The Third Batman Film in the Nolanverse *SPOILERS*

[geminired]

Bane would be perfect. I know people are afraid of using characters from the Michael Keaton - Val Kilmer - George Clooney series, but screw that, Nolan isn't.

It should be Bane and Black Mask vs Batman. And it shouldn't be Robin, it should Batgirl. Introduce Barbara Gordon. It could work very easily, I think, just have her come back from college or university or whatever, and be inspired by Batman and her Father. Bane should definitely break the Bat, which forces him to rely on Batgirl, overcoming any earlier opposition to her aid (and teaching him that Batman can't always work alone, something already known to the comics).

Also, it sets up nicely a fourth film, in which you could introduce Harley Quinn and the Joker again (now given a suitable waiting period following Ledger's death for a new actor to play him) which is one of the most twisted relationships in comics, so that they could cripple Barbara Gordon.


You can't do Clayface for the Third Batman movie. Otherwise you'll draw comparisons to Spiderman 3 and Sandman.

Bane would be a good choice. It would be nice to see Bane portrayed more accurately than he was in the god awful Batman & Robin film. I don't think Nolan would use Clayface for 2 reasons: 1. I'm not confident he could carry the film. 2. Nolan doesn't appear the type to rely on CG too often, and with Clayface it would require a lot.

Nolan seems to go for the psychological villains. In the regard I do think Scarface and the Dummy or the Mad Hatter is feasible as well. I'd love to see Freeze done properly too, but I doubt Nolan will take that road.

As for who could play Bane.....well anyone big and bulky could pull it off. The question is who could do it well. I do think Nolan painted himself into a corner with this film. Even if the third film is great, I still have this nagging suspicion that I will walk out thinking "Good film, but it's no Dark Knight" Still if he can pull off the third significantly better than his predecessors did with Spiderman 3 or Xmen 3, I will be happy.

 

[LesIsMore]

I hate robin. Always have since the phrase Jiminy-Jillickers Batman! (spelling?)

Wasn't that Fallout Boy?

I have no clue as I detest Fallout Boy. Maybe it is and I heard that from a friend but that phrase just sticks in my head. I hated all of robins little 'Holy shit'-esque phrases

No, not the band Fallout Boy, but in "The Simpsons" the hero Radioactive Man has a sidekick named Fallout Boy who has that slogan. There's an episode where they film the Radioactive Man film in Springfield and Milhouse gets cast as Fallout Boy - and now I feel old since I remember when the show was actually good.

 

[7dollarbill]

I figured it was gonna be Two-face.

Well, I thought he died. Even if he didn't die, he'd be in jail big time for what he did to Gordon's family.

True, but villains and heroes alike in the comic universe have this thing about staying dead.

 

[LesIsMore]

Of course, from my point of view it's all a moot point since no superhero franchise has ever been good after it was bled for a third movie (Batman Forever, Spider-Man 3, X-men: The Last Stand, Superman III) and a fourth leads to levels of shittiness that reek like flayed ghouls (Superman: The Quest for Peace and Batman & Robin). Nolan has earned more faith than most for saving the Batman franchise, but there's nothing that makes me think he can follow this successfully.

While true, none of those had a sequel that far outdid the original, and was easily considered the best movie of the year, and best Superhero movie ever, hands down. We are dealing with a unique phenomena here.

True indeed, and I do give Nolan more room to succeed here. I consider "The Dark Knight" the best film of the year, best comic book movie ever and a contender for my favorite movie ever, but there's too many *really* egregious examples to fall back on. I approach any sequel with cautious dread.

 

[Mr.Pandah]

You dont actually see Two Face buried...so its still up to debate. I personally think he's dead and that the funeral mass thing they held was to just clear his name and to make sure people dont know how he died. Only how he lived. Ya know, to keep the hope in Gotham alive. I was really dissapointed when he "died" but oh well. Maybe he still lives =D

 

[Abako]

I hate robin. Always have since the phrase Jiminy-Jillickers Batman! (spelling?)

