The BNP are misunderstood...

[Faps]

Me dad used to go to the NF (National Front, extremist version of BNP) and supports the BNP now, , and I don't really believe in there ways but I can see why people are starting to support them, becuase they are fed up with foreigners stealing jobs and parliamentary partyies such as Labour and Conservative doing bugger all about it, like bus drivers being made redundent for some polish person who will work for a lower wage, for me it's UKIP becuase I hate the EU, they just let anyone come in as they please, like rapists, murderers and thieves becuase their country is part of the EU, it makes Britain feel like the dumping ground of Europe. Anyway back to subject, the BNP and NF are racist and always will be, but Britain is a white nation and whites should be the majority of the population but you need some people of different ethical backgrounds otherwise there would be no charcater in the country.

Ok, so a bus company chooses to employ a Polish person for less rather than a British person. I don't know if this happens or not but lets assume that it does. Do you know why the bus company is going to employ a Polish person who works for less? Because it means their profits will go up and that will keep the board and shareholders happy who I'm willing to bet are 99% white British people.

It's not the Polish person's fault that the bus company hires him, it's the bus company who wants to make more money.

You should probably do some research into just how the EU benefits the UK before you decide to hate it and believe everything you read about it the tabloids.

 

[FolkLikePanda]

Wasn't saying it like UKIP believe the same things as BNP (they do in some places but not in the extreme ones), I meant that in Romania there was a rapist released from prison and he came over here no questions asked because of Romania being in the EU.

 

[Azraellod]

"Patriotism is the Virtue of the vicious" Oscar Wilde

actually, that's a nice way of putting it, and one of the reasons i consider it invalid.

the other main reason is that patriotism is often based on past decisions and foolish pride. if people would only think things through rather then just basing it on the past of a country, which i have difficulty seeing as a thing. i see it simply as a way to keep track of where you are and what rules apply where.

 

[KeyMaster45]

Their leader said Hitler's book was his Bible, I think no further evidence is needed for where they really want to take Britain, if anyone ever let them.

At the risk of sounding like that ignorant war loving yank you brits stereotype us as; I would be very interested to watch a war between nazi Britain and the rest of the world unfold; after all no invading army has set foot on your turf for what, a few centuries? I think the beach landing involved would rival that of Normandy.

This does bring up an interesting and serious topic to my mind; the disturbing nature of how little I know about the political going-ons outside of the U.S. Not to say we don't get the occasional report about a fight breaking out in the chinese senate, but reports like that usually have something to do with the U.S.

 

[FolkLikePanda]

Me dad used to go to the NF (National Front, extremist version of BNP) and supports the BNP now, , and I don't really believe in there ways but I can see why people are starting to support them, becuase they are fed up with foreigners stealing jobs and parliamentary partyies such as Labour and Conservative doing bugger all about it, like bus drivers being made redundent for some polish person who will work for a lower wage, for me it's UKIP becuase I hate the EU, they just let anyone come in as they please, like rapists, murderers and thieves becuase their country is part of the EU, it makes Britain feel like the dumping ground of Europe. Anyway back to subject, the BNP and NF are racist and always will be, but Britain is a white nation and whites should be the majority of the population but you need some people of different ethical backgrounds otherwise there would be no charcater in the country.

Ok, so a bus company chooses to employ a Polish person for less rather than a British person. I don't know if this happens or not but lets assume that it does. Do you know why the bus company is going to employ a Polish person who works for less? Because it means their profits will go up and that will keep the board and shareholders happy who I'm willing to bet are 99% white British people.

It's not the Polish person's fault that the bus company hires him, it's the bus company who wants to make more money.

You should probably do some research into just how the EU benefits the UK before you decide to hate it and believe everything you read about it the tabloids.

I believe that British jobs should be given to British people first, is the principal not the money, the bus company is being a money grabbing company, it doesn't care who it employs, and I hate the EU because it lets ANYONE who's part of the EU come into the country.

