The school bully's little brother problem. I.E The I'm screwed either way problem

[Sacman]

So what... my brother was a hard ass in high school too, but he was also a huge dick to me... so chances are even if he goes whining to his brother he won't do anything...<.<

 

[similar.squirrel]

Loudly proclaim that the kid is a coward every time he annoys you. It would seem that most people are on your side anyway, and he should desist due to humiliation.

 

[Dogstile]

You're from the UK?

Me too! Smack him in the face.

No seriously. His brother wants to start on you? Explain why you did it first. If he insists on fighting, hit him in the face.

What, my solutions are simple

 

[Megacherv]

Tell a teacher, but if you go to a school that does nothing about bullying, like 100% of all schools, tell his big "bad" brother to tell his brother to stop botherin you. Now if the big brother is a meat head, like it sounds like he is, and says no.... then it looks like someone is gonna have to get thier shit ripped.

Sorry, just thought I'd correct that for you

They do NOTHING I tell you! It's all a conspiracy!

But in all seriousness, just tell someone, and if it doesn't stop, nag at them until they surrender.

 

[justnotcricket]

I suppose it really depends on two things:

a)how much the bully likes his little brother

b) how willing you are to bet that if you beat the kid up he doesn't go running straight to the staff and ruin your reputation in a way you perhaps hadn't anticipated.

Personally, I'd echo the people in this thread who've advocated seeking the help of a teacher or the principal. This kid isn't worth the trouble of either getting into trouble for hurting him, or getting hurt by his brother (+ friends)

 

[Gutkrusha]

I'm my experience, the only way to deal with a bully is to prove you can stand up to them. Most only care about keeping people controlled and scared of them, the second you start fighting back (well, I mean.), they get bored or avoid you.

Honestly how I dealt with the bully from my youth? I fought dirty. The tried to hit me one day and I kicked him in the junk. He called me a pussy, so I kicked him in the junk again. His 'posse' came up and I kicked them/hit them with whatever I could wherever I could. Throat, nuts, shins. Whatever.

Who cares about reputations? They mean nothing in school. If you get attacked by this kid, rearrange his babymaker with your shoe. His brother comes up with his friends? Do the same goddamned thing. You might get your ass beat, sure, but no one likes being kicked in the balls, and once they realize you're up for doing it to them, they'll probably avoid you.

Yes this seems like some kind of joke post, but i'm not joking. I solved my bully problems in middle school by knowing how to kick someone in the balls.

Also, Dogstile's post is pretty good, too.

 

[Wintermoot]

pick up the younger brother and use him like a baseball bat to beat up the older brother.

you have just made my day

 

[red the fister]

go to the cops. fucker assaulted you. repeatedly. in front of witnesses.

 

[Folksoul]

Molotiv his house? Bring a knife? Alert the adults in charge so that he can be supervised at school so that if he starts anything it can be shut down before anyone gets hurt? Use a Death Note? Restraining order? Hide under your bed screaming about invisible brain monsters that make you stay home from school?

The choice is yours. I'd go/have gone with the third option myself. Remember to bring character witnesses for yourself and the bully. If they see that you are legitimately scared, and have real-life examples of bulling he has done, they will take you A LOT more seriously.

Sarcasm aside, I've been where you are. It sucks. If you have enough people on your side the faculty can't ignore you claim.

Good luck.

 

[dvd_72]

I say try to reason with both, in public. People will see you tried to solve the mess peacefully, but they kept pushing, so you had no choice.

 

[Codeknight]

Honestly, the best (though most painful for you) thing you could do for everyone is do nothing aggressive to either of them but make the point clear with the brothers that you want them to lay off. Have someone there (hiding maybe) off to the side to record any happenings so you can get the kid in Juvy. Not going to lie, it will suck, but from the sounds of it everyone at your school will be great full and and there's no shame in turning him in. Need some inspiration? Watch "Gran Torino." Heh semi joke there.

 

[TAGM]

Well, clearly this isn't something that can be totally solved with violence, so perhaps it would be prudent to try diplomacy.
The kid clearly has an issue with you, so the first thing would be to ask what beef he has with you. Then, if he actualy gives you a responce past "you're a fuckwit", act on his information. You don't necceceraly have to change your attitude, personality or general demeaner - you just have to act like you have around him.

Admitidly, it isn't exacaly flawless, seeing that it's working only under the assumption that the kid isn't being a little shit because he can, but I think it might be a better idea then kicking the kid's face in.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

As pleasing as the idea of 'justice' is, doing permanent damage to either brother is going to mess YOUR life up for good, in terms of a criminal record.

