The Day the Gaming Industry Died: Impressions from E3 2010 :(
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Actually I still defend the motion controllers for the future promises they might keep.
In fact nothing bad happened until now and we have no reason to fear that all consoles will become flooded with shovelware like the Wii. 360 and PS3 are major gaming consoles which get the additional extra of motion controls whereas the Wii's entire selling point is nothing but wiggling. Besides "real" developers have not targeted the new motion controllers (as much as I regret it personally) and since no one will force you to buy Kinect/Move and / or play its games there is no reason to be afraid.
It appears to me that many "hardcore" gamers become defensive because their beloved hobby starts to transform in something they do not know and they want to stick to the familiar environment.
In fact nothing bad happened until now and we have no reason to fear that all consoles will become flooded with shovelware like the Wii. 360 and PS3 are major gaming consoles which get the additional extra of motion controls whereas the Wii's entire selling point is nothing but wiggling. Besides "real" developers have not targeted the new motion controllers (as much as I regret it personally) and since no one will force you to buy Kinect/Move and / or play its games there is no reason to be afraid.
It appears to me that many "hardcore" gamers become defensive because their beloved hobby starts to transform in something they do not know and they want to stick to the familiar environment.
Pretty much this.edthehyena said:
I'm still waiting for a proper game, like another Batman: Arkham, though I might get the two GTA IV expasion packs.
Well that game surely won't be released in Australia,because it'd have more violence then all the wars combined.FaceFaceFace said:
And yes I did, but I have numbers on the end of my name so the name doesn't change as well, and I'm too lazy to go to a name rater
/Pokenerd
Well, I don't think he was onto anything when he was predicting that the games industry is in for another big crash, but from what he describes it seems like Microsoft has really fucked this one up. Kinect (The Peripheral Formerly Known As Natal) is going to be Microsoft's very own Virtual Boy, bringing NOTHING to the table worth getting and being an embarassing flop. So will Playstation Move, both for one very simple reason: what market are they targetting with these peripherals? The exact same market who would have already bought a Wii years ago. And a Wii is BUILT around motion control, the Wiimote is the default packaged controller, while Kinect and Move are expensive peripheral add-ons that will be useless or even completely unusable for the REST of the games being released on the console (I'd like to see you try to use Kinect to play Halo: Reach).
Casual gamers are not going to buy an Xbox 360 or PS3 to use Kinect or Move. If they were interested in those kinds of games, they'd already have bought a Wii (which has the added advantage of being much cheaper). And anyone who's convinced that the new peripherals will somehow be "better" than the Wii is frankly deluding themselves- while Microsoft seems to think the fact that Kinect is a controller-less controller is a selling point, how deep can you make a game when you have NO buttons? Would you be able to play, say, Super Mario Galaxy with Kinect? Not in a thousand years. From what I've seen, Move also looks far less versatile than the Wiimote and again it gets hit by the fact that it's less effective than a standard PS3 pad for playing normal games. (Truth be told, I myself tend to avoid using the Wiimote to play any Wii game which doesn't use motion control, like Smash Bros Brawl).
But I still think that Cracked article is exaggerating the effect this is going to have on the video game industry as a whole.
Casual gamers are not going to buy an Xbox 360 or PS3 to use Kinect or Move. If they were interested in those kinds of games, they'd already have bought a Wii (which has the added advantage of being much cheaper). And anyone who's convinced that the new peripherals will somehow be "better" than the Wii is frankly deluding themselves- while Microsoft seems to think the fact that Kinect is a controller-less controller is a selling point, how deep can you make a game when you have NO buttons? Would you be able to play, say, Super Mario Galaxy with Kinect? Not in a thousand years. From what I've seen, Move also looks far less versatile than the Wiimote and again it gets hit by the fact that it's less effective than a standard PS3 pad for playing normal games. (Truth be told, I myself tend to avoid using the Wiimote to play any Wii game which doesn't use motion control, like Smash Bros Brawl).
But I still think that Cracked article is exaggerating the effect this is going to have on the video game industry as a whole.
I will say the same thing I always say, "Vote with your wallet, the good survives, the bad goes bankrupt" economic evolution. It has happened multiple times in every other industry why is it suddenly the end of the world when it happens in games?
BUT I DON'T WANT A MOTION SENSOR. I got a 360 instead of a wii because i prefer pressing buttons over waving my arms around like a jack ass. And now everybody is going to be making games that use the technology and nothing good will ever be made again. well it was nice knowing you video games. good to know that I have now officially misspent my youth
i agree with you
i agree with you wholeheartedly sir. I do not expect them to do well because if people want gimmiky motion controls and bullshit shovelware, they would buy a Wii!!! Most gamers that are willing to shell out the extra money for a ps3 or 360 are most likely not casual gamers because if they were casual, they wouldn't be spending the extra money. Let nintendo have their little kiddie nursery playtime fun bullshit for casuals...as for me, leave my damn 360 and ps3 alone, I want a video game console, not a goddamn over glorified exercise machine. Seariously, microsoft and their kinect bullshit can just gtfo, and as far as playstation move goes, i can think of a spot located somewhere in the Sony CEO's nether regions that seems to be quite a good fit for such an object.edthehyena said:
It's really only a matter of time until the bottom falls out (again) on the industry. And Nintendo won't be around to save it like they did back in the mid-'80s. On one hand, I want it to happen, just so it can purify the industry. But on the other, I really don't want it to happen because then there's no games to play. Not only that, but I'm an aspiring game designer, so if the industry explodes, then I'm shit outta luck.
As much as I would like to just say the author is a doomsday guy and a moron. I can't, because his points are valid, for better or for worse the Big Three run the console industry. Because without them, no third party dev can make a game beside PC. And David Wong has written a lot of quality articles with a lot of spot on points. So there goes my point about the author being a hack. Shit
I find it VERY scary that you post this on the day the Escapist does the apocalypse theme... Very, VERY scary!!
If anyone needs to find me, I'll be at the apartment boarding up all the windows and doors!
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I think time will tell how successful this whole mess lumps to. While it seems like no one here is interested in Project Natal (besides a few exceptions of course.) Perhaps we will all luck out and this whole thing will blow over by the lack of sales they originally thought they'd make.
They need to make a big deal over these projects, because at this point in time I think the majority of us are smart enough to see where this is going. It's a long stretch, but I'm hoping that the core gamers will remain smart and not put their money into these products and that the casual gamers will avoid them either by being true to Nintendo or will remain unwilling to spend that much money on a new system + the peripherals.
If anyone needs to find me, I'll be at the apartment boarding up all the windows and doors!
Edit:
I think time will tell how successful this whole mess lumps to. While it seems like no one here is interested in Project Natal (besides a few exceptions of course.) Perhaps we will all luck out and this whole thing will blow over by the lack of sales they originally thought they'd make.
They need to make a big deal over these projects, because at this point in time I think the majority of us are smart enough to see where this is going. It's a long stretch, but I'm hoping that the core gamers will remain smart and not put their money into these products and that the casual gamers will avoid them either by being true to Nintendo or will remain unwilling to spend that much money on a new system + the peripherals.