I'm not a Wii owner, but I also happened to consider this hypocrisy. And also unlike you, I'm not finding this funny, I'm finding this insulting. Everyone who wants to cry about me complaining about this can do so, but I'm honest-to-the-Gods insulted that Microsoft are doing this after peddling their "we're for grown ups" console imagery, and then follow up with this rubbish. The interface itself looks fine, I guess, and will probably be better than the Blades, but those characters aren't something I would want to look at. Ever. They're ugly. Cartoony is fine, but these virtual avatars aren't cartoony. Penny Arcade are cartoony, and, if they hired Mike Krahulik to do the designs, so too would these ghastly mannequins. But they evidently did not hire a talented artist, and instead of having a beautiful/awesome/badass styilised set of customiseable avatars, they have ended up with soulless homonculi, bereft of any features that I find to be attractive, or even human.CatcherJJ said:Well, as a Wii owner, I find it slightly funny that Microsoft would go with a more casual layout with Mii-esque avatars and a very kid-friendly look after all the shit they have given Nintendo about Wii owners "Graduating to the 360" and such. I guess MS saw the light, or excuse me, cash, that the casual market brings in.
Or they could have just removed those avatars, and left us with a sleek, elegant, minimalist dashboard from which we could choose our options without being ridiculed by any who might look on.Matthew952 said:I'm a bit worried about How fast it will be flipping through all that. But Would you rather have this, or have all of the new features crammed into the Current dash?
Is it just me who hates the claim "nigh infinite combinations" every single time it's bandied? I don't doubt that there will be many combinations, nor do I take issue with the hyperbola created by the phrase "nearly infinite", but I find that whenever there are lots of combinations, very very few are of any appeal to me. Naturally, I accept that there are other people in the world than I, and these other such people will have different aesthetic tastes than I do, and so they will choose different combinations of parts, but do many people ever find that many combinations are appealing? Or is everyone like me, finding only a few parts worth their time?JaguarWong said:I said 'almost infinite COMBINATION' if one avatar is made from 9 sections and you have 3 options in each then you have nearly 20000 cominations (I think.....?)
Please don't triple post.Gunmanj said:[The above 3 posts]
I don't know that it's something to be that upset about.Fenixius said:I'm not a Wii owner, but I also happened to consider this hypocrisy. And also unlike you, I'm not finding this funny, I'm finding this insulting. Everyone who wants to cry about me complaining about this can do so, but I'm honest-to-the-Gods insulted that Microsoft are doing this after peddling their "we're for grown ups" console imagery, and then follow up with this rubbish.CatcherJJ said:Well, as a Wii owner, I find it slightly funny that Microsoft would go with a more casual layout with Mii-esque avatars and a very kid-friendly look after all the shit they have given Nintendo about Wii owners "Graduating to the 360" and such. I guess MS saw the light, or excuse me, cash, that the casual market brings in.
Huge win in that department. When they showed the dashboard in action, a lot of the people watching were very excited about the dialogues with quicklinks to the most common actions. So much better than the 3-4 layers deep interaction right now to do a lot of simple tasks.Virgil said:I don't particularly care for the avatars, but other than that it seems like it will be a nice upgrade for usability.
To be fair, one of the things I really liked about certain games was how they would 'unlock' new avatar options for you for doing certain things. It was few and far between, for the most part, but Mass Effect did it for completing each of their top two difficulty levels. There are also some associated with classic games on XBLA - Pac-Man, Galaga, etc.Gunmanj said:I bet those prizes are going to suck, like new clothes for your avatar, or something that wont cost Microsoft anything.
Some guy from Rare from the short video shown at the E3 presser mentioned you can earn new clothing options when playing games, so maybe it will be an addition to your achievements, for example "Completing Halo 3 campaign on legendary" would unlock a master chief helmet for your avatar to wear or something.Virgil said:To be fair, one of the things I really liked about certain games was how they would 'unlock' new avatar options for you for doing certain things. It was few and far between, for the most part, but Mass Effect did it for completing each of their top two difficulty levels. There are also some associated with classic games on XBLA - Pac-Man, Galaga, etc.Gunmanj said:I bet those prizes are going to suck, like new clothes for your avatar, or something that wont cost Microsoft anything.
In that sense, there is some aspect of the avatars that could be interesting. Being able to 'unlock' a set of Spartan armor, equipment from Ninja Gaiden, that sort of thing. Thinking about it that way, the new avatars might be more interesting than just the static images over time. A cross-game collectible metagame with a more obvious result than achievements.
I just see a huge brouhaha over nothing. Yes, the dashboard looks different. Big deal. Doesn't affect the games.Theo Samaritan said:I think 360 owners just got a kick to the nads *cringes*
Not all change is good.JaguarWong said:Yeah!
Change and modernisation is bad!
If everyone could get a fucking grip I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks.