The Truth About Girl Gamers.

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and now get on with gaming and don't start to whine to strangers...

being a girl gamer is no qualification whatsoever, as being a male gamer isn't one...

Ever heard of homo ludens?

Everyone is a gamer...!

 

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Le Snip

This thread can be summed up in 6 words.
In This Thread: Attention Seeking Girl.

Seriously though, if you don't want all the shit of being a "girl gamer" stop pressing on the fact that you're a fucking girl! So you're a gamer in lieu of a penis, so fucking what, it's not an open invitation for you to have "girlygirl McGirl" as your gamertag(you don't but I'm making a point so roll with it). You don't see guy gamers waving their cocks around screaming "I'm a boy gamer!" and having "boyishboy McBoy" as their gamertag. Don't be a girl gamer, be a gamer.

And stop whining to the Escapist, we'll just ridicule you.

EDIT: PS: Quit bitching and game for fuck's sake.

 

[Diserasta]

The truth is girls who play games are pretty common, I mean half the world's female, quite a bit play video games. For e.g. I introduced my childhood friend to non-RTS games (which she only played once a week anyway) when she asked me what multiplayer games I had for my PS2. The only one I could dig up was Dynasty Warriors 5. We were laughing our asses off after about 15 mins as I was frantically trying to translate everything the characters said since she was bad with English and having trouble, since I'm not that good with my mother tongue either.
Gamer girls are different entities entirely if you ask me. They're the girls/women who proclaim they are girls and shove it in other's face, like the aformentioned Halo 3 girl.
Honestly, gamers have no gender. They are treated as kindly as *same sex* and as lovingly as *other sex, or whatever gets you off* until given a reason to be treated otherwise.
The whole "It has a penis unless proven otherwise" doesn't apply anymore.

 

[Gorrister]

The women you talk about sure do seem needy. I've dated about six different "girl gamers in my life", and I would take my current girlfriend over any one of them, which is funny, because my current girlfriend wouldn't touch an Xbox with a ten foot pole. We have a fun and productive relationship that has nothing to do with playing video games, but sometimes I just want to be antisocial and play videogames. Couples do not have to exist as one being every second of every day. If she's bored out of her mind, tell her to read a book.

The point I'm trying to make is that putting someone of the opposite sex on a shining pedestal just because she doesn't role her eyes when turn on your Wii is actually doing an incredible
disservice to them and their gender.

Also, I thought you had me on ignore?

At first UH, I thought you were just a troll, yet the points you make are valid and concise. Were I wearing a hat, I'd tip it off to you.

As for the topic, my friend has recently taken to playing Super Mario on the Wii with me whenever she comes round. She seems to enjoy herself, regardless of how bad she is at the game, and I always end up laughing whenever I play it with her. The same cannot be said about some of my other guy mates I game with, especially on Fifa. Some guys get wayyyyy to into that game...

 

[crypt-creature]

[Y]ou look like a sexist prick. Parts of your second response just reinforce it.

I'm not sexist. Thats unfair. I never said male gamers were useful in any capacity.

Since that wasn't even the whole quote, I never said you undoubtably were. Just that it made you look as such (meaning you came off as sexist, but might not be).

And again, you seemed to have a more hostile tone towards women than men in your responses.
The second response you had was much better than the first, but still a tad hostile.

 

[AngloDoom]

I think that you're forgetting that it still is pretty unusual for a girl to like videogames on the same level as a guy, at least where I live. Indeed, most women seem to look down on men where I live for playing videogames and patronisingly 'allow' us to play games. My ex-girlfriend, for example, once said she felt excluded from a conversation I was having with a friend because it involved games. When I said that I would try to steer the conversation I was having with my friend more into something she could also talk about, her reply was "Oh, but don't...I know gaming is a big part of your life" without any sense of irony. At that point in time, I was working to get money so I could spend it on us as a couple. I spent about a couple of hours a week at the very most on games because I used every oppurtunity I had to spend time with said girlfriend, however she still looked at me like I was a some kind of childish heroine addict because I had an Xbox in my room.

You should have gotten her to date a real heroin addict. They're insufferable and she would have come crawling back to you and you're video game addiction. No one should ever "allow you" to do anything. No two human beings have the same set of habits. If you are dating someone who can't deal with the fact that you like something she doesn't, it's a problem that goes far deeper than video game bias.

