The one mod I would love to see in Fallout 3

[jad4400]

i want to see a mod that allows you to start a settlement in the Fallout 3 world. It would be preety cool if you have to try and find old equipment to make your settlement work (like fresh food scorces, meds, etc), and you would have to try and convince people to come to your settlement and you would have to figure out how to make the defences of the settlerment.

 

[DirkGently]

I would like to see a mod making use of the third person camera and returning the game to a turn based battle system.

I don't get the fallout 1-2 "hardcore" fans... Why would anyone wanna do that terrible thing?

The turn based system of the original fallout was so due to technological limitations... On a game that lives of it's immersion making it "turn based" is like... Wiping your ass with the Mona Lisa.

I suppose fanboys will be fanboys but I honestly can't see what "turn based" gameplay can ever do for anyone except compensate for personal ineptitude.

Please stop referencing Yahtzee. It's not funny.

Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 were far superior games and RPGs than Fallout 3, or "Call of Duty: Capital Wasteland". Due to the fact that shooting outside of VATS ruins the point of AP and the agility stat. The Van Buren, the canceled Fallout 3 that was being made Black Isle Studios before Interplay axed them, design documents called for a real time combat system; movement would no longer cost AP, however, it would stop it from regenerating. Shooting, punching, stabbing, kicking, throwing, and item using would all cost AP, a system I find to be far superior to Bethesda's VATS.

While Fallout 3 is by no means a bad game, it's a terrible Fallout game. It severely lacks the humor and style of the previous games, never mind the difficulty or that the RPG aspect is actually important to playing your character. In Fallout 3 you canmax out the three ranged combat skills, along with repair, lockpicking, science, barter and speech if you choose your perks carefully.

Also, the world of Fallout 3 is pretty damned unbelievable. Aside from how Elder Lyons completely changed the policy of the Brotherhood, and there is still plenty of dudes to have enough split from them and form their own group, none of them seem interested in manufacturing weapons, the role of the Knights, or designing new ones or improvements (the scribes), they're all interested in using them (the Paladins). There are no farms anywhere, everyone is living off TV dinners and frozen meals from two hundred fucking years ago. Think about that for a second. Everyone is living off frozen TV dinners from two hundred years ago. How the hell does that make any sense? They would all have been eaten or rotted by the time you emerge from Vault 101. Also, it's fairly easy to filter water to remove the radiation, the super mutants have no depth, and where the hell is their supply of FEV? Fallout 1 had big giant vats of the stuff that people were dipped into. If it's Vault 87, then how the hell do they get in and how come I can't? They obviously can't take people in via the vault door as it's been slagged in place, and the radiation would deep-fry anybody trying to get in that wasn't a super mutant.

Sorry to rant like that, but don't go and insult us fans of two of the greatest RPGs ever made because you don't have the patience to sit down and think through an encounter rather than just pouring bullets at enemy until his body explodes.

Also, OP, check out Project V13. It's a Fallout MMO currently in development by Interplay.

 

[Aries_Split]

Also, OP, check out Project V13. It's a Fallout MMO currently in development by Interplay.

It's the light at the end of the tunnel Johnny. Don't worry. Don't worry. No more nonsense Johnny...No more VATS nonsense.
No more Stimpacks.

OH GOD! NO MORE STIMPACKS JOHNNY! PRAISE JESUS!

 

[DirkGently]

Also, OP, check out Project V13. It's a Fallout MMO currently in development by Interplay.

It's the light at the end of the tunnel Johnny. Don't worry. Don't worry. No more nonsense Johnny...No more VATS nonsense.
No more Stimpacks.

OH GOD! NO MORE STIMPACKS JOHNNY! PRAISE JESUS!

Well, there's nothing wrong with them, they shouldn't be used to heal crippled limbs. That's what the doctor skill is for.

Let's see...

Fallout 3 has a huge world.
There are motorcycles lying around everywhere (a sound Repair skill could make them functional again in a perfect world).
You can have a sawed-off shotgun.
Terminator 2 was awesome.

Uh, you're forgetting that there is a severe lack of fuel in the world. Sorta started a war and all. Never mind that most of motorcycles are lying there for a reason. They've been scavenged for parts to death, they're in no real condition to go anywhere, there is no fucking gasoline to run them on, and even if you could manage to find fuel, tires, and get the damn thing working again, you'd probably crash the thing like an asshole because A) you don't know how to drive a motorcycle and B) the terrain is not fit for driving anything.

Oh, and the terminator didn't have a sawn-off double barreled shotgun. Mad Max did, and there is sadly no more leather jacket outfit.

 

[ice spirit]

seems you've forgotten that every bloody vehicle explodes after 2 bullets, so no fuel......... and not knowing how to drive it, there quite likely still books around with something like a manual. But if you would be able to drive a motorcycle(which you actually can) in that case a skill should be made that allows you to improve your driving abilities, like in GTA:SA, this could be improved by spending skillpoints on it through the level screen.

PS. terminator HAD a sawn-off double barreled shotgun http://www.originalprop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/terminator2-comp-sdhd-01.jpg do some research before saying things

 

[EnglishMuffin]

No amount of mods will ever stop Fallout 3 from being an epic pile of shit. Stop playing and stop paying for shitty games. If you give companies money for terrible games, they will just keep making terrible games.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

Yawwwnnn, oh did this turn into more Fallout 3 Wah Wah ing? oh it's not like the game I played in the 90's, it's horrible!

Bethesda has SAID it's a 'spiritual' successor to Fallout 3 and acknowledged the changes they made to the world. Suck it up. It's more unreasonable for a band of Techno-Knights to hog it all to themselves and not be interested in y'know, helping civilization succeed. Lyons and the DC are a natural extension of the idea. Lyons 'treason' is addressed in the game, if you'd bother to read- because he defies orders, he is cut off from support, and almost half his men desert him to persue the Brotherhoods 'true goals'. Meanwhile, he refurbishes his membership from locals, (Lyons comments "we have enough local blood") and he IS persuing technoligy as he has a team of brothers and a scribe holding and researching the National Archives (you can go there and get a quest to bring back books)

PS: A Fallout 3 MMO could be epic, or could be horrible.

 

[chumpzilla_69]

I think some super slick, disco dancing moves wouldnt go amiss.......

oh what a perfect world that would be........ a funky.... iradiated world

This, nobody would be sad about their post-apocalyptic, no hope future.

Just think of the fun you could have.... You walk into Megaton , for the first time, and Lucas Sims runs up to you and shouts "Prepare to get yo self FONKIFIED!" Before breaking into the Running Man

 

[new_age_reject]

I think some super slick, disco dancing moves wouldnt go amiss.......

oh what a perfect world that would be........ a funky.... iradiated world

This, nobody would be sad about their post-apocalyptic, no hope future.

Just think of the fun you could have.... You walk into Megaton , for the first time, and Lucas Sims runs up to you and shouts "Prepare to get yo self FONKIFIED!" Before breaking into the Running Man

Lol the first person you see is Lucas Sims wearing flares , a chest baring top and an afro.

 

[psijac]

where is an Ironman Mod!!!!

 

[electric discordian]

Electric Discordian rekindles the dream by asking, how do your know? One statement pretty much disqualifies the other. "There not good I know because they haven't ever done it!" Hmmmm

 

[Caliostro]

Please stop referencing Yahtzee. It's not funny.

First thing's first: Did Yahtzee invent any of the words I used? I'm not aware of such. It's kind of annoying to have people tell you to stop quoting such and such because at some point they said a sentence like that... Yeah, due to sheer logic there's a limit to the possible amount of combinations possible one can do with English words. You might be unoriginal enough to copy everyone else but consider that Yahtzee did not invent these expressions and they were being used BEFORE he was famous.

Now then...

Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 were far superior games and RPGs than Fallout 3, or "Call of Duty: Capital Wasteland". Due to the fact that shooting outside of VATS ruins the point of AP and the agility stat. The Van Buren, the canceled Fallout 3 that was being made Black Isle Studios before Interplay axed them, design documents called for a real time combat system; movement would no longer cost AP, however, it would stop it from regenerating. Shooting, punching, stabbing, kicking, throwing, and item using would all cost AP, a system I find to be far superior to Bethesda's VATS.

While Fallout 3 is by no means a bad game, it's a terrible Fallout game. It severely lacks the humor and style of the previous games, never mind the difficulty or that the RPG aspect is actually important to playing your character. In Fallout 3 you canmax out the three ranged combat skills, along with repair, lockpicking, science, barter and speech if you choose your perks carefully.

Also, the world of Fallout 3 is pretty damned unbelievable. Aside from how Elder Lyons completely changed the policy of the Brotherhood, and there is still plenty of dudes to have enough split from them and form their own group, none of them seem interested in manufacturing weapons, the role of the Knights, or designing new ones or improvements (the scribes), they're all interested in using them (the Paladins). There are no farms anywhere, everyone is living off TV dinners and frozen meals from two hundred fucking years ago. Think about that for a second. Everyone is living off frozen TV dinners from two hundred years ago. How the hell does that make any sense? They would all have been eaten or rotted by the time you emerge from Vault 101. Also, it's fairly easy to filter water to remove the radiation, the super mutants have no depth, and where the hell is their supply of FEV? Fallout 1 had big giant vats of the stuff that people were dipped into. If it's Vault 87, then how the hell do they get in and how come I can't? They obviously can't take people in via the vault door as it's been slagged in place, and the radiation would deep-fry anybody trying to get in that wasn't a super mutant.

