having EA Store/Origins be the "first" promotional conduit for TOR, is a bad precedent.
if we're lucky, it's just a EA promotional boon, much like they shit on Steam buyers for Dragon Age 2 signature edition with advanced preorders, right up to handing out 5 different branded pre-order DLC items for gamestop, amazon, best buy, razer, etc., benefits that ppl had to sign up for early to get them, as well as the Dead Space 2 tie-in promotion, and the later Mass Effect 2 tie-in, etc. TOR looks to be hanging under the same EA marketing squad as DA2/DA3/ME3, etc.
The danger that all should really be aware of, is that EA never stops trying to be dicks. Very early days really.
Would be a good thing if we could get a promise that it won't happen from bioware, if that's even worth anything.
If they are restricting DD to EA Store/Origins, they may be doing so because it's their payment conduit as well for DLC and perhaps DRM, somewhat like MW2 did with steam authentication. if that happens to be the reason, EA Store/Origins may be the DRM container that the game discs release content with, or that in game purchases and subscriptions end up using too.
it could use the tokens system that DA2/ME2 is using now with the Social Network integration, but it's more likely that they will have to redress the DLC payment system to deal with subscribers and payment cards, or use an intermediary service like warhammer online uses, perhaps with the assistance of Bioware or another provider.
PSN's down for 6 weeks, making games unplayable ? they just love sony all the more. it's stockholm syndrome, love your abuser because they pay attention while they beat you down. that does not make a car battery a better system than EADM, nor does it make jumper leads a gaming accessory, it just makes torture more acceptable because you have to pay for it. That's what Origins is, a way to make DRM more attractive, a polished turd.
So, Origins, EA Store or EADM v8, is largely hikaru dorodango, also known as shiny balls of dirt, layers of impacted dirt or feces, water and polish. EA proves they really can polish a turd over 7 years, and make it nice and shiny for all to see. EA's dorodango has a nice ring to it.
EA's DD.
The DRM containers and client software are still very broken compared to Steam or D2D/Impulse, and their pricing is still awful. i'm guessing that a lot of people have trouble with the DRM, and then there's those people who haven't tried loading new games like ME2 since the Origins change, so they haven't noticed the DRM container is broken again.
i've bought 4 games over 7 years with EADM, 2 were free, 2 were unintentional, all have been mistakes. i've bought 400+ games with steam, and while half of those were unfortunate or just erroneous, and some just partial mistakes made after having played them, i don't regret the other half. When steam updates, it doesn't break the games. When EADM updates, it does.
if it hadn't been for the 40% over RRP prices, the ridiculous DRM, $40+ DLC, and the awe that is finding an appropriate support department in EA apart from a live rep, i'd never ever spend money to buy an EA title via EADM. ever.
i quote from Wikipedia's stance on EA Store's regional pricing ... "these prices may be dramatically different, as in the case of Medal of Honor: Airborne costs $21.15 AUD in the United States, but costs $99.99 AUD in Australia"
renaming a turd, does not remove the stink, it just shows they hired more people to polish it.
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if TOR tries to do what STO or COH/CO have done, launch-integrated RMT purchaseable items using the EA store/origins to sell fancy hats, clothing options and window curtains for in-game characters and RMT's, i don't think i'll buy the game at all.
that shit ruined PS Home from what it could be, to something implausible and useless. it didn't really punish STO because, any game that bad needed the push once you introduce tribbles as an economy tool (sigh); the die has been cast for STO. City of Heroes/Villains, Champions Online, do no better or worse with RMT/IGE, it's subjective.
In Game Equipment purchases, including clothing, are OK when it's mildly cosmetic. when it drastically alters the economy or the play, or feels compulsory, i.e. zynga games, etc. then you have some serious balance issues that will result, especially in a PvP setting, due to player mechanics. it will ruin any sense of immersion in a MMO if people feel entitled with RMT-purchased 'bounty hunter jeans' while dancing on landspeeders that only hover on top of mailboxes, it's going to get old, fast.
the danger is not that RMT will ruin any game, it's that RMT gives douchebags an opportunity to be douchebags.
sticking TOR onto Origins (EA Store) is only going to be an issue if TOR is heading down the walled garden path to including in-game DLC via the origins store, much like Warhammer online still offers DLC via the EA Store.
if we're lucky, it's just a EA promotional boon, much like they shit on Steam buyers for Dragon Age 2 signature edition with advanced preorders, right up to handing out 5 different branded pre-order DLC items for gamestop, amazon, best buy, razer, etc., benefits that ppl had to sign up for early to get them, as well as the Dead Space 2 tie-in promotion, and the later Mass Effect 2 tie-in, etc. TOR looks to be hanging under the same EA marketing squad as DA2/DA3/ME3, etc.
The danger that all should really be aware of, is that EA never stops trying to be dicks. Very early days really.
Would be a good thing if we could get a promise that it won't happen from bioware, if that's even worth anything.
If they are restricting DD to EA Store/Origins, they may be doing so because it's their payment conduit as well for DLC and perhaps DRM, somewhat like MW2 did with steam authentication. if that happens to be the reason, EA Store/Origins may be the DRM container that the game discs release content with, or that in game purchases and subscriptions end up using too.
it could use the tokens system that DA2/ME2 is using now with the Social Network integration, but it's more likely that they will have to redress the DLC payment system to deal with subscribers and payment cards, or use an intermediary service like warhammer online uses, perhaps with the assistance of Bioware or another provider.
idiot fans can rationalise any intolerable system. attaching car batteries via jumper leads to earlobes as an alternative to EADM ? 9/10 EA players would have bleeding ears and a working game eventually.rsvp42 said:
PSN's down for 6 weeks, making games unplayable ? they just love sony all the more. it's stockholm syndrome, love your abuser because they pay attention while they beat you down. that does not make a car battery a better system than EADM, nor does it make jumper leads a gaming accessory, it just makes torture more acceptable because you have to pay for it. That's what Origins is, a way to make DRM more attractive, a polished turd.
So, Origins, EA Store or EADM v8, is largely hikaru dorodango, also known as shiny balls of dirt, layers of impacted dirt or feces, water and polish. EA proves they really can polish a turd over 7 years, and make it nice and shiny for all to see. EA's dorodango has a nice ring to it.
EA's DD.
The DRM containers and client software are still very broken compared to Steam or D2D/Impulse, and their pricing is still awful. i'm guessing that a lot of people have trouble with the DRM, and then there's those people who haven't tried loading new games like ME2 since the Origins change, so they haven't noticed the DRM container is broken again.
i've bought 4 games over 7 years with EADM, 2 were free, 2 were unintentional, all have been mistakes. i've bought 400+ games with steam, and while half of those were unfortunate or just erroneous, and some just partial mistakes made after having played them, i don't regret the other half. When steam updates, it doesn't break the games. When EADM updates, it does.
if it hadn't been for the 40% over RRP prices, the ridiculous DRM, $40+ DLC, and the awe that is finding an appropriate support department in EA apart from a live rep, i'd never ever spend money to buy an EA title via EADM. ever.
i quote from Wikipedia's stance on EA Store's regional pricing ... "these prices may be dramatically different, as in the case of Medal of Honor: Airborne costs $21.15 AUD in the United States, but costs $99.99 AUD in Australia"
renaming a turd, does not remove the stink, it just shows they hired more people to polish it.
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if TOR tries to do what STO or COH/CO have done, launch-integrated RMT purchaseable items using the EA store/origins to sell fancy hats, clothing options and window curtains for in-game characters and RMT's, i don't think i'll buy the game at all.
that shit ruined PS Home from what it could be, to something implausible and useless. it didn't really punish STO because, any game that bad needed the push once you introduce tribbles as an economy tool (sigh); the die has been cast for STO. City of Heroes/Villains, Champions Online, do no better or worse with RMT/IGE, it's subjective.
In Game Equipment purchases, including clothing, are OK when it's mildly cosmetic. when it drastically alters the economy or the play, or feels compulsory, i.e. zynga games, etc. then you have some serious balance issues that will result, especially in a PvP setting, due to player mechanics. it will ruin any sense of immersion in a MMO if people feel entitled with RMT-purchased 'bounty hunter jeans' while dancing on landspeeders that only hover on top of mailboxes, it's going to get old, fast.
the danger is not that RMT will ruin any game, it's that RMT gives douchebags an opportunity to be douchebags.
sticking TOR onto Origins (EA Store) is only going to be an issue if TOR is heading down the walled garden path to including in-game DLC via the origins store, much like Warhammer online still offers DLC via the EA Store.
