The school bully's little brother problem. I.E The I'm screwed either way problem

[Pointer]

Do what Ender did. Beat the ever living shit out of him in front of this friends. Kick him when he's down. All that jazz. Then make a threat that even if he gets his brother in on this, even if he gets all his little shits together to beat on you, one day you will find the other kids alone and wail on them like there is no tomorrow. The problem with that is you have to make good on your promise and you look like a ruthless bastard.

The way I dealt with this when I was 13 was to Suplex the guy by the head. Didn't bother me ever again.

 

[courtjester13]

I personally wouldn't care about the whole grudge thing. a bully never stops until they have been humbled. When you are backed into a corner ... and you have exhausted all other options you don't have any choice , you have to attack

 

[Beastialman]

So he's my recommendation. Buy a wrench, not some machine made wrench from today's time. Those just look silly and don't have that good of a handle. Buy something that looks like this.



Of course if there are rumors that the bully is a vampire I'd suggest buying a rope wrench.



First they'll laugh "oh lul he bought a wrench, what you go up to the Homodepo and buy some butthammers for you and your dad." Rest assured when you pull something like this...



... they'll immediately wet themselves out of the pure psychological trauma that comes with fighting a man with a huge antique wrench.

 

[Cliff_m85]

Take on the big kid.

Seriously, your rep will go up. Don't back down. Guys fight, once you fight, it's over. Give yourself a prep on the internet, learn some moves and shit, and be ready to get hurt.

Think Fight Club. And from the sounds of it, you're the kinda guy I like, so yeah.

Also if the little kid gives you shit, wreck him. Little fucker needs to be put in his place, and nobody's gonna blame you for it.

People who watch Fight Club and then feel the urge to fight are COMPLETELY missing the point. Just like potheads that tell people to watch "Requiem for a Dream".

It's public school. His petty drama means nothing to his actual life. Ignore the two kids, I'd suggest.

 

[bob1052]

EDIT: I would like to outline two points just ignoring it and hoping it dies down is a option it does very bad things to my reputation

With all due respect, you're only 15. You don't need to worry about your reputation. Unless you live in a town of 100 and plan to stay there, any good or bad reputation you make with your peers as a whole won't matter in the slightest in five years.

Don't get yourself killed and don't get yourself arrested. Anything else is unimportant.

 

[Squilookle]

It worked, largely because after I'd pushed the guy through the window I went up to him and actually said right into his ear that if he ever fucked with me again I'd make sure it was a second story window.

Wow. I mean, violence is bad etc etc, but that moment there sounds so freakin badass.

Also OP, can you update us on what you eventually decide to do, and how it plays out?

 

[Jaded Scribe]

Don't know if anyone else has pointed this out (didn't see any on the first page), but your "rep" isn't going to mean shit in... what, 3 years (I'm assuming you're a freshman)?

Just shrug it off. Ignore it. Don't give in to the bullying. Don't risk things like assault charges and expulsion.

Your life will not turn so bad if you refuse to give into this crap that it will be unbearable. Plenty of people make it through just fine with far worse. Stay firm, make it clear that you find this kid's behavior unacceptable, then walk away.

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

I may have a slightly narrow minded view of these situations seeing as I fight until I die or my enemy flees. In any case, I would fight the lot of them. If they wish a fight and bring it upon you then stand up to them, never give an inch. He has friends, a gang? You have friends too. If they are truly your friends they will stand by you till the end. Gather some courage and if he tries to beat on you beat him right back.

 

[NotYetForsaken]

Here's what I did when this happened: Told a teacher, told the school, school told the authorities, I got a license for using a weapon in self-defence.

No matter how big his brother is, a Tazer still trumps him.

 

[Judgement101]

School shooting? JOKING JOKING, DO NOT TAKE SERIOUSLY!

Just ignore the younger brother, he is clearly just using his brother as leverage against you. If there is nothing to use the leverage for then it is basicaly useless.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Stand up the badass ************ and be prepared for a wild brawl.

Theres no shame in getting your ass kicked so long as the spirit remains undefeated.

 

[retrofish18]

Try to imagine the bully in the your school. He gets his first look at you as you enter a hallway. You move like a bird, lightly. And he keeps still because he doesn't think you would do anything to a large fellow like him - you're just going to walk on by. But no, not You. You stare at him, and he just stares right back. And that's when the attack comes. Not from the front, but from the side. From your two friends he didn't even know were there. Because you should be a pack hunter, you see, use coordinated attack patterns and such. And you jump at him with your fist and feet. You won't try to end this fight quickly... no no. You punch at him here... or here... or maybe across the belly, winding him. The point is... is going to know what hits him. So you know... he will start to show a little respect.


Jurassic park jokes aside, I would advise going to some sort of authority in your school or out side of it so this dispute can be settled peacefully.

 

[Tdc2182]

To a less violent extent, you think you could try reasoning with them, or try the authorities?

From what I hear, he is trying to avoid social suicide. Involving the authorities is one of those things that you just don't do.

OT: I guess fight the older brother. Running away is a huge no.

 

[SeanTheSheep]

*Sigh*
As a teacher, I can say that oh-so-many of these people's advice will get you suspended, or excluded, depending on how far things go.

Telling a teacher or figure of authority is your number one priority, because that way, if nothing is done, and things deteriorate, meaning you get the shit kicked out of you, they know that the kid was giving you trouble, and threatening you with his brother. Also, if things go south but you beat them up, they won't be able to claim against you effectively.
Things should get done though. If they don't, you have a legitimate cause to bring it up with the board of governors or whoever the head answers to in your school.

Along with telling a figure of authority, quietly tell the older brother that the little arse is giving you trouble, and while you don't want to be forced to fuck him up, if he keeps going, then you're sorry, but the shit was asking for it. Hopefully, he won't do anything should the kid get on your nerves enough that you are forced to resort to violence, which I stress, should be done as a last resort, if at all.

 

[creonto]

probably not the best idea but if worst comes to worst start carrying a bat around. Don't hurt anyone with it necessarily, but, i mean really, who would mess with a guy with a bat?
if you cant carry a bat around then take up kendo and keep your kendo staff/stick/sword nearby whenever possible as you would have a more legitimate reason for it.

also, involving a teacher might work but from my experience teachers love the bullies and assholes and think they are wondrous angels.

 

[brodie21]

well, my dad says to call attention to the little kids behavior, like saying in a loud voice that you are being physically/verbally assaulted. the teachers are legally obligated to intervene, and you should also tell someone about it.

my advice is that if he hits you again, wreck his shit, its only going to get worse. the kid needs a good beating. if you get jumped by his brother, just try to hold your own. as for the little kid, im saying one good punch to the nose should do it. if he is like i think he is then he isnt used to being really hit. and, you could also get your own group of large friends

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

Not get into this problem in the first place? Just sayin'.

 

[creonto]

Not get into this problem in the first place? Just sayin'.

he didnt start it. the little kid started picking on him the OP did nothing.

 

[Neonit]

call the cops. no, im serious. call the cops. that what my friend did. if i recall correctly they still have a few years "to go" in "correction facility". why? because school wont do sh*t. schools only act when it will really get out of the hand. and you dont want this to get out the hand. nobody cant be on their guard at all times, and if he really wants to make your life miserable, he will. and it will be worse the longer you let him do it. just dont be stupid enough to start carrying a weapon around.....

edit: besides, if the cops wont do a thing, and something happens, you can always say that you DID ask for help.

 

[KaiRai]

Take the beating. Hell what can you do?

Except seek revenge in the form of an unprovoked an vicious attack. Or let him push you around a little and land a wilfully unexpected punch. Kid who tried to bully me kicked me in the face, whilst I was just sitting down, and then proceeded to poke my sandwiches with a pen. To which when he laughed I stood up and punch him in the face, fracturing the area around his eye socket. A scrap broke out and which point he floored me and stamped on my head. Feeling dazed at best I landed one in the stomach, a knee in the face and rained kicks down on him till I was dragged away screaming "I'll kill you you little prick"

Got me a week out of school but he never even looked at me in the wrong way again. Least not because he had some sort of headgear on from the whole fractured eye socket.

Bottom line? He's just a kid who can't take you without his friends. Catch him by surprise and beat the living shit out of him. Then his brother. Kids who use "My brother is hard" as a get out clause for doing what they want need their heads kicked in.

Secondary school wasn't my favourite place, co-incidentally.