The Raptor is dead.
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Because, in order to have peace, we must all be united against one enemy, or....Chiefmon said:
We could become an interdependent society, having each country offer up one thing that is extremely important and the other countries can not live without. Doing this would basically have war be a bad decision, since that country would stop exporting all of those supplies, and then would stop getting the supplies from the country it was waging war on. Tah-dah! I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO USE A GIANT EXPLODING SQUID!
Of course, terrorism might still exist (No duh) and resistance from citizens would surely occur.
Anyway...
Point is, we don't need that many fighter jets... especially with the "war" we're fighting now. Ground troops do much more than a fighter jet after all... (World War Z thinking)
Just remember, without the military protecting us, we won't NEED a health care systemaxia777 said:
I have an idea-
Instead of letting the idiots in Washington decide how to waste your money, why not set up a plan that allows the taxpayers decide where their money is going? On the tax form, just let them allocate a certain % of their money to different departments. Like defense department, health department, Dept of Interior, etc.
Why not you ask? It's quite simple: It's a terrible idea. A vast portion of the general public is populated by mouth breathing hillbillies who think "we should make a glass crater out of the whole goddamn Middle East" (their words, not mine). You really think giving those inbred morons control of spending is a good plan?j0z said:
Furthermore: You need an efficient military to protect you. Having a military which spends 1.75 billion dollars on 7 jets which you probably won't even use - while you still have other jets at your disposal which also aren't getting used - is not smart spending.
Those "idiots" in Washington appear to know a lot more than you. If they're so stupid, how come they're in positions of power and you're playing Armchair Politicians with me on an internet forum?
While your Soapbox is well intentioned it's not like the Raptors are going away. We're just not building anymore. We currently have 187 Raptors that aren't even being used.
As far as cutting B-2's we actually use our B-2s...we don't use the Raptors anywhere near as much. Hence why we still produce B-2's. And about the subs, don't go expecting we cut those anytime soon seeing as how a majority of our ready to fire nukes are onboard submarines.
As far as cutting B-2's we actually use our B-2s...we don't use the Raptors anywhere near as much. Hence why we still produce B-2's. And about the subs, don't go expecting we cut those anytime soon seeing as how a majority of our ready to fire nukes are onboard submarines.
Actually the only "animals" that deibirately kill their own kind are... Humans.xxhazyshadowsxx said:
When Al-Queda attack in their high tech jet fighters Obama will be sorry! War is different now, this kind of tech is meaningless.
Be thankful that Obama has the balls not to waste all your tax payers money on useless one-trick poneys that will spend their life locked up in a hanger somewhere. The UK armed forces are crying out for essential equipment, helicopters etc but we've spunked all the money on a cool but ultimately pointless new fighter.
Be thankful that Obama has the balls not to waste all your tax payers money on useless one-trick poneys that will spend their life locked up in a hanger somewhere. The UK armed forces are crying out for essential equipment, helicopters etc but we've spunked all the money on a cool but ultimately pointless new fighter.
You dont spend money on world peace, money is basically useless or atleast will be.Before we can have world peace we have to fix our own problems especially the USA which is majorly run by the banks not the president(which btw is unnesessary).To achieve some world peace we must rely on technology, better technology.Chiefmon said:
work = slavery
profit = evil
Technology = freedom(and less pollution)
money = dept
dept = money
.....if everyone payed off all their depts including the government their would be no money ,then how will you pay back the interest the monetary system is set up to fail you will always be in dept.
I love the way that you think that the majority of the American population is a bunch of inbred hilbillies. I know it is a typical European belief, but we ARE NOT all inbred retarded hilbillies. And just because we are not a bunch of pacifists doesn't mean that we are not are all a bunch of warmongers.Amnestic said:
True, we might not use the jets, they may never see the air except on normal training missions, but what if, god forbid, we did need them, and we didn't have them?
I don't think we should go out looking for a fight, but we definitely need to be ready if someone takes the fight to us.
The odd part of his pronouncement is that he is basically saying that we don't need more technology to keep the nation safe. What he is not saying is that the alternative he's chosen is human fodder...why spend money on airplanes when we have a relatively cheap supply of troops to throw into conflict. Kind of messed up.
It is not paranoia, it is called being prepared.Blanemcc said:
So what is wrong with us being prepared for the worst? It has kept us very safe so far. We have a right to be wary since we stand for everything that the terrorists dispise, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Gentlemen, need I remind you that the paranoid gun-nuts and the inbred hicks stereotype of Americans have both been done to death. Pray, find someone better to laugh at. You could start with the snot-nosed lefties, for a start (saying this as something of a hard-nosed bastard of a lefty). There's just so much more mileage in that.
Axia - cool it. Flames are bad for the forum-groove.
Axia - cool it. Flames are bad for the forum-groove.
If the world became interdependant, then one country would decide it didn't like that they were dependant one the other one and would go to war to take over said country. As long as they won, they would not have to worry about that country not importing things as they control it and decide how to appropriate its resources. It would then have a monopoly on power as it would be in control of 2 of these "vvital2 things other countries coul not do without. They would attempt to blackmail the other nations into doing what they wanted.Mercanary57 said:
In order to stop this, the other countries would have to fight and win a war to ensure a constant supply.
This would also not change anything in terms of ideoligical factors. Sometimes a nation may decide thats its neighbours ideology is too different to their own and "wrong" and this overrides potential backlash of losing resources from this country.
Things would basically be how they are now with people ging to war over ideological factors and resources.
And back on topic.
The F22 Raptor is a truly exceptional fighter. Far superior to anything anyone else has. But right now it isnt needed. Not only that, i fail to see how 7 could make that much of a difference.
The money that they save should be spent on better equipment for the troops, better pay for them and for domestic reform that America is sorely in need of in areas such as education and healthcare.
Europe and Russia would beg to differ, EMF.
On the Super Hornett - No matter how much 'Super' is packed on, no matter how much they update the avionics and the weapons, the fact remains the airframe is that of a 30-year old aircraft, as is the engine. It is, in essence, a 30-year old plane.
On the Super Hornett - No matter how much 'Super' is packed on, no matter how much they update the avionics and the weapons, the fact remains the airframe is that of a 30-year old aircraft, as is the engine. It is, in essence, a 30-year old plane.
