I know but it was an easy example to get across the point. Apparently I didn't make that too clear though.Dango said:
Cillian Murphy is a beautiful man.Genixma said:Colour-Scientist said:
The Rise of the "Man-*****"
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Aaaaaand, I think this calls for a [/thread].Eomega123 said:
Well said.
In answer to OP's question, do I enjoy anything feminine...
...Mean Girls is manly, right?
That and Glee, since it's for some reason considered feminine.
I get why you used the image, what I meant is I don't have a problem with men acting feminine, I just have a problem with men thinking they need to where ridiculous looking clothing or actually look like a girl in order to be feminine.Colour-Scientist said:
men do not have a "feminine side" qualities like kindness, compassion etc. which in modern times have been lumped into the category "feminine" are not exclusive to women. as such i do not believe that men can have a "feminine side" as these qualities usually described with the term are neither antithetical to masculinity nor exclusiely feminine. i am, personally, slightly offended that women seem to wish to claim all positive emotions as "feminine" whilst relagating most negative emotions as "masculine"
in reference to OP on men dressing like women. i dont have too much of a problem with it, if those guys want to turn in their 'nads then its their call.
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in reference to OP on men dressing like women. i dont have too much of a problem with it, if those guys want to turn in their 'nads then its their call.
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Wear whatever the hell you want, just don't expect me to wear something uncomfortable as hell because it's the style.
Function is more important than form, the function of my clothes being not constricting my nuts.
My point being, wear whatever the fuck you want, but I reserve the right to think you look like a moron.
If men aren't wearing makeup and powder wigs as a sign of affluence, then we aren't all that feminized.
Function is more important than form, the function of my clothes being not constricting my nuts.
My point being, wear whatever the fuck you want, but I reserve the right to think you look like a moron.
If men aren't wearing makeup and powder wigs as a sign of affluence, then we aren't all that feminized.
Humanity adjusts to his environment.
In this man ***** case. There is no need to do manual labor, thus the framey physique. And his biological purpose to mate, is gained through different means, i.e being metrosexual, and approaching women in other different ways.
It's the sort of environment we made, so we must reek the downsides of it. Because this is the human adaptation of our man made environment.
In this man ***** case. There is no need to do manual labor, thus the framey physique. And his biological purpose to mate, is gained through different means, i.e being metrosexual, and approaching women in other different ways.
It's the sort of environment we made, so we must reek the downsides of it. Because this is the human adaptation of our man made environment.
Yes, you explained it later, but it's not what you said in the beginning.Father Time said:
Calling someone ugly and berating them for being effeminate, and when you get called out on it, covering your ass by trying to make it seem like you really are open minded, again, does NOT absolve you of what you originally said.
If I called a woman a *****, and someone told me that's an awful thing to say, and then I respond with "Well she was being mean to me boohoo," not only is my reasoning just an excuse to feel good about calling her a *****, but I'm STILL calling her that and insulting her.
So yeah, you explained "what you meant" quite clearly, and I read it all. Doesn't mean I'm okay with your earlier statements now, all it says to me is that you're trying to backtrack and cover your ass to justify that you were totally in the right for saying that in the first place, and you weren't.
It doesn't bother me in a masculine way at all, I just don't think it looks good. I don't think men should wear scarves or cardigans. Not because it might be considered feminine but because it just looks stupid.
I personally wear nothing but skinny jeans, band t-shirts and a leather jacket and have had people tell me I look like a dick. Fair enough. I still think cardigans (which are really fashionable right now) look fucking stupid.
I personally wear nothing but skinny jeans, band t-shirts and a leather jacket and have had people tell me I look like a dick. Fair enough. I still think cardigans (which are really fashionable right now) look fucking stupid.
I generally wear an .2 micron air filter face mask, gel gloves, a full gjert blackout coat and jeans / combat shorts and backpack when i go out shopping
but then i am a cyclist and remotely logical
I personally don't believe in fashion or masculine / feminine clothes
what I believe is you're all small clouds of stardust caught in a strangely particular logical entropy and what your exterior shell of electrons reflects is irrelevant as long as you get the job done
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you answer to yourself, wear what you like.
but then i am a cyclist and remotely logical
I personally don't believe in fashion or masculine / feminine clothes
what I believe is you're all small clouds of stardust caught in a strangely particular logical entropy and what your exterior shell of electrons reflects is irrelevant as long as you get the job done
end-of-the-day
you answer to yourself, wear what you like.
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Ha I agree, while everyone has the right to dress as they want etc, I think a man looks silly dressing like, though it isn't so bad if they are gay. Me though, I'm a masculine man and that doesn't mean I go around acting like a douche, starting fights, or obsessing over boobs like some people think (often those who want to "get in touch" with their feminine side), that means I'm honest and dress modestly, judge things for their function, stand my ground in an argument and protect women and children if need be. Also helps that I love meat and alcohol too ;-)dogstile said:
It depends. If they were all-the-way cross-dressers, then whatever. If they were gay, well I can't make jokes to gay people I'm not friends with without being racist/sexist/gay-ist/white or whatever you would call that now. So I'll save those for when I talk to them, later.
While straight dudes can be slightly not so macho nowadays, If one of my dude-friends walked up to me in a skirt I would kick him in his hanging, unprotected balls. Just saying.
While straight dudes can be slightly not so macho nowadays, If one of my dude-friends walked up to me in a skirt I would kick him in his hanging, unprotected balls. Just saying.
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No, what you originally said was, and I quote YOUR words-
"Ok everyone around him now has license to make fun of this man for the way he dresses."
You promoted abuse to a man for the way he dresses. There's no getting around what you said, you directly stated he should be harassed for the way he dresses.
It doesn't matter if the outfit was ugly or it was the most horrendous thing you've ever seen in your life, it's not YOUR life, it's his.
If that were some guy really dressing like that in every day life, as opposed to just a model, you would be promoting verbal and potentially even physical violence against the effeminate man.
As a transgender myself, I was pissed, and I still am that you're trying to justify it.
The great irony is the guy in the picture probably earns more, has a more active romantic life and is generally happier than anyone posting in this thread, myself included. Let people dress how they like.
I totally agree with you, I don't understand why so many positive traits and attitudes are considered so antithetical to masculinity. There's no such thing as masculine or feminine in any concrete sense, it's just what we've decided women should do and men should do. If people want to break that mold then more power to them! I'm a very plain looking guy and I don't dress up at all but I love wearing tights and women's clothes on occasion, like when I go to concerts or the drag shows around the area. I don't care if people dress in their traditional modes of clothing, although I must admit that I find both sexes more attractive in their "own" clothing styles. But that's just me!The_Graff said: