The new Xbox 360 dashboard looks ridiculous..

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mwhite67

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You guys need to all quit crying. This new dashboard is going to make no difference whatsoever the games will still play the same, and fuck Africa.
 

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CatcherJJ said:
Well, as a Wii owner, I find it slightly funny that Microsoft would go with a more casual layout with Mii-esque avatars and a very kid-friendly look after all the shit they have given Nintendo about Wii owners "Graduating to the 360" and such. I guess MS saw the light, or excuse me, cash, that the casual market brings in.
I'm not a Wii owner, but I also happened to consider this hypocrisy. And also unlike you, I'm not finding this funny, I'm finding this insulting. Everyone who wants to cry about me complaining about this can do so, but I'm honest-to-the-Gods insulted that Microsoft are doing this after peddling their "we're for grown ups" console imagery, and then follow up with this rubbish. The interface itself looks fine, I guess, and will probably be better than the Blades, but those characters aren't something I would want to look at. Ever. They're ugly. Cartoony is fine, but these virtual avatars aren't cartoony. Penny Arcade are cartoony, and, if they hired Mike Krahulik to do the designs, so too would these ghastly mannequins. But they evidently did not hire a talented artist, and instead of having a beautiful/awesome/badass styilised set of customiseable avatars, they have ended up with soulless homonculi, bereft of any features that I find to be attractive, or even human.

Of course, my entire rant here should be ignored completely if those monstrosities are optional. But since they have not made it clear whether they will or won't be optional, I've written this anyway.

Matthew952 said:
I'm a bit worried about How fast it will be flipping through all that. But Would you rather have this, or have all of the new features crammed into the Current dash?
Or they could have just removed those avatars, and left us with a sleek, elegant, minimalist dashboard from which we could choose our options without being ridiculed by any who might look on.

JaguarWong said:
I said 'almost infinite COMBINATION' if one avatar is made from 9 sections and you have 3 options in each then you have nearly 20000 cominations (I think.....?)
Is it just me who hates the claim "nigh infinite combinations" every single time it's bandied? I don't doubt that there will be many combinations, nor do I take issue with the hyperbola created by the phrase "nearly infinite", but I find that whenever there are lots of combinations, very very few are of any appeal to me. Naturally, I accept that there are other people in the world than I, and these other such people will have different aesthetic tastes than I do, and so they will choose different combinations of parts, but do many people ever find that many combinations are appealing? Or is everyone like me, finding only a few parts worth their time?

Gunmanj said:
[The above 3 posts]
Please don't triple post.
 

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Fenixius said:
CatcherJJ said:
Well, as a Wii owner, I find it slightly funny that Microsoft would go with a more casual layout with Mii-esque avatars and a very kid-friendly look after all the shit they have given Nintendo about Wii owners "Graduating to the 360" and such. I guess MS saw the light, or excuse me, cash, that the casual market brings in.
I'm not a Wii owner, but I also happened to consider this hypocrisy. And also unlike you, I'm not finding this funny, I'm finding this insulting. Everyone who wants to cry about me complaining about this can do so, but I'm honest-to-the-Gods insulted that Microsoft are doing this after peddling their "we're for grown ups" console imagery, and then follow up with this rubbish.
I don't know that it's something to be that upset about.

I'm failing to see any real hypocrisy. The idea that "younger, casual gamers may want to switch to the 360 eventually" and "we're going to go after the younger, casual market that we want to switch over" aren't exactly mutually exclusive concepts.
 

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Virgil said:
I don't particularly care for the avatars, but other than that it seems like it will be a nice upgrade for usability.
Huge win in that department. When they showed the dashboard in action, a lot of the people watching were very excited about the dialogues with quicklinks to the most common actions. So much better than the 3-4 layers deep interaction right now to do a lot of simple tasks.
 

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From what I've seen so far , I kinda of like it other then the avatar mii rip-off, as others have said its close to windows media center. It looks like the classic blade dashboard pops out when you press the xbox guide button in a simmaler matter that the one blade pops out now.