Maybe the women around your area are more forgiving, but it honestly is more of a big deal when a guy and girl can play videogames together in every place I've ever lived. In fact, I've only seen one couple play together on games in my entire life and it did honestly look odd to me. I've seen girls play games before, so it's not sure a big deal, but a guy playing a videogame with his girlfriend without her looking bored out of her mind or sad because they're not discussing their relationship is actually very rare in my experience.

The women you talk about sure do seem needy. I've dated about six different "girl gamers in my life", and I would take my current girlfriend over any one of them, which is funny, because my current girlfriend wouldn't touch an Xbox with a ten foot pole. We have a fun and productive relationship that has nothing to do with playing video games, but sometimes I just want to be antisocial and play videogames. Couples do not have to exist as one being every second of every day. If she's bored out of her mind, tell her to read a book.

The point I'm trying to make is that putting someone of the opposite sex on a shining pedestal just because she doesn't role her eyes when turn on your Wii is actually doing an incredible
disservice to them and their gender.

Also, I thought you had me on ignore?

Actually, I'm a different guy to the one you started talking to. I think this is the first time I've spoken to you with the exception of the above post.

Yes, the women I know are indeed rather needy. In fact, most women I've ever spoken to are quite needy. Many accept videogames simply because they're just something to do, however I still frequently see women look down on men for games. Even if it's nothing to do with them.

Two of my girl flat-mates were drunk and had decided to dance on the kitchen table. I didn't drink then and they seemed happy to be by themselves, so I left them to it. I went to play on my 360, and two guys in my flat joined me because the girls were rather loud and over-powering so they felt they couldn't hold a conversation. The two then joined me on the 360 and we played a few easy games while having a chat. The girls then burst into my room, looked at us playing games and said:
"Urgh! Stop being so boring!"
To which the other replied; "Oh, just leave the boys to their games"
And stormed out as if we'd caused them a personal affront by not giving them out utmost attention all the time. One of the guys on the 360 was going out with one of the said girls, and he was used to her looking down on him in this way to the point he only played games when she was absorbed in something else, just so he wouldn't get her screaming out for attention all the time.

A girl and a guy sharing a game is the same kind of "Awesome" as I get when I say I enjoy clothes-shopping with girls. Some stereotypes exist because they do exist. Majoirty of men play games, so it is unusual to see a girl play games. As a result, girls that play games are interesting and a novelty. Similar to why 'gay best-friends' are all the rage with women.

That's personally my opinion, although I do see where you are coming from. It's unnatural, however, to expect something people who find genuinely surprsing to not act surprised. I honest do understand what you are saying, and I think you made some very good points, but I think it's a case of something that works on paper and isn't necessarily true to life in all places. Maybe where you are it's more normal for girls to play games. In my personal experience, I've met less than ten girls who play games and I've lived in seven different areas in two different countries in my life.

 

[Me55enger]

Perhaps the industry has not yet adjusted to a unisex community.

That or the unisex appearance of someone online is still the default norm. Anonymity of a persons online persona creates us all as equal, until that anonymity is lost and we revert back to conventional judgementalism.

 

[Embright]

People like people with similar interests. Girls gamers have a knack for not being very common and in my personal experience I have met very few (people I know outside the Internet), perhaps one in fifteen. This though is for hardcore (whatever that means) gamers, for casual gamers I would say one in five. For liking video games at all I'd say one in three.

You are just uncommon, that is all.

 

[Unmitigated Hatred]

I think that you're forgetting that it still is pretty unusual for a girl to like videogames on the same level as a guy, at least where I live. Indeed, most women seem to look down on men where I live for playing videogames and patronisingly 'allow' us to play games. My ex-girlfriend, for example, once said she felt excluded from a conversation I was having with a friend because it involved games. When I said that I would try to steer the conversation I was having with my friend more into something she could also talk about, her reply was "Oh, but don't...I know gaming is a big part of your life" without any sense of irony. At that point in time, I was working to get money so I could spend it on us as a couple. I spent about a couple of hours a week at the very most on games because I used every oppurtunity I had to spend time with said girlfriend, however she still looked at me like I was a some kind of childish heroine addict because I had an Xbox in my room.

