The escapist, I need your help.
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most likely harry potter would have been treated as a prophet of god. In the old testament prophets do some messed up stuff like summon bears.Delock said:
http://www.cracked.com/article_15699_the-9-most-badass-bible-verses.html
Edit: exemple taken slightly out of context
You'll need to have your friend kidnapped and brainwashed back to her natural state of mind.
While the people you've hired are in the process of doing that, you'll need to hunt down and kill every last member of that camp, including her family, so they don't try to tear open fresh wounds. (Or pay someone else to, but I somehow don't see someone who has money hanging out with the daughter of cultists.)
Sad to say, but that's literally all you can do, and I doubt that she's truly special enough to you to risk that sort of prison time for. So my condolances on the loss of your friend.
While the people you've hired are in the process of doing that, you'll need to hunt down and kill every last member of that camp, including her family, so they don't try to tear open fresh wounds. (Or pay someone else to, but I somehow don't see someone who has money hanging out with the daughter of cultists.)
Sad to say, but that's literally all you can do, and I doubt that she's truly special enough to you to risk that sort of prison time for. So my condolances on the loss of your friend.
maybe she felt insecure and sought religion to help her?
maybe she is scared of death and wants some religious assurance?
or she gave into pressure and she broke down mentally?
this coming from a former Christian
maybe she is scared of death and wants some religious assurance?
or she gave into pressure and she broke down mentally?
this coming from a former Christian
Well...Jeeze I don't know what to do.
(This whole damn site is atheist, personally it annoying)
My guess? They did something to REALLY messed her up, or she felt guilty over something that happened in the past.
(This whole damn site is atheist, personally it annoying)
My guess? They did something to REALLY messed her up, or she felt guilty over something that happened in the past.
tricky, but whilst i don't want this to sound momumentally arrogant (a prefix to a momumentally arrogant statement if ever there was one) but if she was sent to a camp it indicates she is fairly young (<16). and younger kids, particularly girls, change their views quickly and massively depending on who they have decided to idolise... so if she met some bloke at that camp who she fell head over heels for and he is a christian nut she won't appreciate you telling her everything she has just accepted is bullshit.
also religious views and indivualistic by nature, I for instance will never understand someone else's belief in a being they have never met and can't see. so it follows you will not understand what she believes. more importantly if you wade in and tell her its all bullshit she will also not appreciate that...
you clearly need to talk to her, see if they put something in her food etc, but be careful, its one thing to miss your friend who has gone missing, but you risk loosing her entirely if you are too harsh with your questions.
in the end mate you need to give her time and space, this is, yes, extrremely sudden and weird, but she has clearly accepted it, so she needs some recognition of that.
keep us posted though, good luck.
also religious views and indivualistic by nature, I for instance will never understand someone else's belief in a being they have never met and can't see. so it follows you will not understand what she believes. more importantly if you wade in and tell her its all bullshit she will also not appreciate that...
you clearly need to talk to her, see if they put something in her food etc, but be careful, its one thing to miss your friend who has gone missing, but you risk loosing her entirely if you are too harsh with your questions.
in the end mate you need to give her time and space, this is, yes, extrremely sudden and weird, but she has clearly accepted it, so she needs some recognition of that.
keep us posted though, good luck.
Call child services and complain of abuse. Such an extreme change of personality simply doesn't happen without extreme external pressure. I'd say that it's most likely brainwashing in this particular case. If you call child services and complain of the same, it is probable that they will assist you.RadioactiveTurtle said:
Although the efficacy of brainwashing techniques decreases with age. With that in mind, I would like to ask you her age. If she is indeed a minor, than brainwashing would likely be the case. If she is above 18, then you could make a good case that her parents forcing her to attend religion services is a violation of her First Amendment rights.
If all of the above fails or appears too extreme, then I would recommend a good old fashioned intervention. Call her up, arrange a normal friendly gathering and (once she arrives) confront her about what happened at the camp. If you can apply the right amount of pressure than she should open up to you and herself. Make sure that her parents do not accompany her and do not pick her up. If they were to come into contact they could well spoil everything. Offer in advance to give her a ride back. I must stress this point since I have had much firsthand experience with uncovering repressed memories and the process takes a time neither short nor predictable.
I can offer you no further advice other than that already said. I wish you the utmost luck in assisting her be who she truly wants to be.
Maybe she just had some kind of inner yearing? Yeah that or she's hiding something maybe it's good maybe it's bad
Wait, wait, wait. She wasn't much of an atheist if all it takes is a little concentrated Catholicism to turn her. Besides, even if 'god' or whatever is her now one true love, so what? Is she a bad person now? Is it affecting her life in a negative way?(besides the obvious basic anti religious reasons?
The Leader is good.
The Leader is great.
We surrender our will as of this date.
Gotta love The Simpsons. Regarding those who posted Jesus camp, I kinda want to adopt those kids so they could live in a better home.
The Leader is great.
We surrender our will as of this date.
Gotta love The Simpsons. Regarding those who posted Jesus camp, I kinda want to adopt those kids so they could live in a better home.
Hey, don't get me wrong, I'm a good christian, I help at church, do a lot of volunteer, and all the camps I've been to have always been fun but there is always that little "hidden message" that burrows into your mind and in some ways make you think different. My grandma used to tell me about this one church group she went to that literally locked up any non-believers until the stated their devotion to god. Religion sometimes has a bad way of conversion.
i'm christian myself but i don't like the look of this developement, i can understand if mabe something convinced your friend to accept God, but i don't think a year is even enough time for this drastic a change, unless your friend got a personal revelation from an angel or something there might be a problem. the best course of action in my mind would be to confront your friend about why this change has happened, like an intervention type of thing. As a religious person i don't think that this change is bad, to a certain degree, however a decision about the way you want to live your life is not something that can be decided at camp. (also, and i think all religions are guilty of this, a religious camp or even classes can occasionally have what i refer to as propaganta).
Edit: from reading other posts (not all of them) it looks like i'm the only current Christian on this site (i feel so alone).
Edit: from reading other posts (not all of them) it looks like i'm the only current Christian on this site (i feel so alone).
The Jesus kids marginalise and bully the non-believers.Irridium said:
The coucillors (whatever they're called) also single them out and call them out on their disbelief.
So they change what they believe to fit in.
Kind of like how the internet treats most religeous people.