Firstly I'd try to get the older brother alone and let him know his younger brother is using him as a shield, it's possible he doesn't even know, and less likely but still possible that he won't want to be his little brother's 'private army'.

Next, find the right teacher/principal/headmaster to tell, explain the situation calmly and thoroughly, and if nothing gets done, then, at least you've done the right and can say 'I went thru all the correct channels, I reported the threats, nothing was done, and he's now in the first aid room bleeding because I had to defend myself after I gained no assistance of any kind after I requested it.' when you finally snap and take a shot at the big brother.

So long as you do some damage to him, even if you 'lose', it means you can then pin the little one up against the wall, and let him know that if he's gonna keep on being a dick, he's a LOT easier to deal with than his bro, and you've already handled him.

 

[Kavic86]

Here is what I say you do, get a few of your friends and beat the living hell out of the little brother and his older brother and there friends. Also ware a cup (something to protect your balls) also do what my grandpa use to say, use a persuader. That is use anything you get your hands on to beat the living hell out of them.

Also make an example out of the little fuck, break a bone or two. As for the brother, find his ass after school and beat the living hell out of him that way you beat him to the punch and he either tries to get you back or you break enough bones to were he leaves you alone.

 

[Engarde]

I was once bullied in high school. I'm afraid I can't offer much advice, but it ended for me when he picked a fight with him and a friend and me and a friend. I didn't want to, but the situation was beyond my control. I really didnt want to. We had a scrap, but afterwads, he always acted friendly (well, his version of friendly) to me and my friend.

 

[Verlander]

I'd consider using school time to work on poor grammar and paragraph construction, instead of fighting.

Jokes, continue with daily life, and keep brushing off this little kid. Soon everyone will be fed up of him and his thinly veiled threats, and someone else will do the dirty work for you. Grass him up that is, not beat him up

 

[Wilko316]

Last week I was walking down one of my Highschool's hallways joking with friends when a kid of around twelve barged into me expecting me to be the one to give way but he did and fell onto the ground, the kid defended his honour with "You do that again and I'll smash your fucking face in!" Me and my friends are fifteen so we just laughed at this and carried on wakling. The next day the kid approachs me and asks for a fight me and my friends even the girls laughed at this and slightly goaded him asking him what was he going to do? and pretending sarcasticaly to be scared. To which his friend said "Do you know who his fucking brother is?!" I appeared thoughtful for a moment and replied "Ha, No and unless it's Hitler I don't care." but it turns out his brother was, I feel childish saying this "but hardest in the year" and not in a sexual way. His brother is in my year and is the sort of guy who would beat you to a pulp for looking at you funny. They had a grudge with this other kid that they didn't let go untill he was beaten to a pulp and probably a sign of this families intelligence and forgot about it over the summer break. The worst part is yesterday he came up to me again in front of a friend of mine and infront of a girl who I have a thing going with and started hitting me with a stick while his brother and his gang watch from afar so I grabbed the stick and snapped it and pushed the boy at which point his brother and his 'gang' stood up, so I turned around. The kid than started harrasing me and when I turned around hit me and ran at which point alot of people were watching I tried to laugh it off infront of everyone.

So basicaly first I don't want to hit a kid three years younger than me and If I did his brother and his brother's friends would be on my case. Although I am not the most popular at my school, I have a good thing going for myself but this is starting to rub of badly on my reputation and if you don't have a good reputation at highschool your life can become hell, so escapists what do I do?


EDIT: I would like to outline two points just ignoring it and hoping it dies down is a option it does very bad things to my reputation in the mean time also I could probably take the older boy but he isn't someone you want to mess with he holds grudes to the extent him and his friends have assulted a guy from behind before while he wasn't looking and basicaly took turns to beat him to a pulp.

Also this kid despite his brothers reputation is not well known around school so If people heard I beat up a kid alot younger than me they will see him as the victim because they don't know how much of a douche he is.

Ever considered apologising to the little kid?
You'll look like the bigger man if you just say sorry for being a bit of a douche, you don't have to mean it really but if they think you mean it he'll leave you alone.
I've done the whole high school thing, I'm in 6th form now, just trust me if you apologise to the kid and his brother they'll respect you for it. You don't have to mean it but you can still let them think you mean it.

 

[Nova Helix]

...me and my friends are fifteen...
...just ignoring it and hoping it dies down is a option it does very bad things to my reputation...

You're 15 "reputation" is a figment of your imagination. What people think of you in High school doesn't matter.

 

[sycoesis]

go to the brother explain to him the situation and ask for help if hes reasonable he will help deal with the brother if hes not use his brothers well being as a ransom to get them both off your back