer game set in BattleTech universe from people who for the last 12 years modded previous MechWarrior games as MekTek group.

Need For Speed: Shift 2
Sequel to a racer that scored 9.0 from IGN.

The Cursed Crusade
Action game from ATLUS

Gatling Gears

Alien Breed 3: Descent

A Vampyre Story: Year One
Episodic prequel to humoristic adventure game series.

Death to Spies 3
Stealth action game heavily inspired by Hitman and set in Cold War era.The first one scored 8.0 at IGN.

Tropico 4
Another entry in this great city building series. Tropico 3 scored 8.4 from IGN

F.E.A.R. 3
First one scored 9.2 at IGN, while the second got 8.2 on the same site.

Fable 3

DC Universe Online
Superhero MMO from Sony Online Entertainment (Everquest 1-2, Planetside, Star Wars Galaxies)

Battlefield 1943
Downloadable-only MP game in vein of original Battlefield 1942.

Burn Zombie Burn
Indie action game. PlayStation 3 version scored 8.3 at IGN

Sky Gods
A tactical shooter from BlackfootStudios(made by Red Storm veterans), bassicaly this is a smaller game that will provide funding for Ground Branch as well as be a testing ground for the tech and gameplay ideas,

A New Beginning

Postal 3

Project Owlboy
Retro platformer

The Testament of Sherlock Holmes

Skulls of the Shogun
Turn based strategy game from ex-EALA developers.

Off-Road Drive
Off road racing simulator.

Captized
Baitiful indie retro platformer.

Toki Arcade
High res remake of the classic arcade game

Source - "Reasons to be a PC Gamer" [http://www.pcgamingfan.com/]


As for the Hardware debate. In no way shape and form can your phone, your laptop or your console provide the same high fidelity experience that a modern desktop can.

Desktops have better visuals, audio and overall performance. Heck the basic gaming desktop of today is easily a generation ahead of the console. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.247185-Crytek-PCs-Are-a-Generation-Ahead-of-Consoles]

If graphics, sound and data storage did not matter, we would all still be playing Space Invaders.


Edit: Corrected generation gap and provided a link to the article. My old memory is not as good as it used to be.
Gah!
Hazah! this to its fullest extent! (I even got shogun 2 yesterday :D) This better explains my previous rant in a non banning mannor, i like it
Diablo 3 may not be on that list ultimately: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/711050/blizzard-teases-diablo-3-on-consoles-pc-gamers-around-the-world-mourn/
Really???? NOOOOOOO!!!! It has always been a PC only game though... Ohwell, there are many other great titles in that list
If I am looking at my games I see a perfectly working Playstation version of Diablo und a perfectly working Mac version of Diablo 2. Yes Diablo was always PC exclusive *sarcasm* Got that out of my system. Just hate it when people make uneducated claims.

On topic: Bob mentions computer gaming dying because shooter and adventure games have gone to consoles and the only games you need a PC for are web-games like World of Warcraft or Zynga games and simulators, god-games and on a brief note starcraft.
First of all World of Warcraft is serious gaming as are Zynga-games. Games are not serious. Spank the monkey is as good a waste of time as playing Call of Duty or Street Fighter.
Second of all Bob acts as if PC gamers are hateful of Nintendo for being so much better off with Super Mario Bros. 3 and The Legend of Zelda (we all know you are a fanboy (the mean meaning of fanboy) to a fault Bob) than PC gamers with their games because we did not have any fun playing adventure games for example. Yes you had to be rich back in the days so you could play the games. I could say this part of the video is a cryout of Bob who wants to deny his past self not being fortunate enough to afford a gaming PC. Getting sidetracked now, just using same tactic on Bob himself.
Third of all going back to point one, yes we still have strategy games, simulator games, Massive Multiplayer Online games and these are viable markets. And the PC-based RPG (i.e. Wizardry, Might and Magic, Forgotten Realms´titles, The Dark Eye´s titles, Bioware´s Dragon Age Origins) is still best played on a PC.
Last of all is Bob you do not know what you are talking about. Just to answer your question.
 

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No.

Personal computers still exist separate from consoles, simply because the consoles are purpose built for gaming.

PC's are blank slates, customisable by design.
Consoles are very limited, almost as if their creators fear ignorant tampering from their customers.

Say what you will about the future, there is a difference between a blank slate and a slate with a Monopoly board drawn on it.
 

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I don't disagree with the guy because of the title, I disagree because he is an idiot. He fails to make a single valid point throughout the video.

/First person shooters are TERRIBLE on consoles compared to on PC
/All motion controllers are annoying at best for anything but wii sports & the like
/Do PCs no longer support keyboards & mice where this guy lives?
/A laptop is merely a mobile PC, not a printer. Gaming on a laptop is PC gaming.
/Tablets (touch screens in particular) are terrible for gaming
/In home cloud computing the PC is king:

If you are running a system where resources are shared across multiple devices to maximise the performance and mobility of whatever you are currently using you do not remove the single most powerful device you have. You invest heavily in your computing powerhouse so that you don't have to for the rest of your devices. What is that powerhouse; the PC. So even if your PC is actually a small box next to your boiler, you are still using it when you play Crysis 5 on your kitchen TV.


//The guy hasn't even touched the real reasons why console gaming has taken over PC gaming, which we all know are cost and ease of use. However I really fail to understand how the author interprets the fact that consoles are becomming more and more like PCs as evidence that PCs are dieing. I honestly think that he has misunderstood what the main difference between a PC and a console is, or rather what a PC is at all.

The simple truth is that as time goes by users expect their devices to get better. Of course this means they will be faster, include more features, be more efficient etc. This applies to almost any piece of technology avaliable (such as a car) and even to other products such as the food we eat. Now, this is entirely an argument based in the computing world and what in the computing world is the fastest, most efficient and offers the most features? The PC.

It seems that for too many people their idea of a PC is that of a desktop computer. That is: a case containing the electronics, a monitor, speakers along with a mouse and keyboard. This is correct for the most part (there are of course variances) but it is more of a description of what a PC looks like rather than what a PC is. So what do I think a PC is? I think a PC is merely a static computational device which supports everything. You can game on your PC but you can also surf the web (more easily than on a mobile device), work, communicate with anybody you wish etc. Virtually anything you can do on any electronic device can be done on a PC apart from take it with you.

The author said himself in the video if he could do the things he does on his PC on a console he happily would. Well I say when that day comes you no longer own a console. All you would be doing is operating another branded PC system, likely with a terrible, restrictive OS that will piss you off to no end until people revert to windows & the like. The only device which the PC will not replace is the mobile phone because we need something to take with us. The Mobile phone won't replace the PC either though, not even your Crysis running future phone. The reason for that is that static computers will always be more powerful than mobile computers and consumers will demand an even higher level of processing power at home than on their phone. I wouldn't be suprised if someone from the 1980s on learning that modern smartphones contain multi core processors running at over 1Ghz presumed nobody owned any other computational device.
 

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Woodsey said:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/01/pc-is-strong-pc-games-revenue-up-20/
A real source, please.

Jachwe said:
First of all World of Warcraft is serious gaming as are Zynga-games.

Last of all is Bob you do not know what you are talking about. Just to answer your question.
CONTRADICTION AND HYPOCRACY - DANGER DANGER DANGER...

 

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Well done Sir Bob, well done. Change should be embraced rather than wailed against but there is one fault to your final words. It shall not be tablet folk versus cybernetic eye folk but Tablet versus Augmented Reality via Personal Area Network.
 

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Desktop PC's becoming irrelevant?

Who honestly would rather play on a tablet, smartphone or laptop? Portability is all well and good, but you don't need portability when you get home.

I'm quite disappointed in this video, it really was ill conceived, and strayed too far from basic common sense.

His argument is basically arguing that not only PC's, but consoles will be void too. When speaking in his "futurist" hat, he is basically saying something that could just as easily be applied to the xbox. If cloud computing seriously takes over (*snort*), then the guts of an xbox are just as useless as the guts of a PC. Both are equally nonviable.

The days of hunching over a keyboard and tapping being dead? What? Isn't that one of the major reasons people use PC's? Even if consoles took the keyboard and mouse market, you'd still see people "hunch over and tap" on a keyboard.

RTS isn't just going to die, and as there of yet has not been a better way to play RTS games but the keyboard and mouse, it will survive, and flourish.

Besides, tell that to South Korea and you'd be laughed all the way into a hydralisk den.
 

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The last minute of this video makes the entire thing completely pointless.

"PC gaming is dead, but PC games are not."

WHOA, big difference there Bob. Why didn't you title it "The Death of the PC" instead of falsely implying an entire medium of game distribution is about to die? I agree that the "home computer" is going to be wholly replaced by the laptop soon, but that has no effect on gaming.
 