You should have gotten her to date a real heroin addict. They're insufferable and she would have come crawling back to you and you're video game addiction. No one should ever "allow you" to do anything. No two human beings have the same set of habits. If you are dating someone who can't deal with the fact that you like something she doesn't, it's a problem that goes far deeper than video game bias.

Maybe the women around your area are more forgiving, but it honestly is more of a big deal when a guy and girl can play videogames together in every place I've ever lived. In fact, I've only seen one couple play together on games in my entire life and it did honestly look odd to me. I've seen girls play games before, so it's not sure a big deal, but a guy playing a videogame with his girlfriend without her looking bored out of her mind or sad because they're not discussing their relationship is actually very rare in my experience.

The women you talk about sure do seem needy. I've dated about six different "girl gamers in my life", and I would take my current girlfriend over any one of them, which is funny, because my current girlfriend wouldn't touch an Xbox with a ten foot pole. We have a fun and productive relationship that has nothing to do with playing video games, but sometimes I just want to be antisocial and play videogames. Couples do not have to exist as one being every second of every day. If she's bored out of her mind, tell her to read a book.

The point I'm trying to make is that putting someone of the opposite sex on a shining pedestal just because she doesn't role her eyes when turn on your Wii is actually doing an incredible
disservice to them and their gender.

Also, I thought you had me on ignore?

Actually, I'm a different guy to the one you started talking to. I think this is the first time I've spoken to you with the exception of the above post.

Yes, the women I know are indeed rather needy. In fact, most women I've ever spoken to are quite needy. Many accept videogames simply because they're just something to do, however I still frequently see women look down on men for games. Even if it's nothing to do with them.

Two of my girl flat-mates were drunk and had decided to dance on the kitchen table. I didn't drink then and they seemed happy to be by themselves, so I left them to it. I went to play on my 360, and two guys in my flat joined me because the girls were rather loud and over-powering so they felt they couldn't hold a conversation. The two then joined me on the 360 and we played a few easy games while having a chat. The girls then burst into my room, looked at us playing games and said:
"Urgh! Stop being so boring!"
To which the other replied; "Oh, just leave the boys to their games"
And stormed out as if we'd caused them a personal affront by not giving them out utmost attention all the time. One of the guys on the 360 was going out with one of the said girls, and he was used to her looking down on him in this way to the point he only played games when she was absorbed in something else, just so he wouldn't get her screaming out for attention all the time.

A girl and a guy sharing a game is the same kind of "Awesome" as I get when I say I enjoy clothes-shopping with girls. Some stereotypes exist because they do exist. Majoirty of men play games, so it is unusual to see a girl play games. As a result, girls that play games are interesting and a novelty. Similar to why 'gay best-friends' are all the rage with women.

That's personally my opinion, although I do see where you are coming from. It's unnatural, however, to expect something people who find genuinely surprsing to not act surprised. I honest do understand what you are saying, and I think you made some very good points, but I think it's a case of something that works on paper and isn't necessarily true to life in all places. Maybe where you are it's more normal for girls to play games. In my personal experience, I've met less than ten girls who play games and I've lived in seven different areas in two different countries in my life.

How come you're allowed to make generalizations about women and I'm not?

 

[Sebenko]

I don't like girls, they're icky!

Also, chest tumours.

Why bring this up then complain about it being brought up when you bring it up? and now were in a big circle of going up. And when you're going up, you need to go down as well.


Double Entendre to the max, baby.

 

[geon106]

The Truth About Girl Gamers

So, Fellow Escapees, this is my first time posting a thread, but I feel it will provide a valid insight into both your minds, and the ever long issue of girl gamers. I keep reading these articles such as "Riot Grrrls Wanted" and "235. Vaginophobia" on the escapist website, and I just really do wonder about the Myth of the Elusive Girl Gamer, and what people think about it.

Personally, every guy I meet, whether whilst gaming online, or in the real world, either think the fact that I'm a girl gamer is too good to be true, or just don't take me seriously. Maybe this fact causes fewer girls to play online. Or maybe the girls just aren't playing the same games as you, so you don't realise they are out there! Also, I know one of my female friends doesn't like using a mic online because people think she is a prepubescent boy :\ Also a lot of the girl gamers out there were probably introduced to it by their boyfriends. Just Saying. I just believe that there must be more girl gamers than guys believe there are, or who get given credit for.

