The next gaming crash: Do you see the signs?

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xPixelatedx

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There doesn't seem to be a single inch of the gaming scene that isn't a total mess right now. Putting aside the fact that I can't think of anything exciting to look forward to at E3 (or should I say the event that was once E3) gaming has become a rather depressing hobby.


GAME the UK retailer shuts down, and as much as you American people might not think this effects you, I hear this is how many if not most people in the UK were getting their games. Regardless of the game or console, that is an awful lot of sales lost and it will hurt every franchise in the end.

Speaking of GameStop, in a recent article at GameInformer they mentioned that GameStop will no longer be taking Gamecube stuff (even though they still accept PS2/original Xbox trade-ins). At the bottom of this article they remind people in a disclaimer that they are owned by GameStop. They had put that disclaimer there because they knew the mere mention of that store would immediately cause people to become irate. I would like to say something negative about GameStop, but I think that says it all right there...

Then we have Mass Effect 3 and regardless of which side of the fence you stand on, one thing rings true: I have not seen so many people vocally disappointed with a game since E.T. for the Atari. What's worse, this game has countless campaigns against it, yet still somehow is receiving perfect 10's, which makes the entire 'Online Videogame Review' system more suspect then it ever was before, particularly at IGN who has a staff member in the game. At the very least, this situation has shown who can be trusted and who can't.

Sony removes an advertised feature from their console people already bought, which starts an attack from Anonymous, which in turn made the consumer rights of gamers a HUGE political subject from here on. That happened a little while ago, but it's effects can still be felt to this day. Microsoft recently followed by making sure you cannot sue them for any wrongdoings they might decide on. What's worse, they felt they had to do this which means they may already have some bad business practices in store for us (oh boy).

Some people in the industry start to become a tad too vocal about their opinion on used sales, then start saying if we buy used or rent (or even borrow from a friend) we are thieves and pirates. As small as this may seem, the actions of the industry have shown it to be abundantly clear this is how many people feel. This is why endless rumors of new consoles one day being all digital have started. While they may be just rumors now, I don't see why this can't happen. It seems a lot more likely then some of the other things we have put up with recently, so I won't be surprised if it does happen.

Speaking of which, DRM has become more obstructive then ever and instead of fighting piracy it has essentially become a punishment for buying PC games legitimately. The problems this has caused have actually forced some gamers to search the net for illegitimate copies of the games they just purchased, just so they can play their purchase.

Origin set a new standards for spyware; attach it to Triple-A titles. Now that EA has proven we will allow game companies to come into our personal space and rummage through our things, expect it to become a fad. Then expect companies to "defend" this behavior by saying they were trying to get to know you better, so they could send you the "right advertisements".

Konami is falling apart, but I don't think I could say that better then Jim Sterling did:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5524-Konami

Capcom is falling apart:


Putting aside both the failings of Konami and Capcom, both companies have surrendered some of their biggest franchises to western developers who clearly can't deliver the same quality of product (particularly with Silent Hill). This is odd, considering these companies want our money and they need it more then ever right now.

Nintendo decides the casual market was unsustainable and makes a promise to appeal to 'The Gaming Crowd' again, then immediately shows us they won't keep that promise. Much to the disappointment of fans, Nintendo refuses to bring over the newer games that would appeal to this crowd. This starts operation Rainfall which was a semi failure. To add insult to injury, they claimed their reasoning had to do with localization costs. The thing is, Xenoblade was already in English, so it's quite preposterous to think there was ever a reason to withhold it from American to begin with. Eventually Nintendo caves and we get Xenoblade, but it takes an entire movement to make it happen. All this while they are on the verge of trying to get us to buy their new console, a console they are marketing for "gamers".


All of this combined just seems to be a flesh wound on gaming, and certainly isn't the mortal one that will end it. I wonder however, just how bad some of these things will fester and carry over into the next gen. So what do you people think? I am afraid of just how much worse things can get. But more importantly, how bad do they have to get before we have to worry about a crash? What do you think it would take to achieve that?
 

ChildishLegacy

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Steam is getting thousands of new users every month, MMOs are very popular as are online FPSs and such, I think PC gaming is coming into its prime at the moment. Not sure about consoles since I'm not really interested in them at the moment, but I know so many more households have consoles now than they used to and its becoming more of a cultural phenomenon than a sub cultural one. I wouldn't worry too soon tbh.
 

GoaThief

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I think, especially after reading the above, there won't be a crash but I wouldn't be surprised to see some Japanese companies fall by the wayside. Not too fussed about that if I'm brutally honest, as I think our developers are by far better on the whole. Portal 2 and Skyrim are two absolutely amazing games that have done very well commercially, then you have monster series like Modern Warfare smashing records left, right and centre. Bioware have come in for a lot of flak but will probably survive as despite their fans being really vocal, they're also some of the most fickle in their convictions and will cave in and buy Dragon Gate Effect 2814 - now with extra bewbies and gigglesquee.

Not saying the industry is in a great place now as it isn't, there are many things that need addressing concerning things like funding and contracts for studios... hopefully it won't take the loss of too many jobs before that changes. The next generation of consoles can't come soon enough really, so much time is spent optimising and compromising for outdated technology. Everything could be far worse, however.
 

RJ 17

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I want Dark Stalkers 4. :(

And was QUITE thoroughly pissed when I purchased MvC3 only to find MvC3U was coming out 5 months later...yeah, that's kinda a big way to tell your fans to go fuck themselves...

Not to mention it made absolutely no sense. What's the difference in the games? 6 characters or so? Holy crap, thank god we released a completely separate game to accommodate them!!
 

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Digital downloads are killing the storefront retailers, not a decline in gaming as a medium. Games are cheaper and more plentiful right now than at any time in history, and with the indie scene exploding we're seeing a lot of genre blending and creative spark seep back in. Now we're getting kickstarter programs where the fans are the publisher, we're seeing dead genres like TBS and adventure games clawing out of the grave, the incestuous reviewer/publisher relationship...which has been around for more than a decade...is being recognized and commented on in mainstream media...GOG is upping the ante and offering a Steam-lite service with no DRM...

Seriously, what's not to like? It's a great time to be a gamer.
 

Smooth Operator

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Oh you people and your apocalypse wet dreams, just go watch some porn will you.
What you see is the circle of life, all good things come to an end, meanwhile others sprout all around us.
 

Mayhemski

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No not really another crash on the cards, and even if there is I think that gaming is far more embedded into peoples lives than it was before meaning that the ability/market for companies to bounce back is in place.

The Studio system that the gaming industry seems to be moving towards probably needs to die and fast I agree, but until there's a significant reduction in development costs for modern games I can't see that happening. And when it does gaming should be far better off than it is currently.

Honestly I think the biggest change is going to be the change in consumers attitudes towards games and how they are delivered and paid for. The recent furore over ME3 has shown a rift between creators and customers that needs to be dealt with on both sides before the industry can move on. How you do that I'm not sure ut I honestly think companies need to be more transparent in how costs are recouped and a profit made as a starting point.
 

Atmos Duality

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Fawxy said:
There is an exactly 0% chance that there will be another gaming crash.
There is 100% chance, actually.
Whether we see it in our lifetime or not, is debatable.

The more timely question: Who will stay and who will fall?
Because it looks like the winds of change are upon the Publishers yet again.
 

Lilani

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xPixelatedx said:
All of this combined just seems to be a flesh wound on gaming, and certainly isn't the mortal one that will end it. I wonder however, just how bad some of these things will fester and carry over into the next gen. So what do you people think? I am afraid of just how much worse things can get. But more importantly, how bad do they have to get before we have to worry about a crash? What do you think it would take to achieve that?
In the end, all of those companies you listed up there want one thing: money. The games industry isn't failing. It's in transition, and those companies know it. That is why they're floundering around so much--to find their place in this new atmosphere. Because they want money, and they are trying to figure out how they can make it these days. Things like DRM, digital downloads, availability, and cost have never been such big issues in the games industry before. And now they are quickly becoming the big issues that drive the way customers interact with games and how they spend their money. So all those big companies you listed, including EA, are scrounging around for answers. They are trying to find ways to force their previous habits into the new atmosphere, and it's just not a good fit. They're too scared to make any big changes, and haven't been pushed to that breaking point yet.

Will it break the games industry as a whole? I don't think so. Sure a few big companies seem to be on the verge of total failure, but that doesn't mean they will bring the whole industry with it. They have a lot of assets and resources to keep things in check. I think, more than anything, they just need a change in leadership. They need people in who are willing to make their companies function as an approachable service rather than simply a behemoth who blindly dispenses products. That shit won't fly anymore.

Again, this isn't a collapse, simply a transition into a new era. When digital cameras began to gain dominance over film 5-6 years ago, HUGE companies failed to adjust in time and quickly found themselves at the doorstep of bankruptcy. Kodak just barely changed in time, but Polaroid hasn't been the same since. The same sort of thing is going on here, but just a bit slower. The climate and demands of the industry are changing, and it's up to these companies to see these changes and decide whether they will bend or break.
 

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And yet we forget services like steam and the inclusion of successes like Kinect. We are not headed to a crash despite your cynical views. Our industries games may not be that great right now but we are most certainly not headed for a crash.
 

Atmos Duality

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Fawxy said:
The only thing that could possibly cause another gaming crash would be the downfall of modern technology as a whole. I.e. - a scenario of apocalyptic proportions.
Or massive shifts in global social agenda. Changes in government, etc.
I wouldn't rule those out quite yet, but yeah, I don't think "gaming" is going to have another total crash barring a catastrophe now.

On the other hand, the AAA business is standing on the threshold of a new era; one that requires adaptation. The old business models are outdated, and about to die. Whether the new models are any better for the customer or not (I'm guessing 'No') remains to be seen.

As for who stays and who goes, that's an extremely tough question. I'm not sure about Sony and Microsoft's survivability in the console market, but I don't see Nintendo going anywhere in my lifetime. As for publishers... there could be some shakeups. EA and Ubisoft are hemorrhaging money at the moment, while companies like Capcom and Konami are rapidly losing customer loyalty. Activision seems to be the most well off at the moment, and as long as they have COD I think that will continue. Time will tell, I suppose.
Activision is the most stable, but they're stable due to consolidation. That is, they are rising as their competition falters. Why? Simply brand loyalty.

"Brand loyalty" is a game of defaults. When given a choice, most customers will default to what they feel is familiar.
For MMOs, this means going back to the same treadmill and guilds after trying something different. For CoD4.x, it means going back to the same multiplayer and 15 dollar maps.
It's not that these games are necessarily better than their competition on their own merits; it's just that they are so ingrained into the industry, that everyone is overly-familiar with them.
Halo was in CoD4.x's place before, and everyone was shamelessly copying their formula before them (including CoD4.x).

With the unease in the upcoming console market, I question how long CoD4, and thus Activision's free ride can last.

Elsewhere...

Methinks the Japanese Publishing giants are doing everything in their power to become more appealing and "loyal" to their home market; even if it means burning bridges with Western markets.

And just from a business standpoint: that's incredibly stupid. But it's the only rational reason I can think of as to why several of those companies just continue to make terrible decision after terrible decision.

They have demand for their products. Usually they have already made the products. What the hell is keeping them from translating and porting them to other markets?
 

Trippy Turtle

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Recently we have a massive amount of good indie games. How we get games might change but I don't think they are going anywhere.
 

The Lunatic

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It can't happen.

The old crash was due to people not buying crappy games with zero innovation and little motivation to be creative.

These days, people will buy them in the boat-load.