Wasn't that Fallout Boy?

I have no clue as I detest Fallout Boy. Maybe it is and I heard that from a friend but that phrase just sticks in my head. I hated all of robins little 'Holy shit'-esque phrases

No, not the band Fallout Boy, but in "The Simpsons" the hero Radioactive Man has a sidekick named Fallout Boy who has that slogan. There's an episode where they film the Radioactive Man film in Springfield and Milhouse gets cast as Fallout Boy - and now I feel old since I remember when the show was actually good.

OOOHHHH! I remeber that now! your right. Huh. Well I still hate robin, little punk lol.

 

[WlknCntrdiction]

Putting in Bane breaking Batmans back, now that would be epic

 

[Juan Regular]

I'd like to see the riddler. They might even get Jim Carrey for the role again.

But I think no matter what Nolan does he'll deliver another great movie. I mean, look at his movies so far: Following, Memento, Batman and the Prestige. Great director.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

Batgirl might work, Batman needs something he can care about again to humanize him.

 

[DannyDeparted]

If they're going to keep up the style they've been going with, the Riddler could really be an asset to them. Re-vamped, made much darker so as to really screw with Batman's head; What's worse than a villain than launches an all out attack on the mind of the Hero. Joker proved this. I think if they're to pull it off Hugo Weaving could make an excellent Riddler, particularly considering his performance in V for Vendetta and as Agent Smith. He just has that air of dark intelligence to him.

That being said, Batman still needs someont to show off his funky kung-fu on. So a second villain, more intent on beating Batman to a pulp owuld be advisable. Hush and the Riddler have history together and could make a good pair. Or they could go for The Reaper, or Mr Freeze or something.
Or hell, even go for Cluemaster and really get the Bat thinking.

 

[Eogris]

Is it possible the next big villain will be batman himself?

I had a feeling that the next movie would be ALLL about commissioner gordon chasing batman. there doesn't have to be a HUGE bad guy, just someone to get batman out and stopping crime. The riddle would work very nicely i believe, he would just have to be extremely dark and insane.

 

[Charile97L]

I think there's a possibility that there won't be a third movie. just because they made a second one, doesn't mean there will be a third.

nolan isn't sure, and i'm sure he won't get on board unless the story is amazing. bale has said many times that he won't do it unless nolan is involved.

i know they're under contract for 3, but that's no guarantee of anything.

personally, i think the riddler can be a nasty, nasty villan, if you've read some of the darker graphic novels he can be quite cagey. plus, that accountant

SPOILERS who figured out batman's ID in the movie was named Mr Reese (ie Mysteries)... either that was a nod, or they're setting something up. also, there's no guarantee that Ra's is dead, nor is there a guarantee that TF is either. SPOILERS

just my two cents.

 

[Tanthalos]

I say bring out one of the super creepy minor Batman villians like Jane Doe.

Jane Doe watches your behaviour and speech pattern and then when the time is right she skins you, wears it like a wet suit and takes over your life.

 

[GothmogII]

I hate robin. Always have since the phrase Jiminy-Jillickers Batman! (spelling?)

Wasn't that Fallout Boy?

I have no clue as I detest Fallout Boy. Maybe it is and I heard that from a friend but that phrase just sticks in my head. I hated all of robins little 'Holy shit'-esque phrases

Wasn't he just a parody on the Simpsons? I thought they were making fun of that old Batman series.

Anyhoo...what's all this about villians being minor and not worthy of inclusion? *shrug* I mean, most of the choices listed so far have nearly all got good face time in the various Batman related media you can think off, and not really minor in any sense. That said...if there's to be a third film, it -would- probably be a better known face...

