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crimson5pheonix

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Mr.Pandah said:
So...can you guys help me get a laptop? I need it for school...I'll post the Recommended Requirements and hopefully you guys will be able to point me in the right direction...It says the price would be about 2,300 =/ That's coming out of my wallet. Once again, its a laptop for college and I want to get the most bang for my buck. Thanks.
You don't need to spend that much. If it's just college, just get a netbook.
 

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Its for Computer Science though as a major, it needs to run programs and what not.
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
you do realize that dell owns and runs alienware right?
I've always thought Alienware was overpriced and gaudy. Ever since Dell acquired them they've apparently been cutting corners a bit here and there, too.

-- Alex
 

crimson5pheonix

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Alex_P said:
cleverlymadeup said:
you do realize that dell owns and runs alienware right?
I've always thought Alienware was overpriced and gaudy. Ever since Dell acquired them they've apparently been cutting corners a bit here and there, too.

-- Alex
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Dice_Morgan said:
This thread seems more like an argument between eggo and crimson5pheonix, you guys should really exchange emails or something.
Partly, but not entirely. Anyone with a relevant question is welcome.
 

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Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
 

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Mr.Pandah said:
Its for Computer Science though as a major, it needs to run programs and what not.
90% of my undergraduate CS work was done through an SSH connection. (So far, 90% of my real-world software engineering work has been through an SSH connection, too.)

That means the only part of my desktop that mattered was the display. Some kind of crazy-expensive box may be somewhat better than a single lab computer, but there's no way it can compare to simultaneously compiling a large project on 20 to 30 machines.

-- Alex
 

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Mr.Pandah said:
Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
Get a macbook and install windows with bootcamp.
Why do you need that much?
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
Get a macbook and install windows with bootcamp.
Why do you need that much?
*shrug* Don't ask me, ask the college =X I'm just looking for a cost-effective way of going about this, what with the whole economic depression setting in and I'm out of a job.

Also, Alex, Do you enjoy CS? It will be my first semester attending college for the CS Major. I was wondering if its an enjoyable line of work and is there a market for it? Or is it oversaturated? =/
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
Get a macbook and install windows with bootcamp.
That would be complicated , how about this . http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644570896&parentCategoryId=16154

That is what I would probably get if I was in your position .
 

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Mr.Pandah said:
Its for Computer Science though as a major, it needs to run programs and what not.

Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
I think a netbook is not your best bet since I assume you will be using the portable computer for number crunching. Netbooks aren't nearly as powerful or as fully-featured as the specs you posted.

You're probably better off getting an ultra-portable with a dual-core processor. Ultra-portables for me are the best of both worlds: you have more power than a netbook which makes all the difference if you plan to do more productivity work than just browse the web and write the occasional word document, and is more portable than your conventional notebook, which admittedly is a chore to carry all over the campus.

If you don't plan on playing games you could skip having a graphics card (Intel's lousy GMA will suffice).

However, I would still check beforehand with your department / faculty and see if they are using simulation / modeling software that make use of 3D graphics. If that is the case, you may want to get a portable with an ATI or Nvidia graphics subsystem.

Basically:
* 2-4GB RAM (If you get 4GB RAM, also get a 64-bit operating system)
* 1.6-2.4GHz Core2Duo (Core Duos, although dual-core as well, are first-generation CPUs and are slower in comparison)
* 1280x720-1280x1024 resolution (or higher - you will appreciate the extra screen real estate if you work with large data sets, since you won't have to scroll as much) (It will be harder to find ultra-portables with 1440x1050 resolution because the screen size for ultra-portables tend to be small but if you can, by all means go for it - but be prepared to pay the premium.

Hard drive space isn't critical - you can always buy an external drive or simply a thumb drive when you need more space.

Everything else is gravy.

Have a look at the typical vendors to see what they can offer in terms of portability. I'd like to mention that although IBM no longer manufactures the ThinkPad series, they are very tough notebooks that can take a beating or three. Lenovo now owns the ThinkPad brand, but they are very reputed in their own right. I think heir ultra-portables are starting out at pretty reasonable prices:

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=135A781CA29B4ECB9ADAD8E72CF6FD61

I don't know if they sell Sharp notebooks over where you live, but there is a model called the Mebius Muramasa which is ultra-slim and light without sacrificing much in the way of computing power. While still within your USD2,300 budget, that one will still cost you a pretty penny.
 

