The Greatest President of All Time

[Crash486]

POLK! It was POLK I say!

Mexico would like a word with you...

I live in Texas, I'M SURE THEY WOULD! Luckily my Texan training has prepared me in the case of such an event.

im pretty sure some of texas actually rightfully belonged to mexico until the US decieded that they wanted it and ignored borders set by mexico

...You do know there was a war right? Based mostly on the Mexican government oppressing Texan settlers? The US didn't "decide it wanted Texas," in fact after the war with Mexico, Texas was it's own country for several years, until the US finally agreed too annex it for political reasons.

Little history lesson for you.
Basically, Mexico needed American settlers to help it colonize Mexico, to help stabilize their colonies, and help fend off attacks from native americans (whom the mexican's stole Texas from btw). So, mostly in hope of looking for a new life or in hope to escape large debts, American settlers began to settle in Texas. In many cases, only the man of the house came to the colonies initially due to it being dangerous from indian raids. Once the colonies were settled and safe from indian raids, their families would join them.

Well the colonization in Texas was going well, in fact much better than Mexico had assumed it would. American colonists were starting to outnumber Mexican colonists by a good margin. At this point, President Santa Anna came in to power, (he was like a Mexican Hitler) and started oppressing the American Colonists. Requiring them to convert to Roman Catholocism, pay unfair taxes, and then the final straw closing off American colonization completely, separating many colonists from their families who had planned on moving in to Texas once the colonies were safe. As you can Imagine, this didn't sit right with the colonists so they started to revolt. The war officially started when the Mexican Government, realizing the Texans were beginning to revolt, attempted to retrieve a cannon it had given to one of the colonies to help fend off indian raids. The colonists basically said, if you want it come and take it. And thus the war began.[/history]

of all the first hand accounts ive read, the mexican-american war was unjust. polk took land that he had no right too and some other shit. i havent read the memoirs of the witnesses in so long

I think you need to brush up on your Texas history. The Mexican-American war broke out between America and Mexico when America attempted to annex the Republic of Texas, an independant nation as dictated by the terms of Mexico's surrender in the 1836 Texas Revolution by the Treaties of Velasco.

After President Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna's defeat (and capture) in the battle of San Jacinto, he signed the Treaties of Velesaco which recognized the Republic of Texas and an independant nation from Mexico. Mexico's government refused to recognize the treaty, claiming that Santa Anna had not acted on the behalf of mexico during the signing of the treaty. Regardless, for 10 years, Texas operated as its own sovereign nation, with it's only government, constitution, currency, etc. It made several attempts to become annexed by the US, as it was doing so well on it's own, but Jackson refused to annex it.

It was finally annexed by the US in 1845, at which time the Mexican-American war broke out where mexico claimed Texas was still a part of Mexico and the US didn't have the right to annex it. Mexico got it's ass handed to itself, and as part of the treaty of Guadalupe Hildago, Texas was ceded to the union for a relatively small amount of money.

 

[ThatsBitch3n]

Sean Connery 2012!!

 

[SidVicious]

Andrew Jackson because he didn't take shit from anyone.

 

[Simriel]

President John Henry Eton!

 

[Wyatt]

FDR, it cant be anyone else for our generation(s). sure Lincon freed the slaves, but FDR freed the whole nation, both with the changes he made with social policys for ALL Americans, and in a literal sense in having to fight in WWII.

i can think of many presidents that were kinda one hit wonders, they did ONE thing to make a change in our country, or they did something awsome for their time but with no real lasting effect on the nation as a whole, but i cant think of a president like FDR who changed the whole social picture of America, used those changes to recover from bad economic policys of the previous 150 years, AND at the same time managed to defeat the Germans and the Japaneese (ohh and the Itialians, cant forget them *snicker*)

the 'golden age' of the late 40s all the 50s and early 60s were a DIRECT result of FDR's policys. and the best aspects of them are still alive today and will, if put back into wide spread use, pull us out of this economic fire AGAIN.

FDR didnt just change laws or fight wars, he change the way we view ourselves as a nation. he turned a somewhat 'backwords' nation that America was pre 30s and turned us into the world leader we are today.

that alone is an accomplishment no one else can even come close to matching. not even washington himself let alone Lincon.

ive never understood why people think lincon was the shit anyhow. all he did was 'free' the slaves that didnt actualy ammount to anything for another 100 years or so, hell we still live with racism today, ohh and he provoked the civil war because of it. now dont get me wrong , SOMEONE had to do it, but i dont think lincon is anything special because he pulled the trigger on something that was going to happen anyhow. and perhaps if given another 10 or 15 years we could have avoided the entire war and ended the after effects of it befor they even began. we have spent the last 130 years (some of us) re-fighting the civil war and have managed to drag the whole race 'issue' out still too this day because of that war. i cant help but think that a better president would have found a way to free the salves and NOT fought a war, whos effects have lasted so long, to do it.

and im a 'yank' too just so anyone who cares knows im NOT from the south, i dont condone racism, and i dont think that the Civil war was a waste of lives or time. certianly ending slavery was something WORTH fighting a war over if anything is. i just wonder if a better man couldnt have found a way to do it without the war.

 

[Miniges]

Al Gore

 

[Miniges]

wait wait wait, Harrison Ford was the best president ever.

 

[Jack and Calumon]

I like Ike.

 

[Blanks]

toss up between Obama and Lincoln and JFK

 

[Run4Covar]

wait wait wait, Harrison Ford was the best president ever.

If you're referring to Air Force One, you beat me to it.

In all seriousness, Calvin Coolidge.

 

[thiosk]

Calvin Coolidge!

A great president is one who doesn't DO ANYTHING, thus he doesn't MUCK ANYTHING RIGHT UP

 

[thiosk]

Calvin Coolidge!

because a great president is one who didn't do enough to screw anything up!

 

[Nossy]

FDR FTW

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

toss up between Obama and Lincoln and JFK

GTFO

GO. JUST GO.

You don't have a place here for a comment like that. (See underline)

(No I am not racist, but the only thing that really has changed is skin colour. Ooo! Also, the first lady is decent looking, and young.)

 

[reyttm4]

Abe Lincoln. Now I'm not one for American history but i know Abe had a awesome beard and top hat, therefore he gets my vote.

 

[Daniel Cygnus]

Teddy Roosevelt, simply because he was an unimaginable badass.