Bane - Is actually quite an intelligent villian on-top of his strength, I hate the way he was dumbed down in that god awful Batman & Robin. And what they did to Mr.Freeze too!
Either of them would be great, and with Mr.Freeze, he's still got that 'tragic past' thing to drawn on, so not too hard to give him another go.

Clayface...well, I've only ever seen the Batman: The Animated Series version of him, which I believe is significantly different than the comic book portrayals of Clayface. i.e. An actor disfigured in an accident, and mutated by an experimental restorative cream. That...and Ron Perlman did his voice :3 Still, plenty of room for drama there.

 

[ultra_v_89]

I say bring out one of the super creepy minor Batman villians like Jane Doe.

Jane Doe watches your behaviour and speech pattern and then when the time is right she skins you, wears it like a wet suit and takes over your life.

Jesus Christ, that would probably be dark enough. It would probably screw with capturing the prepubescent market, but that would be a good thing for hardcore fans. In my opinion, there is no clarification the two-face is dead, plus the manky side looked awsome, so I believe if they make a 3rd, he'll make an appearance. Other than that, Riddler or Bane FTW.

 

[DannyDeparted]

***Spoiler Warning*** ok i'm fairly sure that Ra's is dead, i was watching that scene just thinking 'he could survive that, he could survive that' that was until the dam thing blew up all over the place. Sure he is a ninja though so he might have slipped out a window...lol. As for Two Face, i'm not convinced he is dead. i've seen it twice and he definately breathes at least once laying on the ground. Maybe they've just locked him up and for the sake of his reputation claimed he died. Which would be an interesting predicament if he was broken free in the future and hell, maybe Batman doesnt even know about it, cause he did take off in a hurry after the fall. ***Spoiler Warning***

My money's certainly on the Riddler (once more, would love Hugo Weaving in that role), as well as someone more physical like maybe Hush, the two of them do have history together.

 

[Tanthalos]

I believe everyone should read "Arkham Asylum: Living Hell" and then have this discussion, there are so many minor charcters who so deserve screen time. So many characters that you can have make amazing cameos but no one ever sees them because they were not in the movies or cartoons.

P.S. We need more Harley Quinn

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

The problem with the following villains...

Clayface
Manbat
Ra's Al Ghul
Mr. Freeze
Poison Ivy
Solomon Grundy

Is that they're all "too comic booky" and wouldn't fit the now much more realistic and serious standard set by The Dark Knight. They can't brink back Ra's because after doing a "riveting crime drama that was acclaimed for its lack of comic book stupidity" they would never DARE have another super weapon style plot.

 

[GothmogII]

The problem with the following villains...

Clayface
Manbat
Ra's Al Ghul
Mr. Freeze
Poison Ivy
Solomon Grundy

Is that they're all "too comic booky" and wouldn't fit the now much more realistic and serious standard set by The Dark Knight. They can't brink back Ra's because after doing a "riveting crime drama that was acclaimed for its lack of comic book stupidity" they would never DARE have another super weapon style plot.

Humm...well, that's why they need to 'update' them no? The nuclear powered man of yesteryear is now the genetically warped fiend or nanomonster of today?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

P.S. We need more Harley Quinn

Seconded.

@Pedrosteckecilo

Nonsense. You just need a real world analogy.

Clayface : Ignore the shapeshifting and concentrate on the mimicry; but add in the pain of losing his memories.
Manbat : See Venom
Mr. Freeze : Take away his ice-blaster and turn him into an Eco-Terrorist fighting to save the Polar Ice-caps.
Poison Ivy : Remove the seduction, keep the lesbian angle hinted at in the comic books and put her forward as an Anita Broderick character.
Solomon Grundy : He's basically Frankenstein's Monster, so treat him that way. Maybe S.T.A.R. Labs have a cloned organ donor that biologically incubates new cancer treatments; but, unbeknownst to them, it's developed consciousness.

In fact...all four human ones could have easily been I-IV (See what I did there ) if codename V was number 5. Manbat could just be Batman's nightmare.