 

[Faps]

Wasn't saying it like UKIP believe the same things as BNP (they do in some places but not in the extreme ones), I meant that in Romania there was a rapist released from prison and he came over here no questions asked because of Romania being in the EU.

He had served his time in prison so why wouldn't he be allowed to move freely within the EU?

 

[internutt]

I do not love or hate the BNP. What worries me is not that the party exists, that is legal. What worries me is the increasing amount of support they are receiving.

Fair enough I am bias here. I'm just going by what BBC news tells me about them, I've honestly not paid any attention to what the party themselves say they are about.

 

[FolkLikePanda]

Wasn't saying it like UKIP believe the same things as BNP (they do in some places but not in the extreme ones), I meant that in Romania there was a rapist released from prison and he came over here no questions asked because of Romania being in the EU.

He had served his time in prison so why wouldn't he be allowed to move freely within the EU?

Because he's a rapist, who's to say he won't rape again, it's like a paedophile, a paedophile can live right next door to someone with a kid, he's still a paedo though. Personally I think people should be hung if they rape, call me barbaric, but they've ruined that victims life, that woman or man has to live the rest of their life in slight shock and fear because they were sexually assaulted. He shouldn't be allowed to go to where he wants, he's and evil, dirty bastard.

 

[Faps]

Me dad used to go to the NF (National Front, extremist version of BNP) and supports the BNP now, , and I don't really believe in there ways but I can see why people are starting to support them, becuase they are fed up with foreigners stealing jobs and parliamentary partyies such as Labour and Conservative doing bugger all about it, like bus drivers being made redundent for some polish person who will work for a lower wage, for me it's UKIP becuase I hate the EU, they just let anyone come in as they please, like rapists, murderers and thieves becuase their country is part of the EU, it makes Britain feel like the dumping ground of Europe. Anyway back to subject, the BNP and NF are racist and always will be, but Britain is a white nation and whites should be the majority of the population but you need some people of different ethical backgrounds otherwise there would be no charcater in the country.

Ok, so a bus company chooses to employ a Polish person for less rather than a British person. I don't know if this happens or not but lets assume that it does. Do you know why the bus company is going to employ a Polish person who works for less? Because it means their profits will go up and that will keep the board and shareholders happy who I'm willing to bet are 99% white British people.

It's not the Polish person's fault that the bus company hires him, it's the bus company who wants to make more money.

You should probably do some research into just how the EU benefits the UK before you decide to hate it and believe everything you read about it the tabloids.

I believe that British jobs should be given to British people first, is the principal not the money, the bus company is being a money grabbing company, it doesn't care who it employs, and I hate the EU because it lets ANYONE who's part of the EU come into the country.

Indeed but don't you see that it's not the immigrants fault that he is being employed, it's the company that chooses to employ him. Don't be angry at the immigrant, he's done nothing but come to the UK for a better life for himself and family. He's got a job and contributing, it's not his fault that the bus company chose to employ him.

 

[Faps]

Wasn't saying it like UKIP believe the same things as BNP (they do in some places but not in the extreme ones), I meant that in Romania there was a rapist released from prison and he came over here no questions asked because of Romania being in the EU.

He had served his time in prison so why wouldn't he be allowed to move freely within the EU?

Because he's a rapist, who's to say he won't rape again, it's like a paedophile, a paedophile can live right next door to someone with a kid, he's still a paedo though. Personally I think people should be hung if they rape, call me barbaric, but they've ruined that victims life, that woman or man has to live the rest of their life in slight shock and fear because they were sexually assaulted. He shouldn't be allowed to go to where he wants, he's and evil, dirty bastard.

I'm not sure what the re-offence of rapists is but it's not our place to judge a person based on his past actions. If he's paid his debt to society then he should be as free as you or me.

 

[GaM Pancho]

To those of you who are unaware of the BNP. Check this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiTdcWMlF4k

And I hate the BNP, I know a few supporters and they're as thick as anything. Really don't understand the reprecussions that would happen if they somehow ever came into power.

 

[Zombie_Fish]

Wasn't saying it like UKIP believe the same things as BNP (they do in some places but not in the extreme ones), I meant that in Romania there was a rapist released from prison and he came over here no questions asked because of Romania being in the EU.

