Those people are loonies. I want to beat these people with bats.Pariah87 said:
Those people are loonies. I want to beat these people with bats.Pariah87 said:
And explain that my friend got brainwashed at Christian camp? We wouldn't be taken seriously.zHellas said:Call the police.RadioactiveTurtle said:Religiolous-Snip
was she alot happier? I know I kinda sound like a dick but the only other thing I can think of is get her alone sit her down and talk to her and explain to her what you have explained here. like an intervention.RadioactiveTurtle said:She was happy before.Prof.Wood said:Wow...
If it makes her happy you shouldn't do anything (unless she is in your face with her religion)
I just want to know how camps can do this (not morally just how can this be done)what point that they made got to her.
Happiest girl I've ever met. Now she is cold, emptier. So far, an intervention of sorts seems like the best idea.Prof.Wood said:was she alot happier? I know I kinda sound like a dick but the only other thing I can think of is get her alone sit her down and talk to her and explain to her what you have explained here. like an intervention.RadioactiveTurtle said:She was happy before.Prof.Wood said:Wow...
If it makes her happy you shouldn't do anything (unless she is in your face with her religion)
I just want to know how camps can do this (not morally just how can this be done)what point that they made got to her.
You have good evidence: Her personality changed drastically over a short period of time. Either something big happened then, or she was brainwashed.RadioactiveTurtle said:And explain that my friend got brainwashed at Christian camp? We wouldn't be taken seriously.zHellas said:Call the police.RadioactiveTurtle said:Religiolous-Snip
It does seem drastic, but I'll keep it in mind.zHellas said:You have good evidence: Her personality changed drastically over a short period of time. Either something big happened then, or she was brainwashed.RadioactiveTurtle said:And explain that my friend got brainwashed at Christian camp? We wouldn't be taken seriously.zHellas said:Call the police.RadioactiveTurtle said:Religiolous-Snip
Harry Potter?Pariah87 said:Get a group of people together for any amount of time and with the right manipulation you can turn anyone to pretty much anything.
I'm not sure how to best answer you without making negative comments about certain aspects of the Christian community but it sounds an awful lot like brainwashing. I'm sure you can find the documentaries online where they visit these camps and I was truely sickened. My personal feelings for Christianity aside, just the methods employed shocked me and I couldn't believe anyone could target children in such a manner.
Ultimately, if she is happy, or she believes she is happy then there is little you can do to change that. If anything, trying to get in the way will simply make her cut ties with you. You or your friends cannot reverse the conditioning which occured during that week. That may sound harsh but incredibly clever conditioning is exactly what it is.
I should point out this doesn't happen will all christians, just certain groups and it sounds like that is the kind of place she went to.
If you think you can undo the kind of shit seen above, then good luck to you.
Ok if her parents made her go don't talk to them about it, its likely that they will try to get her to stop talking to you, just ask her if she wants to talk say that you feel that you haven't connected in a while.RadioactiveTurtle said:Happiest girl I've ever met. Now she is cold, emptier. So far, an intervention of sorts seems like the best idea.Prof.Wood said:was she alot happier? I know I kinda sound like a dick but the only other thing I can think of is get her alone sit her down and talk to her and explain to her what you have explained here. like an intervention.RadioactiveTurtle said:She was happy before.Prof.Wood said:Wow...
If it makes her happy you shouldn't do anything (unless she is in your face with her religion)
I just want to know how camps can do this (not morally just how can this be done)what point that they made got to her.
Now... if she went to a catholic prayer/bible camp thing, then theres your answer. ( i am a christian) I was raised catholic and was so damn sick of the 2 hour long masses, the monotone preacher, and the gut-wrenchingly stupidity of the "lessons" they told us. The thing that pissed me (and my dad) off to no end was that they have no proof, that they showed no evidence of their claims being sound (dont get ahead of me) I joined a different church and so far; they have given me more reason to believe in god than catholics.RadioactiveTurtle said:Le snip
These people are absolute idiots. The worst part had to be where the woman is ranting about Harry Potter.Pariah87 said:
If you think you can undo the kind of shit seen above, then good luck to you.
Thats scary.Pariah87 said:
good luckRadioactiveTurtle said:OP here:
We have discussed that an 'intervention' of sorts is the best idea, so we are all going to talk to her as soon as possible. Thank you for all of the suggestions so far, it has been helpful outside opinion. I will keep everyone here updated on what is happening.
Thank you, everyone.
Okay, I go to a Catholic school and sometimes actually attend mass and that is not accurate.Ildecia said:Now... if she went to a catholic prayer/bible camp thing, then theres your answer. ( i am a christian) I was raised catholic and was so damn sick of the 2 hour long masses, the monotone preacher, and the gut-wrenchingly stupidity of the "lessons" they told us. The thing that pissed me (and my dad) off to no end was that they have no proof, that they showed no evidence of their claims being sound (dont get ahead of me) I joined a different church and so far; they have given me more reason to believe in god than catholics.RadioactiveTurtle said:Le snip
Catholics: God is all-mighty and all powerful cause we say so. now pray a lot and always donate to the church or burn in hell forever.
My new church (Presbyterians): God is among us, he is all mighty, and thats why i love life. I see him in the simple pleasures of life have a great week.
done. simple. no force-feeding of bullshit.
thats prolly why she was completly brainwashed.
That video is fucking scary.Pariah87 said:Get a group of people together for any amount of time and with the right manipulation you can turn anyone to pretty much anything.
I'm not sure how to best answer you without making negative comments about certain aspects of the Christian community but it sounds an awful lot like brainwashing. I'm sure you can find the documentaries online where they visit these camps and I was truely sickened. My personal feelings for Christianity aside, just the methods employed shocked me and I couldn't believe anyone could target children in such a manner.
Ultimately, if she is happy, or she believes she is happy then there is little you can do to change that. If anything, trying to get in the way will simply make her cut ties with you. You or your friends cannot reverse the conditioning which occured during that week. That may sound harsh but incredibly clever conditioning is exactly what it is.
I should point out this doesn't happen will all christians, just certain groups and it sounds like that is the kind of place she went to.
If you think you can undo the kind of shit seen above, then good luck to you.
Exactly. I hope that she is serious about being a Christian.gamerguy473 said:Becoming a religious person is a huge step and a huge lifestyle change. And it is typically something that you don't get this serious about in a week. People who dive into religion and are super serious this early into it generally won't stick with it this seriously for more than a month or two. I'm a Christian, and I have no problem admitting that. But getting to the point that I am now as far as how seriously I take it wasn't easy. It takes willpower and a true belief in God. Not a couple things you learned at a week camp.