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STRATEGY

Shogun II: Total War

Might and Magic Heroes VI
New entry in one of the most beloved turn based strategy series of all time.

Age of Empires Online
The rebirth of one of the biggest RTS franchises of all time.

DOTA 2
The mod that started the whole genre is now getting a commercial sequel from Valve Software.

Combat Mission: Battle for Normandy
After disappointing affair with modern combat Battlefront returns to what they do best: WWII tactical wargames

King Arthur II

Cities in MotionT
Spiritial successor to Transport Tycoon from Paradox Interactive.

Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Remake of a classic tactical TBS.

Jagged Alliance 3

Sword of the Stars II
Sequel to a great 4X game.

End of Nations
MMORTS from Petroglyph. Their last RTS was Universe at War, which scored 8.0 at IGN.

Frozen Synapse
An indie simultaneous turn-based tactical game.

Dungeons
Spiritual successor to Dungeon Keeper.

The Sims Medieval

Real Warfare 2: Northern Crusades
Continuaton of XIII Century: Death or Glory, which scored 7.2 at IGN./

A Game of Thrones: Genesis
Epic strategy game based on legendary novel series. It?s being designed Cyanide, which is the studio that made Blood Bowl videogame adaptation.

Pirates of the Black Cove
Pirates-themed RTS.

Project MyWorld
A virtual recreation of the real world combined with 3D gaming and social media.

Stronghold 3

Anomaly: Warzone Earth
Tactical game that plays like a revers of tower defense genre. It?s being made by 11 bit, a new studio formed

Magna Mundi
Commercial follow-up to the best Europa Universalis 3 mod ever made.

Panzer Corps
Spiritual successor to Panzer General.

Xenonauts
Indie turn-based tactical game inspired heavily by X-COM.

Blight Of The Immortals
Web based strategy game set in fantasy universe. It?s being made by Iron Helmet, a small australian company formed by ex-Irrational Games people who already made Neptune?s Pride.

Six Gun Saga
A primarly singleplayer card strategy game from Cryptic Comet, creators of Armageddon Empires and Solium Infernum.

Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II ? Retribution
Second add-on to this great RTS.

Battle of Kingdoms
MMO game inspired by Defense of the Ancients, made by creators of DotA Chaos.

Trapped Dead
Commandos-like zombie game

HistWar: Les Grognars
A tactical and strategical game of insane depth by Battlefront

Stronghold Kingdoms
Browser adaptation of Firefly Studios? most well know series.

The Settlers Online
Browser adaptation of classic series.

Dungeon Empires
Browser game inspired by Dungeon Keeper.

Dungeon Overlord
Browser game inspired by Dungeon Keeper.

Cultures Online
Browser version of popular city building series.

World Supremacy
Turn based ?conquer the world? grand strategy game from Malfador Machinations, makers of Space Empires series.

Spice Road
a trading and city management game by the people who created Light of Altair (7 from IGN and 7.5 from Out of Eight and )

Men of War: Vietnam
Single centric stand alone expansion to Men of War (great tactics-heavy wargame that scored 8.0 at IGN)

Men of War: Assault Squad
Multi player centric stand alone expansion to Men of War (great tactics-heavy wargame that scored 8.0 at IGN)



ROLEPLAYING

Diablo 3

The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Sequel to one of best roleplaying games on last few years.

Dead State
Indie zombie RPG from ex-Troika and Obsidian designers.

Drakensang: The River of Time
Prequel to Drakensang

North Star
A space trading/combat RPG with turn-based combat by Kerberos (ex Barking Dog guys
and makers of Homeworld: Cataclysm and Sword of the Stars)

Grim Dawn
Action RPG from ex Iron Lore staff (where they worked on Titan Quest)

Chantelise
Japanese indie RPG from EasyGameStation (makers of Recettear: An Item Shop?s Tale)

Darkspore
Hack and Slash from Maxix (makers of Sim City, Sims and of course Spore)

Avadon: The Black Fortress
New RPG from makers of Geneforge and Avernum series. This time Spiderweb finally has completely redesigned their graphics system.

Age of Decadence
Hardcore indie RPG

Torchlight II
Sequel to a hack and slash RPG that scored 8.6 at IGN.

The Broken Hourglass
An old-school Baldurs Gate 2-like RPG, done by Planewalker Games-indie team consisting of cRPG modders, lead by Jason Compton (the best BG2 modder, he did wonders to NPC and party members dynamic interaction). The game takes place in Tolmira (sword-and-sorcery setting, which PlaneWalker licensed) has isometric perspective, unlimited party, complex party-to-party interactions, lots of good old-school roleplaying and real-time with pause combat system

Dropship
A turn-based SF wargame with RPG elements developed by ex-Troika guys using the Source engine

Drakensang: Phileasson?s Secret
First add-on to rakensang: The River of Time.

Forged by Chaos
Online action-rpg using CryEngine2

Star Wars: The Old Republic
Star Wars MMORPG from Bioware.

Guild Wars 2
Original Guild Wars scored 9.0 at IGN

Mytheon

Villagers and Heroes
Action-rpg from Mad Otter games, a small indie company made of Dynamix veterans, headed by Damon Slye(co-founder of Dynamix and lead designer of Aces of the Pacific, Aces Over Europe, Red Baron and A-10 Tank Killer) who previously released Ace of Aces on Instant Action

Otherland
Cyberpunk MMORPG based on novels by Tad Williams, handled by the development studio Real U, formed around a core of ex-Melbourne House talent (as Eurogamer put it? 8-bit heroes of The Hobbit and The Way of the Exploding Fist, and then cult classic Shadowrun, who in later years struggled valiantly with the tide of licences and conversions heaped on them by Atari, sometimes triumphing against the odds (as in PS2 Transformers)? )

Drakensang Online
Cooperative online RPG.

Neverwinter
Online cooperative RPG with powerful adventure building tools, from Cryptic (makers of City of Heroes and Champions)

Tera
Beautiful MMORPG with action-game like combat, by ex-Lineage devs.

Stellar Dawn
Sci-Fi MMO from makers of Runescape

Rift: Planes of Telara

Salem
Crafting-heavy MMO with perma-death from Paradox (makers of series like Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron)

Untitled Carbine Studios MMORPG
Carbine is a team composed of RPG veterans(including Blizzard ones) like Tim Cain
(one of creators of Fallout and Arcanum) and Jeremy Gaffney (founder of Turbine)



ADVENTURE

Gray Matter
New adventure game from the empress of the genre: Jane Jansen (creator of Gabriel Knight series)

Black Mirror 3

Vampyre Story 2: A Bat?s Tale
Sequel to one of the best adventure games of 2008

Haunted
New aventure from Deck 13, makers of Ankh series and Jack Keane

Hazard: The Journey Of Life
First person exploration puzzler that?s a commercial follow-up to one of best UT3 mods ever made.

The Next Big Thing
New adventure game from Pendulo Studios. The last game from this team (Runaway: A Twist of fate) scored 8.0 at Adventuregamers.

Deponia
Hand painted post apocalyptic cyberpunk adventure game in glorious 1440×900 resolution

Culpa Innata 2: Chaos Rising
The first one got 7.5 from Gamespot

The Book of Unwritten Tales

The Book of Unwritten Tales: the cattle?s chronicle.
Prequel to humoristic adventure game that scored 90% on Adventure-treff, 91% at Adventurecorner.de and 85% from Gamestar, making it one of highest rated adventure games in germany in years)

Dead Mountaineer Hotel
Last-Express like adventure game(meaning non-linear, NPC have AIs, goals, daily routines and walk freely over the gameworld) based on Strugacki Brothers? novel, made by Akella.

Black Sails
Pirate themed adventure game from Deck 13, makers of Ankh series and Jack Keane.

Gemini Rue
SF adventure game that?s one of the student prize winners at the 2010 Independent Games Festival

Bracken Tor: The Time of Tooth and Claw
New horror adventure game from Shadow Tor Studios, makers of Barrow Hill, which got 8.0 from Adventuregamers

Edna and Harvey: The Breakout
An english version of one of best german adventure games of 2008 (it gathered 84% average of scores from german sites and magazines, including 83% at Adventure-Treff and 87% at Adventurecorner)

Blackwell Deception
Fourth entry in popular adventure series.

Prominence
Indie hard-sf adventure.

Dracula: Origin 2
The first one got 7.0 from Adventuregamers

Mozart

Coven
New game from makers of Rhiannon (7.5 from Gamespot)

Shades of Violet: Episode 1 ? Tale of the Clockwork Princess
Indie steampunk adventure game

Resonance
First commercial game from maker the incredible freeware adventure game ?What Linus Bruckman Sees When His Eyes Are Closed?

Cargo
New puzzle game from makers of Void and Pathologic.

Asylum
New horror adventure game from people who created Scratches, which scored 8.0 at Adventuregamers.