The truth is, we are out there, but you probably won't notice us, because our gamertags aren't like "FluffyBunnyGirl" or "GirlPwnsYou" or whatever.. And I personally don't fit the girl gamer stereotype of Cooking Momma and Barbie Ponies, with Guitar Hero being a step up! I am an expert at guitar hero and play a range of Xbox 360 games from Left 4 Dead and Gears of War to Too Human and Fable. Hell, I've even spent 30 hours straight playing my Xbox like a deranged fool.

Basically what I wanna know is: why is there SUCH a fuss surrounding the topic of girl gamers; how elusive they are and such, and, girl gamers, I want your opinions on this because I know you know exactly what I mean.

I just really want to know what you guys think!

UPDATE: i honestly believe im a gamer who just happens to be a girl. and i agree with the attention seeking. it annoys me.

I disagree with the whole "girl gamer" notion. My fiancée spends more time playing World of Warcraft and Oblivion than me. theres 2 girls at my work who are huge gamers, one is a huge CoD and Uncharted fan (Y)

Also in my guild on WoW we have a few girls, my sister has a character on there, we have a 23 year old woman from Yorkshire(bless), theres a girl called Scarla who is in her teens and another girl whos in her late 20's called Kerry. So WoW seems to be very attractive to girls

My best gaming friend's girlfriend is a big casual gamer, in other words she loves playing simple games but no matter how hard he trys, the most "hardcore" she gets is pressing buttons at Rock Band or Guitar Hero.

My mum is also a casual gamer, in that she used to be a huge Theme Park fan but now spends everynight playing the Sims 2

My fiancées mum also enjoys playing on her DS and Wii <- tho neither count, as thats more casual than the sex 14-year old girls have these days

 

[AngloDoom]

How come you're allowed to make generalizations about women and I'm not?

I don't think I ever stopped you. I honestly believe generalisations are allowed because there are social trends. Women, in general, like to go shopping in huge bunches, get up to go to the tiolet six times a meal to talk about someone at the table, and often like celeb gossip. Not all women do, but a significant amount that when I say this to a woman and they get insulted, I ask "Do you do any of the above?" and more often or not it's all of them.

However, there are things men do, also, that are rather general too. It's safe to say "You're a guy, you look at porn" but if I turn around to a girl and say "You're a girl, you like Disney films" then people get offended.

Everyone in my friendship group for the last year of my school and first year of college was a girl. Most were stereotypical in a lot of aspects. Just how, when I hang out with guys, I get pissed off that whenever we go out we can't go an hour without one of them interrupting me with an observation about some woman's clevage.

No, generalisations are fine if there's a pattern. However, you have to be tactful in using them and keep in mind that not everyone fits. It's a general attribute, not a law.

 

[ibatterbadgers]

most of the guys online cant find girls in real life so they try to find them online... My cousin (girl) is a gamer and has had (since she first started XBL) about 8 relationships with guys online.. it creeps me out.

What's her gamertag? *kidding*

O/T: There are girls out there that don't help the cause. One of my friends will flirt incessantly with any guy when she is on line if she thinks it will help her out- she has finished several co-op games hardly having to lift a finger because she gets the guys to do all the hard work for her. This only ever contributes to the "girls can't game" image, which in turn leads to the overblown reaction of most guys when they meet a girl on games like CoD- "OMG it's a girl! But girls can't play games! So why is she even here? She must not exist! *flame flame flame*".

 

[_zuul]

trufax

 

[SomeUnregPunk]

Is this like when a boy finds out that the football fan next to him is really a girl?
Shock, awe and then acceptance.

Except some people haven't hit acceptance stage yet because they enjoy the shock and awe stage too much.

 

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[x0ny]

Elusive? I date one for a start, and her sister is also one.
Edit: spelling

 

[SmartIdiot]

*sigh*

There are no girl gamers.

There are just gamers. Gaming does not discriminate on a gender basis, so why try and separate those who love it into two groups instead of actually playing the games?