He had served his time in prison so why wouldn't he be allowed to move freely within the EU?

Because he's a rapist, who's to say he won't rape again, it's like a paedophile, a paedophile can live right next door to someone with a kid, he's still a paedo though. Personally I think people should be hung if they rape, call me barbaric, but they've ruined that victims life, that woman or man has to live the rest of their life in slight shock and fear because they were sexually assaulted. He shouldn't be allowed to go to where he wants, he's and evil, dirty bastard.

I'm not sure what the re-offence of rapists is but it's not our place to judge a person based on his past actions. If he's paid his debt to society then he should be as free as you or me.

Judging them on their past actions has actually been shown statistically to make them more likely to offend. If a convicted rapist is released from prison, he needs to be put on a register and everyone in the neighbourhood actually needs to be informed of his residence there. It puts a lot of pressure on the criminal and makes them more likely to reoffend -- sometimes just to be back in the security of prison.

As for my opinion on the BNP, already said on this thread. Many times before. EDIT: But I'll say it anyway, the literal translation for NAZI is Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party, so they're literally the German equivalent of the BNP. That is all.

 

[Agema]

What the BNP say about themselves has relatively little to do with what they really are.

Just Wiki the BNP, find out who their leading figures are. Google them, and you'll find one and all they've a long history of hardcore racism. However, that doesn't win votes, so nowadays they peddle a cleverly worked out line that avoids overt racism. They've also moved aggressively into the territory abandoned by the Labour party, and make claims to represent the working class, who otherwise lack good representation by a major party.

They are a completely abhorrent party, but they're also quite good at pretending to people that they aren't.

 

[Jurassic Rob]

They are the worst type of scum. Praying on those who cannot defend themselves, and apparently you cannot describe the leader of the BNP until after the watershed. Mainly because a quick description would be: he's a ****!

 

[Remleiz]

Im not condoning the BNP in anyway, but i need to say this:

Freedom of speech works both ways, if people are allowed to have gay/womens/ethnic/etc rights and have the freedom to express their views, then people should be allowed to speak against it if that is how they feel.

 

[Nevyrmoore]

Well I haven't looked up much on the BNP, but supposedly the BNP is not a whites-only group but perhaps a better assessment would be an English only group, not in a sense that pertains to race (as apparently their are minorities in the group), but rather in a sense that the party looks out for the concerns and conditions of the UK first, everyone else second.

Not quite. They have recently been in a spot of bother because membership is (or was) limited to "'Indigenous Caucasian' and defined 'ethnic groups' emanating from that race". There is going to be a debate within the party as to if they should fight against law so they can prevent non-whites from joining, or if they should adapt and let non-whites in. However, Nicky boy has gone on record as saying, "I have no doubt that it is possible to redraft our constitution so as to ensure we comply with the new law while at the same time holding true to our core principles and most important of all to our purpose ? to secure a future for the true children of our islands."

So, essentially, they're still trying to find a way to discriminate against those who are not "true British (feh!)"

 

[AceDiamond]

Im not condoning the BNP in anyway, but i need to say this:

Freedom of speech works both ways, if people are allowed to have gay/womens/ethnic/etc rights and have the freedom to express their views, then people should be allowed to speak against it if they feel that is how they feel.

Except for the fact that you cannot slander, and I'm pretty sure blaming shit on minorities with no real proof is slander.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

The BNP is an enemy of everyone who believes in peace, freedom, and equality. They're modern-day Nazis of Britain.

 

[Firenz]

People need to understand that the BNP itself is merely a Nationalist political party (hence the name) and becasue of the right-wing nature of Nationalism it attracts or the other people from that political landscape to come join it (especially as it is the only properly rightwing politcal party in Britain).

Look at the SNP (Scottish National Party) they have a Nationalist agenda but as it has clearly defined aims of independence and, as far as I can tell, the rest of it's policies are just conservative rather than right wing, it is nit such a breeding ground for the dangerously far right.