Saturated Dreamers
Indie exploration game from makers or Immortal Defense



ACTION

Night Sky
NightSky is a nice place to visit. The physics-based gameplay is clever, but the real draws are the beautiful scenery and the ambient electronic soundtrack. It?s recognizable at a glance, which isn?t something that can be said for every game. ? from IGN

Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Sequel to 8.5 WWII tactical shooter. What?s more, RO2 will singleplayer campaigns for both Russian and German sides.

Minecraft
Indie retro action and sandbox construction game.

Firefall
Massive online FPS from RED5 Studios (ex Blizzard people) and lead designer of Tribes 1 and 2.

Natural Selection 2
Commercial sequel to one of best mp MODS of all time

Heroes and Generals
Online WW2 FPS from a studio formed by lead designers of Hitman series.

CHIVALRY: Battle for Agatha
First-person medieval online combat game running on Unreal Engine 3.0. It?s being developed by a team behind Age of Chivalry mods.

Depth
Indie aquatic stealth game running on Unreal Engine 3. The team is filed with people who created the first version of Killing Floor.

Contagion
Single and multiplayer horror FPS from makers of Zombie Panic! Source mod.

Bounty Arms
Indie platformer running on Unreal Engine 3.0.

The Spire
Indie FPP action-adventure with strong puzzle element built on Unreal Engine 3.0.

Warface
Free military FPS from Crytek.

Snapshot
Snapshot is a 2d sidescrolling game in which the player takes on the role of ?Pic? The player controls Pic as well as a camera that can take photos of the environment. Photos can capture objects such as boxes, enemies, and other things. The player can then use these photos to move objects around in the world to complete each level. One of finalists for 2009 Independent Games Festival?s Excellence in Design Award

Rusty Hearts
Action fighting MMO.

Sanctum
Interesting mix of FPP action and tower defense, running on Unreal Engine 3.0.

Tactical Intervention
New tactical FPS from creator of Counterstrike

Dead meets Lead
Indie zombie action game.

Musorqua
New indie action title from Dejobaan Games, makers of AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!!-A Reckless Disregard for Gravity (82% average at Gamerankings)

Closure
Unique puzzle platformer that?s expanded and improved follow up to a great freeware game.

Monaco
Indie heist game that?s nominated for 2010 IGFSeumas McNally Grand Prize, developed by Pocketwatch games, makers of Wildlife Tycoon(IGF finalist) and Venture Arctic (Gametunnel?s sim game of the year)

Delta Force: Angel Falls

Swarm Racer 3000

Naumachia ? Space Warfare
A multiplayer space battle sim in which you can start piloting individual fighters with standard FPS controls (mouse/keyboard) and then when your rank advances it?s possible to command capital ships and their fighter squadrons with a dedicated RTS-like interface. Developed by people who previously made Specialist mod for first Half-life

ArcMagi
As developer himself put it: ?I like to think of it as a true PC fighting game. Dynamic and up-to-the-point, but very strategic, controlled by mouse and with strong character development elements.?

Blitz 1941
MMO Tank action game with light simulation elements from the makers of Navy Fields (it was similiar MMO action game with sim elements)

Lone Wolf: Flight from the Dark
Action-adventure based on legendary ?Choose your own adventure? gamebook series

FEIST
Unique puzzle platformer, which was awarded Best Overall Game and Best Visual Design at the Unity Awards 2008.

Ascension
Freeware spiritual successor to Tribes, created by the team that made the Renegade mod for Tribes, Tribes2 and Tribes: Vengeance

Assault Knights
Indie mech game

Gettysburg Armoured Warfare
A large scale RTS/FPS hybrid set in an alternative universe and featuring persistent armies.

They Hunger: Lost Souls
Original Hunger was THE best single-player mod for Half-life. Now the team returns with commercial follow up based on Source engine

Sugar Rush
Online arena combat game from Klei Entertainment (indie dev responsible for Eets)

Black Sky
Open ended StarControl2 like game

Iron Seed 2
Follow up to forgotten classic (it?s not well known now, but back in the days it rivaled Star Control 2 in quality)

Seasons after Fall
Beautiful indie puzzle platformer where you use effects seasonal changes to overcome obstacles.

The Swapper
Very promising and unique puzzle platformer based around the idea of a device that can create copies of yourself with whom you can then swap placesIt features interesting light, shadow and relativeness based game mechanics blended with an ambiguous storyline embedded directly into and told throughout the game.

Battlefield Play4Free
Free to play entry in classic FPS franchise.

Bloodline Champions
Indie arena-based game.

Cobalt
Indie platformer from the makers of Harvest: Massive Encounter.

Swimming Under Clouds
An indie 2-D physics-based puzzle platformer

Sky Legends
Online arcade flying game from the studio that made Snoopy: Flying Ace (console game that scored 9.0 at IGN)

Rising Storm
First add-on to Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad, made as colaboration with mod teams.

E.Y.E
Indie FPS/RPG hybrid running on Source engine. People who work on it previously made great Half-Life mod called Syndicate Black Ops

Ground Branch
Tactical shooter from Blackfoot( which is composed of RainbowSix, Rogue Spear and Ghost Recon leads)



RACING

rFactor 2
The first rFactor became the rulling standart of PC racing sims and the most popular modding platform for fans of the genre, not to mention it?s engine was the basis for majority of other good PC racing sims of recent years (like GTR 1-2, Race series, Arca simracing or GT Legends)



SIMULATION

IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover
Follow-up to one of the greatest flight sims ever made.

DCS: A-10C Warthog

Microsoft Flight
Finally, a new flight sim from Microsoft.

Steel Armor:Blaze of War
Mew tank sim from the makers of Steel Fury (which was one of the best tank games of all time)

Space Shuttle Mission Simulator 2
Sequel to the best sim of it?s kind.

World of Tanks
A MMO PvP tank combat game set in World War 2 setting from Wargaming.net,akers of Massive Assault (8.4 from IGN) and upcoming Order of War

Battlestar Galactica Online
Space combat MMO

Jet Thunder
Historical air combat sim from Thunder Works

Jumpgate Evolution
A sequel to space sim MMO that got 8.6 from Gamespoit

Black Prophecy
SF space MMO.

Fighter Ops

Seven-G
Indie F-18 Flight Sim.

BlackStar Chronicles
An action MMO described as a mix of the single-player traditions of Wing Commander with the multiplayer feel of Descent. It?s being developed by a team of people who previously worked on sadly canceled Privateer Online as well as on Star Wars Galaxies

Infinity: The Quest for Earth
MMO space simulator with huge procedurally generated universe



PUZZLE/CASUAL

SpaceChem
SpaceChem succeeds as a very interesting puzzle game thanks to innovative mechanics with limited design constraints. You are given the freedom to combine elements and destroy compound bounds as you see fit; the end product is the only set goal, and the efficiency in which you deliver your requirement is up to you. (?)SpaceChem is a fantastic puzzle game great for any fan of the genre. ? 8.5 from Out of Eight website

Subversion
Fourth Introversion game (after Uplink, Darwinia and Defcon)

Arcada Mia?s
New puzzle game from the maker of Dangerous High School Girls In Trouble.

Farmlands
By Caffeinated Games, a company founded by the former Lead Tools Engineer of Zipper Interactive (SOCOM fame) Greg Chudecke who prior to Zipper worked on Backyard Skateboarding (Atari) and Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Black Label Games)

Revenge of the Titans!
Tower defense game from Puppy Games, makers of Droid Assault, Titan Attack and Ultratron.

Fool and his money
Sequel to legendary Fool?s Errand.

Pontifex III
Sequel to one of best indie puzzle games ever made


MULTIPLATFORM


Mass Effect 3

XCOM

Bulletstorm
SF FPS from People Can Fly, makers of Painkiller.

Crysis 2

RAGE
New shooter from id Software

Dragon Age II
Sequel to a great RPG from Bioware that scored 9.2 at IGN.

Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Test Driver Unlimited 2
Sequel to a racing game that scored 8.0 at IGN.

Duke Nukem Forever
It looks like it will really happen by Gearbox?s (developers of Borderlands) hands.

Brink
FPS from Splash Damage, makers of Quake Wars (8.5 from IGN)

Beyond Good and Evil 2

Deus Ex 3

Portal 2

American McGee?s Alice II
The first one got 9.4 from IGN

Max Payne 3
Max Payne got 9.3 from IGN, while it?s sequel scored 9.4

Dead Space 2
The first one got from IGN

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine PC
Action game from Relic.

Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
Fantasy RPG from Big Huge Games (makers of Rise of Nations) and lead designer of Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.

Trine 2
Sequel to 8.2 platformer.

Rock of Ages
A head-to-head, real-time tower defense game in which two players alternate between defending and attacking. When attacking you control a big-huge boulder that?s rolling towards your opponent?s gates. If you?re the one on the defense your attempt to slow and divert your boulder by placing towers, fans and units in boulder?s path. It?s being made by ACE Team, makers of Zeno Clash (which got 8.4 from IGN).

Tomb Raider
Reboot of a classic franchise.

Assassin?s Creed: Brotherhood
Console version scored 8.0 at IGN.

Columbus 4
Episodic adventure series from Animation Arts, makers of Lost Horizon and Secret Files series.

Jurassic Park: the Game
Episodic action-adventure from Telltale Games (makers of Sam and Max Episodes, Back to the Future and Tales of Monkey Island).

Defenders of Ardania
Tower defense set in Majesty series world.

Hamilton?s Great Adventure
A co-op puzzle game from makers of Lead and Gold (7.0 at IGN).

Dust
Spiritual successor to Populour created by Eric Chahi, the designer who made Another World (known as Out of this World in USA).

Red Faction: Armageddon
The previous entry in this franchise (Red Faction: Guerrilla) scored 8.0 at IGN.

Dungeon Siege III
THird entry in the popular hack and slash franchise. This time it?s being developed by Obsidian Entertainment, known for creating RPGs like Knights of the Old Republic 2 or Neverwinter Nights 2.

Operation Flashpoint: Red River

Orion: Prelude
Commercial follow up to a popular mod.

Top Spin 4
New entry in the best tennis series of all time.

Section 8: Prejudice

Bastion
Inie action RPG from ex-EALA team members.

Captain Morgane
Semi sequel to adventure game So Blonde, which scored 8.0 from Adventuregamers.

The Haunted: Hell?s Reach
Multiplayer horror action game that?s a commercial follow-up to a mod that won Make Something Unreal competition.

Kings and Castles
Fantasy RTS from Gas Powered Games, makers of Supreme Commander series (on IGN first one scored 8.9, while the sequel 8.4 got).

The First Templar
Co-op centric action-adventure from Haemimont Games, makers of games like Tropico 3 (8.4 from IGN) or Celtic Kings: Rage of War (8.2 on the same site) and The Punic Wars: A Clash of Two Empires (8.0 from IGN).

Vessel
Indie platformer which gameplay based on manipulating fluids.

Dungeon Hero
From Firefly studios (makers of great Stronghold series and medicore Stronghold: Legends and CivCity, we?ll see how they do here)

Agency
Spy-themed action MMO from SOE

The Secret World
A MMO from makers of Age of Conan and Longest Journey franchise

Batman: Arkham Asylum 2
Sequel to action-adventure game that scored 9.3 on IGN

Spec Ops: The Line

Metal Gear Solid: Rising

Tom Clancy?s Ghost Recon: Future Soldier

Driver: San Francisco

Mechwarrior
The classic series returns.

Solaris Assault Tech
Multiplayer game set in BattleTech universe from people who for the last 12 years modded previous MechWarrior games as MekTek group.

Need For Speed: Shift 2
Sequel to a racer that scored 9.0 from IGN.

The Cursed Crusade
Action game from ATLUS

Gatling Gears

Alien Breed 3: Descent

A Vampyre Story: Year One
Episodic prequel to humoristic adventure game series.

Death to Spies 3
Stealth action game heavily inspired by Hitman and set in Cold War era.The first one scored 8.0 at IGN.

Tropico 4
Another entry in this great city building series. Tropico 3 scored 8.4 from IGN

F.E.A.R. 3
First one scored 9.2 at IGN, while the second got 8.2 on the same site.

Fable 3

DC Universe Online
Superhero MMO from Sony Online Entertainment (Everquest 1-2, Planetside, Star Wars Galaxies)

Battlefield 1943
Downloadable-only MP game in vein of original Battlefield 1942.

Burn Zombie Burn
Indie action game. PlayStation 3 version scored 8.3 at IGN

Sky Gods
A tactical shooter from BlackfootStudios(made by Red Storm veterans), bassicaly this is a smaller game that will provide funding for Ground Branch as well as be a testing ground for the tech and gameplay ideas,

A New Beginning

Postal 3

Project Owlboy
Retro platformer

The Testament of Sherlock Holmes

Skulls of the Shogun
Turn based strategy game from ex-EALA developers.

Off-Road Drive
Off road racing simulator.

Captized
Baitiful indie retro platformer.

Toki Arcade
High res remake of the classic arcade game

Source - "Reasons to be a PC Gamer" [http://www.pcgamingfan.com/]


As for the Hardware debate. In no way shape and form can your phone, your laptop or your console provide the same high fidelity experience that a modern desktop can.

Desktops have better visuals, audio and overall performance. Heck the basic gaming desktop of today is easily a generation ahead of the console. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.247185-Crytek-PCs-Are-a-Generation-Ahead-of-Consoles]

If graphics, sound and data storage did not matter, we would all still be playing Space Invaders.


Edit: Corrected generation gap and provided a link to the article. My old memory is not as good as it used to be.
Gah!
Hazah! this to its fullest extent! (I even got shogun 2 yesterday :D) This better explains my previous rant in a non banning mannor, i like it
Diablo 3 may not be on that list ultimately: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/711050/blizzard-teases-diablo-3-on-consoles-pc-gamers-around-the-world-mourn/
Really???? NOOOOOOO!!!! It has always been a PC only game though... Ohwell, there are many other great titles in that list
If I am looking at my games I see a perfectly working Playstation version of Diablo und a perfectly working Mac version of Diablo 2. Yes Diablo was always PC exclusive *sarcasm* Got that out of my system. Just hate it when people make uneducated claims.

On topic: Bob mentions computer gaming dying because shooter and adventure games have gone to consoles and the only games you need a PC for are web-games like World of Warcraft or Zynga games and simulators, god-games and on a brief note starcraft.
First of all World of Warcraft is serious gaming as are Zynga-games. Games are not serious. Spank the monkey is as good a waste of time as playing Call of Duty or Street Fighter.
Second of all Bob acts as if PC gamers are hateful of Nintendo for being so much better off with Super Mario Bros. 3 and The Legend of Zelda (we all know you are a fanboy (the mean meaning of fanboy) to a fault Bob) than PC gamers with their games because we did not have any fun playing adventure games for example. Yes you had to be rich back in the days so you could play the games. I could say this part of the video is a cryout of Bob who wants to deny his past self not being fortunate enough to afford a gaming PC. Getting sidetracked now, just using same tactic on Bob himself.
Third of all going back to point one, yes we still have strategy games, simulator games, Massive Multiplayer Online games and these are viable markets. And the PC-based RPG (i.e. Wizardry, Might and Magic, Forgotten Realms´titles, The Dark Eye´s titles, Bioware´s Dragon Age Origins) is still best played on a PC.
Last of all is Bob you do not know what you are talking about. Just to answer your question.
It was on PS1, but when i think of diablo, i think of PC. And PS1 was hardly supported by delevopers (Unless you count leter releases of the game) where as PC had patches available. With new systems, developers have the ability to avert their attention to consoles.

And with your statement of "perfectly working Mac version of Diablo 2" Is a mac not a PC? from my perspective, a PC includes Mac and Windows.

So how are my claims uneducated? From my perspective, it is a PC only game and it is how it should stay
 

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I can't hardly wait to see many of you posting here on the forums 25 years from now when Adam Sessler is hosting a "Classic PC" show in the style of how Classic and vintage car shows are done today. Many young kids will spare a glance as you talk about all the awesome specs of your vintage system and say "oh cool" and then go back to pwn'n noobs on the global eather with their iOmniHypercube courtesy of Cyber-Steve Jobs. The market will threaten to heat up however when Robo-Gates travels back in time 5 years to launch a version of Windows Quantum that doesn't crash. This will end badly when his time-portal OS crashes and the blue screen of death literally cuts him in half.

Somebody please draw me a picture of that.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
This whole response covers most of my own views. But I'd like to further point out something else, which I think Moviebob tried to talk about, but didn't realise what he was saying...
Woodsey said:
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This video is a little bizarre. You're right, why would you keep all those things at a hub in your house, when you could buy 300 different appliances that all only do a few functions of it? Oh, wait...

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This is exactly right.

Moviebob: "Crunching numbers on your tablet, while you're typing up a report on your notebook, then getting in some game-time on the console, while sending emails from the hand-held." (~ 4:52 to 5:03 of this video)
Seriously, imagine that for a second. One guy, doing 4 different things on 4 different devices at the same time (impressive though that might be), with another guy sitting next to him on his PC comfortably able to do all those things at the same time, and more.
(Yes, the guy on the PC can easily game and do other stuff. Countless times I've seen my brother playing a game on one monitor, then doing stuff on the other monitor whenever he's respawning or whatever else would cause some gaming down-time.)

Some of your points are true Moviebob, I'll admit. But once again I've got to point to The_root_of_all_evil's post for better points.