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Phantom2595 said:
My Mom is a public servant and my Dad is unemployed.
You have no idea how wrong that sounds . My dad makes 35 dollars an hour , and hear I am , with nary a car for myself. And you have a 08 civic and a 3 thousand dollar laptop .
Not gonna say what my parentals make but you shouldn't feel bad about not having a car. lol My parents are of the ideal that you get what you earn. Granted I have bought 2 cars with my own money(i'm 21) So it's worked out okay, I think I will do the same for my kids.

On topic Notebook, My 400 dollar Toshiba works amazing.
 

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Phantom2595 said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
Get a macbook and install windows with bootcamp.
That would be complicated , how about this . http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644570896&parentCategoryId=16154

That is what I would probably get if I was in your position .
Does it have the battery life required? It probably does, but make sure. Also 1400x1050 is a weird resolution.
 

Mr.Pandah

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*sigh* Being out of a job is terrible. Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate all of the help.
 

Phantom2595

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crimson5pheonix said:
Phantom2595 said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
Get a macbook and install windows with bootcamp.
That would be complicated , how about this . http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644570896&parentCategoryId=16154

That is what I would probably get if I was in your position .
Does it have the battery life required? It probably does, but make sure. Also 1400x1050 is a weird resolution.
But it's 900 dollars , lasts 5.5 hours and exceeds the recommended specs .
 

crimson5pheonix

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Phantom2595 said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Phantom2595 said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
Get a macbook and install windows with bootcamp.
That would be complicated , how about this . http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644570896&parentCategoryId=16154

That is what I would probably get if I was in your position .
Does it have the battery life required? It probably does, but make sure. Also 1400x1050 is a weird resolution.
But it's 900 dollars , lasts 5.5 hours and exceeds the recommended specs .
If it has a 5.5 hour battery life it's okay. I'd go with that then.
 

Mr.Pandah

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crimson5pheonix said:
Phantom2595 said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Phantom2595 said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
Get a macbook and install windows with bootcamp.
That would be complicated , how about this . http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644570896&parentCategoryId=16154

That is what I would probably get if I was in your position .
Does it have the battery life required? It probably does, but make sure. Also 1400x1050 is a weird resolution.
But it's 900 dollars , lasts 5.5 hours and exceeds the recommended specs .
If it has a 5.5 hour battery life it's okay. I'd go with that then.
So, that exceeds all of the recommended specs I laid out? for 900 dollars? It seems like something has to be missing! If this is true, I can't thank you enough!
 

crimson5pheonix

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Mr.Pandah said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Phantom2595 said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Phantom2595 said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Recommended Hardware Specifications:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
Memory: 2 GB DDR-RAM, expandable to 4GB
Display: 141. TFT SXGA LCD display, 1400x1050 resolution
Storage: 80 GB Hard Drive, 5200 RPM CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
Networking/Communications: Integrated 802.11b/g wireless, Integrated 10/100/1000, Ethernet, USB 2.0 port, IR port
Power: Lithium-ion battery(4.5 hr capacity)
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista (I have Windows Vista Home Premium already, so no worries on that since I can just load it up myself)
Warranty: 3-Yr Warranty(Most likely won't get this)
Estimated Cost(Includes other software needed): $2,300

So, yeah... Do netbooks have this? Once again, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not laptop savvy.
Get a macbook and install windows with bootcamp.
That would be complicated , how about this . http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644570896&parentCategoryId=16154

That is what I would probably get if I was in your position .
Does it have the battery life required? It probably does, but make sure. Also 1400x1050 is a weird resolution.
But it's 900 dollars , lasts 5.5 hours and exceeds the recommended specs .
If it has a 5.5 hour battery life it's okay. I'd go with that then.
So, that exceeds all of the recommended specs I laid out? for 900 dollars? It seems like something has to be missing! If this is true, I can't thank you enough!
You have to do two upgrades to meet the resolution requirement but even then it's still about $1,200
 

Mr.Pandah

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That is really fantastic. Honestly, I cannot believe how much I will be saving. This is great! Thank you so much guys!