The New Tea Party
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We don't need a postal service--we have email, which is a billion times more efficient and can be easily obtained for FREE. There are also numerous delivery services that would happily carry mail if it wasn't ILLEGAL to compete with the USPS. Did it ever occur to you to wonder why there are half a dozen major package delivery services but none of them carry letters? Oh, and your tax money doesn't pay for the USPS anyway, it's supposed to be self-supporting (hence why they charge for stamps). It isn't, of course, because government-run services are always corrupt and massively inefficient, hence why they're talking about cutting back on delivery services--no mail on Saturdays.Lisser said:
As for the state schools, people in the U.S. were better educated BEFORE we had state-funded schools, which haven't been around all that long (80 years or so, IIRC). And if you can't be bothered to pay for fire insurance, what is stopping you from putting out your house fire yourself? If it worries you so much, strip out your electrical wiring and do your cooking outside. Or live in a tent. Display some adaptability.
The only proper functions of government are the police, military, and court system, and those are cheap and can be funded by various means OTHER than base extortion. Taxes are unnecessary and there is nothing to be gained by leaving the government as a legalized version of a criminal agency. At present, there is zero difference between the U.S. government and the Mafia. Both are thugs demanding protection money--the only difference is that the Mafia doesn't take it upon itself to dictate every other aspect of your life to boot.
Conservatives don't support protesters, liberals are upset. They start supporting dissent, liberals are still upset. Somebody sounds whiny, and it's not the conservatives.
Taxes and government are supposed to be the cure for bullying? What? Maybe the bullshit policies that have been in place for 10 years aren't working, but that's just because they're dumb, and as we've all found out, bullying had nothing to do with those kids. Just ignore the taunts, why do you care what dumb asses think? If you do care so much work out, learn to fight, do something. I OF COURSE IN NO WAY CONDONE VIOLENCE WHATSOEVER. NO ONE SHOULD EVER START FIGHTS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT IS BAD. SERIOUSLYSuiseiseki IRL said:
Lot's of people can't buy their stuff from the local farmer. People are dumb and that's hard to change, and our messed up prison is keeping many people from coming to your house AND MURDERING YOUR FACE!Pyro Ghost said:
A lot of your post is just a little crazy, but this is just flat-out wrong. Before state-funded schools there was almost no education, except for private tutors and Oxford for the rich. Also, that wasn't around 80 years ago, this was all started in Continental Congress era with the 16 square and everything. I don't know about non-American school systems, but I know they've been around for awhile, and at least making sure kids these days are at least functional.JMeganSnow said:
Have you ever held a job? 15% of my income gets kept by the government and I work retail. The U.S. Federal government is going to spend 3.5 trillion dollars next year! The federal government is already too large and meddlesome and needs to do less stuff for us.orannis62 said:
Ever thought about saving money instead of trusting the government to take care of you? I'm sure you can find some people who are living paycheck to paycheck but most people are capable of putting money aside if they choose to.
This is a transcript from a tea party in Pensacola. If you want the source just PM me.
(Crowd applauds as he takes the microphone)
All right. Thank you very much.
I want to start also by honoring the service of our veterans, our current servicemembers, our Gold Star parents, thank you so much for what all you?ve done for this country. (Crowd cheers)
I also want to say, a little history lesson here, back in 2000, there was a budget surplus in the country. (Man in crowd: Yeah!) And during the next eight years, (Man in crowd: What happened?) it was destroyed by the profligate spending of the Bush administration. (Crowd reacts)
And so here we are today, here we are today in a situation ? let me ask you this: Cheer if you make less than 250,000 dollars a year. Just cheer. (Crowd cheers) Your taxes are going to be cut under the current budget. Congratulations!
I was laid off in September because my employer had to make budget cuts. That was before the election, okay? So let?s remember, that if you?re going to argue about more taxes and less spending, to place the blame where the blame belongs, and that?s squarely in the hands of the Republican Congress until 2006 (Crowd starts to react) and the Bush administration. (Crowd boos)
(Crowd applauds as he takes the microphone)
All right. Thank you very much.
I want to start also by honoring the service of our veterans, our current servicemembers, our Gold Star parents, thank you so much for what all you?ve done for this country. (Crowd cheers)
I also want to say, a little history lesson here, back in 2000, there was a budget surplus in the country. (Man in crowd: Yeah!) And during the next eight years, (Man in crowd: What happened?) it was destroyed by the profligate spending of the Bush administration. (Crowd reacts)
And so here we are today, here we are today in a situation ? let me ask you this: Cheer if you make less than 250,000 dollars a year. Just cheer. (Crowd cheers) Your taxes are going to be cut under the current budget. Congratulations!
