The terrible treatment of women in the latest Tomb Raider game
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Bullcrap. People were upset because the assassin squad were OOOOO SEXY NUNS with leather hooker boots and thongs and was completely fucking inane.Eve Charm said:
First of all, no the trailer was CG there were no real actors in it at all. Secondly, yeah the controversy had nothing to do with women dying and was more about the weird nun fetish gear and tonal shifts compared to previous Hitman titles.Eve Charm said:
Previous Hitman games had levels that took place in S&M clubs and other places, and very much featured sexualized content in a lot of its titles. The actual enemies and fighting were still generally grounded in reality though, so some people saw the latex nuns as a weird shift that served no other purpose than yelling, "Look at how sexy these women are, the only reason they got undressed in the parking lot was to titillate the audience!".
Honestly, a little overblown in the end, but yeah, the controversy had nothing to do with killing female enemies.
Because a single game where dudes are beat up by a woman is every bit as bad as a systematic preclusion of women from noteworthy roles in games.erttheking said:
As is the case even with the protagonists of the Tomb Raider game. In fact, Lara's still led around by the nose by guys for a good chunk of the game.Phasmal said:
To be fair, maybe it was social commentary on the exclusionary nature of women and sea travel, given many mariners are still superstitious about women on ships....
Nah, it's just lazy writing.
...Ma'am! *raises hand* I think I ruined this batch...My necklace came out all wrong!Ok, then. It's cause evil feminists want to steal your testicles.
We're making necklaces out of them.
Someone just posted lists in one of the other fifty five threads on gender/women/sexism/Anita active on The Escapist right now, and the lists included like fifteen major female protagonists and a much longer list of women as villains. Perhaps the lack of a crusade for more women villains might come down to the fact that they're already more represented.JaymesFogarty said:
Increase the number of female protagonists, and the others will likely follow. Women serve predominantly as victims in gaming, however, which means that they are generally considered unsuitable for basic threats. Since you've brought up Anita Sarkeesian, later videos include addressing elements of female villains. They're probably not what you're looking for, but it's far from unilateral.
The problem, as it is, is that you're unlikely to see anyone call specifically for more female villains in games. Not only are the more represented than serious heroines, I doubt people specifically want to see more chicks for male heroes to potentially abuse.
If this strikes you as unfair, that's all the more reason to look towards gender equality.
Assuming both sides start on equal footing, which is not the case.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
you know, maybe it was the actual presentation of the game and not the fact that they were women that was at issue. By controversy, you do worse to women in Saints Row 3 and nobody really complained.Eve Charm said:
Yeah I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but we just solved gender inequality. Don't know why it's taking everyone else so long. Nobel prizes all around.lacktheknack said:
Am I the only one who thought the relationship in Forest Gump was inappropriate as is? Your point is still valid though and I think it's interesting. I wonder if anyone has done a sociological experiment with this. You could find tons of famous scenes, flip the genders of the two actors, and see if people still view those scenes in the same way. It might be a good way to gauge how much we value traditional gender roles.Bestival said:
To be honest I dislike seeing women killed in any form of media (unless they have been purposely made out as being VERY bitchy/evilHawkeye21 said:
), especially in my beloved art mediums like anime. I guess it's a tool that writers can use to have an emotional impact, at least on people like me and you. For example introducing a female character, characterizing her to be cheerful/loving/etc, throwing her into the main conflict...and then the baddie comes along and kills her. I'm like "FFFFFFFUUUU WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT, SHE WAS INNOCENT YOU BASTARD" and I feel really sad inside. If she's been characterized well enough and is someone who means a great deal to the hero/protagonist, I usually cry because we'll never get to see her be happy with him
It's normal to feel sad when anyone you sympathize with dies, but it's especially powerful for me if it's a female.
I think I cried half a gallon of tears when Shirley died in Lelouch's arms
While their aren't enough female characters in the latest Tomb Raider.. I should point out, that the one who was in charge of the island, all of it's inhabitants and was revered as absolute ruler was a women.. not a man.. meaning a female was in charge of everything, thus lessening the idea that females weren't represented enough in the game.. true it could have been better, but it wasn't that bad. and at the end of the day it was just a game.. designed to be fun and interesting.. it was both, so it doesn't matter as much.