It really needed the upgrade IMO the current blade based dashboard sucks completely. Many of its blades are redundant, its hard (harder then it needs to be) to get to XBLA games, movies etc.

Microsoft wanted to push the xbox as more then a stand alone game system, and it needs an interface that doesn't hide major parts of the service that is also easy to use. The interface used in windows media center has proven itself as an easy to use with a remote
 

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Gunmanj said:
I bet those prizes are going to suck, like new clothes for your avatar, or something that wont cost Microsoft anything.
To be fair, one of the things I really liked about certain games was how they would 'unlock' new avatar options for you for doing certain things. It was few and far between, for the most part, but Mass Effect did it for completing each of their top two difficulty levels. There are also some associated with classic games on XBLA - Pac-Man, Galaga, etc.

In that sense, there is some aspect of the avatars that could be interesting. Being able to 'unlock' a set of Spartan armor, equipment from Ninja Gaiden, that sort of thing. Thinking about it that way, the new avatars might be more interesting than just the static images over time. A cross-game collectible metagame with a more obvious result than achievements.
 

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Virgil said:
Gunmanj said:
I bet those prizes are going to suck, like new clothes for your avatar, or something that wont cost Microsoft anything.
To be fair, one of the things I really liked about certain games was how they would 'unlock' new avatar options for you for doing certain things. It was few and far between, for the most part, but Mass Effect did it for completing each of their top two difficulty levels. There are also some associated with classic games on XBLA - Pac-Man, Galaga, etc.

In that sense, there is some aspect of the avatars that could be interesting. Being able to 'unlock' a set of Spartan armor, equipment from Ninja Gaiden, that sort of thing. Thinking about it that way, the new avatars might be more interesting than just the static images over time. A cross-game collectible metagame with a more obvious result than achievements.
Some guy from Rare from the short video shown at the E3 presser mentioned you can earn new clothing options when playing games, so maybe it will be an addition to your achievements, for example "Completing Halo 3 campaign on legendary" would unlock a master chief helmet for your avatar to wear or something.

Now that would be sweet, but I doubt it'll happen.
 

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So Major Nelson posted some screenshots [http://www.flickr.com/photos/majornelson/sets/72157606205914939/] of 'themed' dashboards.



I think these are a much better style for themes than what they have on the current interface.

 

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The screenshot with the Halo theme looks promising. Now I can actually get a nice wallpaper without it being obstructed by those shitty looking blades.
 

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Theo Samaritan said:
I think 360 owners just got a kick to the nads *cringes*
I just see a huge brouhaha over nothing. Yes, the dashboard looks different. Big deal. Doesn't affect the games.
 

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If it isn't broken, I can learn to adjust. If it had been made this way first we'd think it was awesome.
 

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Mostly I see you people just resisting change, as people always will. Most of you will eventually prefer the new set-up while the most close-minded conservatives will remain forever and pointlessly opposed.

I will hold-off joining one of those factions until I get my hands on the redesign. Needless to say I will be among the latter if themes and gamerpics no longer function. I'm also hopping that the in-game 360 menu remains a blade, but that's just a preference.
 

Korhal

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Well, the most radical thinker is the conservative the day after the revolution... :p

I'm good with it. I actually kind of like it. The current dashboard is a cluttered mess.
 

KeyMaster45

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think i just won't connect my xbox to the internet again...........ever, that way my dashboard won't change.
 

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JaguarWong said:
Yeah!

Change and modernisation is bad!

If everyone could get a fucking grip I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks.
Not all change is good.

I already have a Wii. I'm disappointed at Microsoft's whoring it's new dashboard, when they've pretty much Ctrl-C Ctrl-V'd it, thrown a new coat of paint on it, and called it original.

That said, the dashboard was getting dated, and an update is long overdue. I just hope now they'll let me change my profile settings without forcing me to move my 360 into a room with an Ethernet cable, and connect to LIVE everytime.