The New Tea Party
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The ignorance in this thread is unreal. Fox is covering the tea parties because people are tired of the govt. spending trillions during a recession and making BS taxes. They're covering it extensively because no other network wants to cover it. besides, as you liberals would say, "were just expressing our right to a free speech." So much for the "free minded" liberal; in reality most of them cannot sit down and listen to others people's opinions without interupting them in the first 5 seconds. The left protested everyday during the bush years and it was fine, but the moment the right organizes one, were all of a sudden nazis and racists.
TO be fair, everyone on the right complained about the left being a buncha hippies and communists whenever they protested Bush. So really, its just the sides being reversed.Barry93 said:
Lyiat said:
The "Death Tax" only kicks at taxing the inheritance of extremely rich people. No one is going to benefit removing the Estate Tax other than lazy rich people. Do you really want to start a protest in order to create a class of Paris Hiltons? Besides, according to Paul Krugman even with the estate tax you still get taxed more if earn a million dollars than if you inherent a million dollars.
Sorry but the whole thing reeks of astoturf.
Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Liberals are never happy with who they elect, they buy the candadites empty promises and then take to the streets when they get elected. The right has O'Reilly to bash bad poloticians. The tea parties aren't about right vs. left. While the majority were conservative at the tea parties the overall purpose was against a govt. that is out of control. BOTH conservative and liberal senators are spending way too much on useless programs and that's why there were protests. this got so much coverage from fox because they seemed to be the only network that realized this. MSNBC and CNN looked at it and thought "they're criticizing dear leader Obama who can do no wrong! it must be purely right wing directed only against liberals." or perhaps they do realize this and decided to spew propanda to their ignorant and loyal viewers to save their ratings (which are in the toilet by the way)
Last I checked, it was the conservatives calling the liberals Nazis, and many of the most conservative areas of the country are bastions of racism.Barry93 said:
When it was liberals protesting they were being "unamerican" and getting investigated with illegal wire taps. Most of these "new taxes" being instituted are just taxes being reinstated that the Bush administration either left as a time bomb waiting to blow up (make the estate tax go away) or just removed entirely (and all of those taxes only affected the rich.)
Let me just start out by stating this fun fact. For the price of the recent bail out we could of instead told every citizen that they didn't need to pay their taxes this year. That's right the amount spent is equal to the total income taxes collected in a year. I think giving everyone refund checks worth everything they had paid away would of helped the economy a lot more. After all they take about 1/3 of your income in taxes so getting it back would of been like a 50% raise since you only kept 2/3 before.
Now think about it this way. Someone steals your identity and goes out and buys a years worth of your income on stuff and then you are told you have to pay the bill! The government isn't paying for these bailouts with money it has. It is going out and getting LOANS to pay for this which also have INTEREST attached to it.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. You know the great depression? Well most people think that is was FDR's New Deal and all the government regulations that helped get us out of it. Turns out now many economist believe that in fact it prolonged it for several YEARS! And that's what we are all in for now. The link below is to an old article but it explains the basic premise.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx?RelNum=5409
The economy is actually very good at self correcting. The problem comes when people start messing with it via regulations and other prohibitive activities.
EDIT: Here is a nice quote from the end of the article which I think fits quiet nicely given the events in the world today.
"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said. "Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very rapid had the government not intervened."
Now think about it this way. Someone steals your identity and goes out and buys a years worth of your income on stuff and then you are told you have to pay the bill! The government isn't paying for these bailouts with money it has. It is going out and getting LOANS to pay for this which also have INTEREST attached to it.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. You know the great depression? Well most people think that is was FDR's New Deal and all the government regulations that helped get us out of it. Turns out now many economist believe that in fact it prolonged it for several YEARS! And that's what we are all in for now. The link below is to an old article but it explains the basic premise.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx?RelNum=5409
The economy is actually very good at self correcting. The problem comes when people start messing with it via regulations and other prohibitive activities.
EDIT: Here is a nice quote from the end of the article which I think fits quiet nicely given the events in the world today.
"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said. "Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very rapid had the government not intervened."
Just read my post above yours; it explains the true purpose of the protests. if they are just reinstating them, then so much for "CHANGE." Oh Christ, your one of those Anti-wire tap people. Bush really pushed the rules, but they weren't illeagal (indirectly says so in the constitution). Which is a document the liberal poloticains have put through a paper shredder in recent years. oh, people say it's invading on peoples privacy but i certainly have no problem with the govt. doing that. Rather that than another attack on the US. But a leader has a right to protect his country.asinann said:
Also, some conservatives were calling some liberals communists, not nazis. i wouldn't expect you to know this, but there's a huge difference.
Your probably one of those liberals that hate everything the bush administration did but if obama does the same exact thing, than it's ok.