Sorry to rant like that, but don't go and insult us fans of two of the greatest RPGs ever made because you don't have the patience to sit down and think through an encounter rather than just pouring bullets at enemy until his body explodes.

Also, OP, check out Project V13. It's a Fallout MMO currently in development by Interplay.

See, there's this fallacious concept a lot of gamers seem to adopt recently: Turn based = More strategy than real time. This is incorrect. Oh I'm sure there are FPS where you can go through by holding down the fire button and walking forward, but a good real time game will require strategy. The thing is, most people who adhere to this concept won't get it because they can't do it. They're used to "turn based concept", which condescendingly stops the whole world after every attack so you can decide what to do next and not have to worry about such things as movement or aiming. In a good real time game, not only do we have to make complex strategic decisions in a split-second, we also have to consider movement AND aiming, between other factors. Our world doesn't stop for us to think about and carefully select where to shoot or what item to use. If we don't keep up, we die. We don't have to consider "AP", we have to consider shooting delay, clip capacity, damage per second vs. instant damage, bullet trajectory, etc.

Now, Fallout 3 is no means a perfect game, none is, but by jesus tits dropping "turn based" made it nothing if not incredibly better. I mean, I certainly don't see how someone who complains about incongruous details as "immersion breakers" would find turn based in any way more immersive...

That said:

- The paladins still research weapons and history, but they're also interested in helping people. Reveals a believable human side if you ask me.
- Super Mutants have depth if you bother to read through the in-game stuff. They were to be a new form of biological warfare. The perfect soldier. Unfortunately they were never perfected, only "close" specimen ever was Fawkes. Also they don't take people into Vault 87, they are a bit like a disease and can infect others by themselves (although I'll give you that this part isn't that well explained... Which is acceptable if you think about it since it's not like they have the FBI working for them... All they have is bit and pieces of pre-war info that survived). Remember Big Town? What did you think they wanted to do with the people?
- Frozen being the key word. Sure they would probably be spoiled by now, but it's not like they can afford the luxury of "better" comestibles. On the other hand, I'm sure you missed the fact they eat a LOT of "hunt". Iguana, Brahmin, Mirelurks...etc.

 

[chumpzilla_69]

I think some super slick, disco dancing moves wouldnt go amiss.......

oh what a perfect world that would be........ a funky.... iradiated world

This, nobody would be sad about their post-apocalyptic, no hope future.

Just think of the fun you could have.... You walk into Megaton , for the first time, and Lucas Sims runs up to you and shouts "Prepare to get yo self FONKIFIED!" Before breaking into the Running Man

Lol the first person you see is Lucas Sims wearing flares , a chest baring top and an afro.

The atom bomb is also a giant DISCO BALL!! Mr.Burke is trying to blow it up because he's "the man" and tring to keep you down.... Good god we need this mod........

I also think be-afro'd supermutants would look hilarious

 

[Syntax Error]

Since I'm yet to play on Very Hard, I can't request for a greater difficulty.

I guess I'd like to see a more solid clipping mechanic. I get stuck on walls and fences too often.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

You know what I find deeply interesting? The fact that Fallout 2 was recieved with much the same nay-saying by certain fanboys:

"Uuugh, it's not a real fallout game"

"Duuuuuuhhhh, blah, blah, blah"

And other such copious quantities of faecal matter, much of which I will not repeat. Fanboys, by definition, unpleaseable, as anyone who becomes a fanboy is automatically part of a dissatisfied rump, or boil of festering- well, you get the idea.


As for myself: I liked it. The Enclave, Brotherhood, Super-muties, ghouls and everything else turned up, it was appropriately bleak with the same dark humour that ran through the first two, and the 1st/3rd person experience was simply due to the fact it was more enjoyable that way.

My advice to the fanboys: Get the fuck over your problems, it's a good game, and if you cannot accept that, pray keep silent.

 

[Fatalis67]

It would be interesting if they dropped two teams of maybe 3 people in the Wasteland with just basic clothes, a pistol, and a few rounds. They have to kill each other, but there are raiders and scavengers to get gear from. So players can take over raider fortifications to use against other players. So whoever can exploit the environment wins.

 

[Jinx_Dragon]

How about climbing:
I can't say how much it annoys me when you have this 'fully exploration world' only to have to deal with things like chain fences, four foot picket fences, numerous chest high rock faces and other such things which will stop you dead in your tracks. Then you have to back track to find the path ouy, or explore around for glitch that can get you up and over the wall seeing, ironically, there actually is solid ground on top and you don't just clip through.

I know, you crew up underground but that somehow means you can't climb over that five foot box?!

 

[magicmonkeybars]

a mod that lets you accept a quest from the overseer at the beginning which lets you hunt down and kill "dad" or a mod that adds realistic dialog options.
like when npc's ask why you left the vault you can answer

"because the overseer went insane and tried to have me killed !"