I was laid off in September because my employer had to make budget cuts. That was before the election, okay? So let?s remember, that if you?re going to argue about more taxes and less spending, to place the blame where the blame belongs, and that?s squarely in the hands of the Republican Congress until 2006 (Crowd starts to react) and the Bush administration. (Crowd boos)
Well, I'm guessing you make less than 250,000 dollars a year right? You'll be glad to know you're getting a tax break.JRslinger said:
Sorry, I had to cut this up to make a more efficient setup.
Either way, you'd have to pay the salary of the services, and if you didn't, you wouldn't be protected. I promise, if taxes were to disappear, police would want money from you to save your life, and if they didn't get it, they'd leave your ass to die.
Okay, have you stopped to consider that there may be some people who don't have the luxury of an internet connection? Oh! What a concept, but they exist! And having dozens of companies vying for your order to be placed on their site would create more commercialization, and I'm sure the free market would be able to handle the rise in the amount of stock-sharers, right? It's been doing great so far.JMeganSnow said:
Wow...that might be the dumbest comment I have ever heard in my life. This comment is untrue. completely stupid beyond all fathom. People (at least people who care) are a lot smarter than they were in the early 19th century, trust me. They were maybe a lot less prone to questioning what they were taught then, but nowadays, that much has changed big-time. Everybody can go to school now. As it should be. In fact, I think College should be free as well, but if the taxes were to be raised any more, people like you would find more faults, right? Do you ever stop to think that maybe people of the lower middle, or maybe even people of the lower class might want a higher education too? I know? Crazy, right?JMeganSnow said:
Uh-huh, and this is a valid argument....how? Do you think that there is any way that anybody could fund the huge amounts of money needed to supply the army, eh? Do you have any idea what that costs?I really don't think you understand how the military works at all, do you. Also, there are hundreds of courts that need to be funded. Again, do you think that anybody could actually pay several hundred judges' salaries every single month? I think not. Police? You do know that every city, and every town has a police force, right? There is no way of funding any of these things without the government support through the taxes you'd pay.JMeganSnow said:
Either way, you'd have to pay the salary of the services, and if you didn't, you wouldn't be protected. I promise, if taxes were to disappear, police would want money from you to save your life, and if they didn't get it, they'd leave your ass to die.
Urgh... This ignorence again?
I don't know what you guys are thinking, but the Tea Parties are in place to prevent more taxes from being put into place. They arn't speaking out against the ones already in place, they are just working tword stopping a new wave of BS taxes. For instance, New Hampshire is planning on instituting its first Death Tax. We don't want that, so there was a protest held against it. What is so wrong with that?
I don't know what you guys are thinking, but the Tea Parties are in place to prevent more taxes from being put into place. They arn't speaking out against the ones already in place, they are just working tword stopping a new wave of BS taxes. For instance, New Hampshire is planning on instituting its first Death Tax. We don't want that, so there was a protest held against it. What is so wrong with that?
You are...a sad sad excuse for a human being.JMeganSnow said:
Show me a 1st world country with power and wealth like the US often has that has 0% federal and state tax? Think of those poor soldiers who are fighting wars in our name. Wihtout taxes we couldnt pay them and they would be replaced with amoral corperate armies like Blackwater.
Beyond that i dont get the whole tea thing. A: The colonists where protesting a blatently unfair tax system (which lacked things like, you know RIGHTS), not taxes in general. B: The Americans arnt known to be big tea drinkers nowadays.
So, they are protesting wasteful spending by buying truckloads of teabags then just dumping them in any body of water....right, thats not wasteful at all. The original Boston tea party we dumped, and correct me if i'm wrong, BRITISH tea into boston harbor, they didnt get dressed up as indians, go out and buy a few cases of tea and then dump it in the harbor. They should go break into the White House and take some of Obama's tea and dump that in the water.
The liberals aren't upset because they are in charge and the conservatives who previously had it their way are now out of power so what do they want to do? They want to throw the current party out of power. Both sides do this little dance every time the other one comes to power. This time it is the Conservatives who whine while the liberals have all the power.chronobreak said: