The Final Fantasy X HD remaster and why it makes sense.

[Unsung]

(Let me preface this by saying that FFX is one of my absolute favorite games ever and, in my opinion, the best installment in the series)

Did you hear the news? FFX is getting remastered!

Que Youtube rants like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng92_85S26M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv8t0lQlT3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJOwxQUtLeA

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I'm not in direct opposition to these opinions, but I think the whole thing has been overblown. Final Fantasy X was a brilliant game, a masterpiece--so was Final Fantasy VII. What I don't understand--and the rants touch on this a bit--is why SquareEnix doesn't just remake VII AND X instead of, I dunno, making sequals to FFXIII?

A few years ago they used a remastered intro of FFVII to show off the PS3's potential, and then pulled a bait and switch and said: "Well, actually, no, we're not doing this." I agree it's a swift kick in the junk if you're a fan, but you have to realize that Square WILL do it EVENTUALLY. Because obviously they'd make a profit, and I hear companies like profits.

But even if you're a fan of FFVII, please don't go out of your way to bash FFX just because it's not the game you wanted. While FFVII still retains a retro charm, FFX has aged very, very poorly, and deserves a remaster. It doesn't require nearly as much resources and time and effort, either.

Anyway, what do you guys think?

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

It aged poorly?

The only thing I could possibly think of in terms of bad aging are when characters speak without moving their mouths. Then again, I'm a massive fan of X, so I'm prone to bias there. I doubt I'll be getting the remaster though. I can't be bothered to try and beat Sinspawn Gui again.

 

[Unsung]

It aged poorly?

The only thing I could possibly think of in terms of bad aging are when characters speak without moving their mouths. Then again, I'm a massive fan of X, so I'm prone to bias there. I doubt I'll be getting the remaster though. I can't be bothered to try and beat Sinspawn Gui again.

Eh, the animations have aged very poorly. For instance, compare LA Noire to FFX and you'll see what I mean. But that's unfair. I guess my point is: it's not so pretty anymore.

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

Well, the villain does look like this:

Let's just say that gamers who haven't played it before won't be impressed.

SPOILER ALERTZ.
Nah, I keed.

It aged poorly?

The only thing I could possibly think of in terms of bad aging are when characters speak without moving their mouths. Then again, I'm a massive fan of X, so I'm prone to bias there. I doubt I'll be getting the remaster though. I can't be bothered to try and beat Sinspawn Gui again.

Eh, the animations have aged very poorly. For instance, compare LA Noire to FFX and you'll see what I mean. But that's unfair. I guess my point is: it's not so pretty anymore.

Ah, I see what you mean now. I do remember characters doing a 180 degree turn without moving their legs before walking in the opposite direction in cutscenes.

 

[Roganzar]

I really liked FF X. I really like the Final Fantasy series.
I won't be getting the remastered version unless it has serious graphical improvements not just cleaned up because I still own a copy of FF X and my PS2 still works.
My other issue is with Square Enix, I want them to finish a gods damned new game that they promised, like XIII Versus. Or maybe a new Final Fantasy that isn't trying to be a movie and resents the player for trying to play. Seriously, I actually fell asleep playing XIII.

 

[ratebbbbb]

I just wish that it will have an xbox360 port later.....

 

[Ubermetalhed]

Aged badly? I think it looks better than the shitfest that was XII.

It really doesn't need remastered, this is a waste of time just to scrape a bit more money from diehard FF fans.

 

[TheLastSamurai14]

Well, the villain does look like this:

Let's just say that gamers who haven't played it before won't be impressed.

Wait...did they darken Seymour's hair this time around? That's a little odd.

 

[Epona]

So it's too expensive to remake Final Fantasy VII but not Final Fantasy X?

 

[Griphphin]

Well, the villain does look like this:

Let's just say that gamers who haven't played it before won't be impressed.

And that isn't even the worst part!
That chest/belly hair...*shudders*

I'm indifferent about FFX getting remastered. I've got my old FFX PS2 copy sitting on my shelf waiting to get played again (as well as FFX-2 that I'm not playing until right after I beat FFX for frivolous personal continuity reasons), so if I get the urge, I can give that a spin. I personally liked a good few elements of FFX, and it would be annoying to see a resurgence of FFX hate by people take my nostalgia down a peg, but that's life on the internet, it wouldn't bother me too much.

 

[Staskala]

So it's too expensive to remake Final Fantasy VII but not Final Fantasy X?

They'd have to completely re-create all of VII - there's absolutely nothing they could salvage from the awful 1st generation PS1 engine.
Compared to that remastering a PS2 game is much less cost- and time-intensive.

OT: Just get the PC version with the unofficial graphic patch(es) if you want a decent looking VII. Not that hard, really.

 

[RagnaThePig]

I don't hate FFX, but it has kind of a silly plot and I find some of the characters are really annoying.

Then again, if they remade FFVII, the bad voice acting they would inevitably add would probably make me cringe.

 

[Candidus]

I didn't like FFX at all. It was the first voice-acted FF, and the voice acting was excruciating. Just like XIII and everything in between. American voice acting- and I've got nothing against the people or the accent in day to day life- just instantly ruins anything it's involved with for me.

I don't care what they remake. I never finished FFX and I haven't played any of the further sequels. What I care about is the option to use the original, japanese voice actors with subtitles. This would render the game playable again.

 

[Archemetis]

We of course all realise what is implied by a 'remaster' right?

We're all aware of how in the past people have 'remastered' stuff like the God of War franchise and everything made by Team Ico.

They're not re-doing it from the ground up(which is obvious), they're unlikely to be doing anything to the animations, character models, cut-scenes, dialogue, base mechanics or mini-games...

They're just giving it a coating of HD gloss...

The best we can hope for is that everything doesn't come out looking freshly oiled like it did in the GoW HD remasters...

I'm not hoping for a Final Fantasy VII re-make any time soon and not because I don't like the games, not at all, FFVII was my introduction to the series as a kid and I hold some fond memories of playing it.

But I don't want it re-made, at least not like how everyone else wants it, which is to say, 'with juiced up graphics in HD'.

I'd be more than happy to see a cartoony-looking FFVII re-make, maybe with the same graphical style as Kingdom Hearts.

I don't believe any old school game needs a HD polish or photo-realistic touch up to appeal to people even more then they already do now...

So does it make sense to remaster X?

Not to me it doesn't.

 

[Epona]

So it's too expensive to remake Final Fantasy VII but not Final Fantasy X?

They'd have to completely re-create all of VII - there's absolutely nothing they could salvage from the awful 1st generation PS1 engine.
Compared to that remastering a PS2 game is much less cost- and time-intensive.

OT: Just get the PC version with the unofficial graphic patch(es) if you want a decent looking VII. Not that hard, really.

I might look into that, will it run on Windows 7 64-Bit?

 

[KillKill]

I'd rather see VII remade as I've yet to play that (must be the only Final Fantasy fan who hasn't). And I always thought X was mediocre...

 

[WouldYouKindly]

So it's too expensive to remake Final Fantasy VII but not Final Fantasy X?

They'd have to completely re-create all of VII - there's absolutely nothing they could salvage from the awful 1st generation PS1 engine.
Compared to that remastering a PS2 game is much less cost- and time-intensive.

OT: Just get the PC version with the unofficial graphic patch(es) if you want a decent looking VII. Not that hard, really.

You forgot Dirge of Cerberus. They could update the engine from that game to make an effective remake of FF7. Couldn't they? I don't know enough to be certain but I've seen more ambitious mod operations by fans. They normally don't get finished, granted, but that's because they don't have enough time, money, or volunteers but getting started means these things are possible.

 

[KeonSaar]

Eh, X was good. It was by no means an embarrassment to the series(XIII and XII weren't either, btw, at least IMO.)

I will say that I was pissed when I first heard of the remake. I thought "Why not VII?!?", but as mentioned, X makes sense if Square-enix doesn't want to start from the ground up. Especially if they're doing this for some quick cash.

 

[Staskala]

They'd have to completely re-create all of VII - there's absolutely nothing they could salvage from the awful 1st generation PS1 engine. Compared to that remastering a PS2 game is much less cost- and time-intensive.

OT: Just get the PC version with the unofficial graphic patch(es) if you want a decent looking VII. Not that hard, really.

You forgot Dirge of Cerberus. They could update the engine from that game to make an effective remake of FF7. Couldn't they? I don't know enough to be certain but I've seen more ambitious mod operations by fans. They normally don't get finished, granted, but that's because they don't have enough time, money, or volunteers but getting started means these things are possible.

Oh, right. I tend to not remember the VII spin-offs. Yeah, I guess that would make things much easier, even if they still had to rebuild the entire world. I'm not exactly an expert so I don't know how things really compare in numbers.
I actually think that a VII remake is not so much a technical issue - given SE's resources even restarting from scratch is no problem - but that they hold it back as some sort of last resort if the company's ever really in a ditch. At least that's what I'd do if I had a surefire way to make a couple of millions.