manaman said:
Unreliable said:
1) America doenst have the money to play Empire anymore - I dont care whether you are right or left, your broke, and your military empire with hundeds of bases all over the world and retarded idea of full spectrum dominance is responsible for more than half your debt and deficit. The American Empire is finished, and we will likely be heading into a more multipolar world.
2) America has lost the war on terror. What good is a radar-invisible plane when your biggest threat (Terrorists) dont know what radar is?! America has city-vaporizing bombs, but their enemies live in caves. America spends trillions on the latest in technological weapons, but they cant defeat an enemy that uses old AKs, rocks, and little girls that strap bombs to their chests and run on crowded buses. Yes, terrorists dont fight fair, but when America has helicopters and nukes, you cant exactly expect them to line up with their muskets, now can you?
3) This trillion dollar oil raid into Iraq had fiasco written over it from the start (and, yes, we told you so), and now that it has alienated America's closest allies, made it hated around the world, resulted in disaster, ballooned the debt, killed thousands of innocent lives, and otherwise pulverized a developing nation. Most of all, it has been a terrorists wet dream - America has given terrorists more recruits than ever before, with extra motivation, while all your resources are bogged down in an unwinnable quagmire.
4) If war ever broke with Russia or China, the F-22 aint gonna make the difference, because you will be blasting one another with so many nukes that fighter jets will be irrelevant.
In short, America's military is obsolete, bloated, and useless in the age of nukes and terror.
Your post is so full of bloat I bet it would float if I threw it in a river.
No point in arguing the validly of what you said. You have no idea if what you said was true or not, you just repeated your favorite anti-America slogans you have been hearing.
Everything I said was true:
1) American military budget: a bloated runaway that is responsible for 50% of your debt and larger than any 15 other countries combined; with expensive military bases all over the world.
http://www.truemajority.org/images/Pie2.jpg
http://www.truemajority.org/csba/chan_r2.pdf
http://schema-root.org/military/budget/military_spending_us_vs_world.gif
http://allisonkilkenny.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/800px-us_military_bases_in_the_world_2007.png
And if you dont think that your in debt, you must be on Mars.
2) You failed to catch Osama Bin Laden. You've killed many terrorists, but have created far more than you have killed. Iraq is an unwinnable war. Afganistan is a rugged wasteland that has been at constant war for 1000 years, and somehow you think you can bring about peace with more guns.
3) Iraq: No Al-Queda ties (Lie #1), no WMDs (Lie #2), not a threat (Lie #3), no yellowcake (Lie #4)... I could go on. America lost the moral high ground by launching an evil and unnecesary war; and it the words of H.L. Mecken, honor is something you lose exactly once. I really want to be cheering on America, but for those of us in the rest of the world, its getting harder and harder to find the things that seperate you from the bad guys. I mean your democracy is clearly bought and paid for, and have had at least one fraudulent election in the recent past. America isn't the freest country, you wiretap your own citizens without warrant, put more of your own people in jail than any other country (per capita, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States ) - mostly the poor for trivial 'crimes' like drug possession, you torture (seriously), and the country is ignorant (1 in 4 dont realize that the Eart revolves around the sun http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/10D2398F-CE57-457A-B53A-E45CB3BB72FF/ , half of Americans dont beleive in Evolution http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/12127 ). Oh, and Iraqi civilian casualties: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
I maintain that the American people are good people and the crimes are those of your government, corporations, and military industrial complex. But when nearly half of Americans seem to be in full support of the very people that started the Iraq war (and ready to elect a creationist evangelical Alaskan crusader with the IQ of a turnip) its hard to get aboard the America bandwagon.
4) And, yes, I maintain that an F-22 wont be of much help when nations are lobbing ICBMs at one another.
