The problem isn't that War Z is shit. The problem is that the steam store page advertised many features for the game that weren't in the game, and Valve did absolutely nothing to try to verify that the steam store page accurately described the game. Because Valve does approve every game that goes on Steam, and because it is an advertisement on their store for a product that they're selling, they are partially, if not wholly responsible for anything on the store page for a game.Sacman said:
Compare it to the iOS store and Apple. For a game(buy or free to play) to be placed on the iOS store, Apple goes through each and every possible listing to make sure it works/completed, has all the features that the game makers says it has, and that there is nothing inappropriate/against Apple policy in said game. War Z is an unfinished, bug-ridden mess of a game without even half of what the description says it has(which is blatant false advertisement, and that's a crime), and the game makers are actively banning and blacklisting the buyers who are lodging formal complaints against the game. Valve(Since Steam belongs to them) did absolutely no quality control, just uploading the game straight away since the game makers has a game already on the Steam service.Sacman said:
Steam gets flack for it because their policy is generally one of "once we have your money it's not our problem anymore". And steam actually has allowed publishers to release games that didn't work at all, see Rage on release, or Dead Island not being able to launch at all for some people, I forget the name but there was multiplayer only game on steam that had no access to server for like a month or two after release. Hell there are games on steam that don't even work well with the steam interface/overlay and you have to find a community workaround to launch it outside steam (Far Cry 1, some Tom Clancy Games). And in cases like these steam should offer refunds because when people complain developers just shrug their shoulders and say "sorry it's out of our hands, steam controls it".Sacman said:
He hyped up all the Fable games by mentioning features they never had and bent the truth until it nearly snapped to sell the games. Then there's Milo, the fully interactive AI he used to demo the Kinect, that turned out to be completely scripted, and the Kinect couldn't do half the things the Milo demo showed.Bertylicious said:
There are 2,226 games on Steam that are under $10.Maxtro said:
This legitimately surprised me. I was expecing a lot of defense for why Steam should have no part and "free market."kman123 said:
Both of you are completely off track from the original argument anyway. The poster who sparked this pointlessly heated argument claimed thatRawne1980 said:
As the post implies, the real argument is that a developer who isn't getting paid a lot for their game isn't going to bother making a good game. Regardless of the prerequisite purchases necessary to play DayZ, the devs were just a bunch of modders, so unless they're getting part of those Arma2 sales, DayZ is in effect a game that was developed "for free"Maxtro said:
To be fair, they were probably mislead as well, but we'll see how they react to it now.Smolderin said:
Basically he greatly exaggerated to flat out lied about features in his games specifically fable if you google about him a bit you will find out specifically what he saidBertylicious said:
but yeah he has a habit of bigging up his games massively he even contacted Yahtzee in regards to... fable 2? i think? saying he believed it would be up to his high standard as mentioned in one of the videos.
Oh gosh, I feel sorry for people like you were who thought this was the DayZ standalone and bought it because of that.Ethan Bewley said:
