The "weeaboo" argument
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Nah, it's cool. I just wish I had caught it. Lousy never learning to type proper....*shakes fist at self*Soviet Heavy said:
Yup, this basically sums up my opinion.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Japanese dubs are generally good, it's just that the female VAs are always annoying as fuck. That squeaky, helium infused voice just doesn't do it for me. Some English dubs have that same problem, but never to the extent that I see it in Japanese ones.
But to be honest, many of the extremely strong "SUBS ARE BETTER THAN DUBS" advocates I've met generally are weeaboos. Not saying the OP is one, just my experience.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the act of watching an anime in japanese with english subtitles. If you're a pretentious ass about it then that's a problem, but that has nothing to do with the anime.
If nothing else it seems like a good way to learn the language.
If nothing else it seems like a good way to learn the language.
On the rare occasions that I watch anime, it's in Japanese with subtitles. Mainly because the English dubs are usually awful.
A weeaboo, to my understanding, is some unwashed virgin who wears cat ears in public and drops words like 'baka' and 'kawaii' into everyday conversation. On forums, they tend to stick bits of roleplay into factual posts
*runs away ^.^*
A weeaboo, to my understanding, is some unwashed virgin who wears cat ears in public and drops words like 'baka' and 'kawaii' into everyday conversation. On forums, they tend to stick bits of roleplay into factual posts
*runs away ^.^*
No, liking anime subbed over dubbed does not make you a weeaboo. The vast majority of weeaboos watch subs, but that's correlation, not cause. Prefering subs is the hallmark of most otakus of the reasonable variety, so your fine. I was an Otaku, and I preferred subs. Now, I watch maybe one anime a year, and I STILL prefer subs.
Can't believe this is even a question haha of course it's ok to watch shows in the language that doesn't sound like a baby cat squealing...Trivea said:
Subs over dubs any day. Most of the dubs the voices just dont seem to fit and just sound wrong i guess, and the lack of lipsync just is a nitpick thing i have and bugs me when i can see it everywhere. Im a fast reader so subs are no problem to read and see whats going on, the voices sound better and i do not need to wait for it to be licenced for english and wait a year or 2 to watch it.
For those of you who don't know.
A weeaboo by the original definition when it first arose in the early 2000's meant that if you've ever, EVER done anything, or seen something that originated from Japan, that made you a weeaboo. If you glanced at an episode of Pokémon when you were 6, you were a weeaboo.
But the term evolved, and then became a term for Japanese, or Otaku culture noobs. People who were interested in Japanese culture and media, but were really nooby in that field.
This also split down a separate path to mean two things. Either the aforementioned Otaku noob, or anybody that tried to BE Japanese. This was merely a 'high school' phenomenon though.
ALL cosplayers are weeaboo's by default, yet Japanese people aren't weeaboo's.
I dunno, it's a clique phrase that doesn't really get tossed round anymore, it's the first time I've heard of it for years.
A weeaboo by the original definition when it first arose in the early 2000's meant that if you've ever, EVER done anything, or seen something that originated from Japan, that made you a weeaboo. If you glanced at an episode of Pokémon when you were 6, you were a weeaboo.
But the term evolved, and then became a term for Japanese, or Otaku culture noobs. People who were interested in Japanese culture and media, but were really nooby in that field.
This also split down a separate path to mean two things. Either the aforementioned Otaku noob, or anybody that tried to BE Japanese. This was merely a 'high school' phenomenon though.
ALL cosplayers are weeaboo's by default, yet Japanese people aren't weeaboo's.
I dunno, it's a clique phrase that doesn't really get tossed round anymore, it's the first time I've heard of it for years.
I refuse to read movies period. I can't stand constantly looking at the bottom of the screen to see what's being said. The only dubbed over content I have a problem with is live action content as it universally horrible when dubbed over. Animation on the other hand I rarely have a problem with in the few cases I watch dubbed over animation.
The quality varies wildly. A whole lot of them are pretty awful, and to say that they "can't translate well enough" would be being polite. There are a small number of fansub groups out there that release on a slower schedule (as opposed to the more common speedsub groups that are usually pretty crappy) that focus on quality, and some of them have actually done a good enough job that they've been hired to work on the official translations. If I'm remembering right, they got a couple of the people who were fansubbing the Haruhi Suzumiya show to do the official translation of the books, for example. So yeah, a whole lot of them are crap, and a whole lot of people don't realize that, but it's not universally true.Palademon said:
Depends, is the English dub any good and is it faithful to the original? See, when an anime gets dubbed for kids the English dub often ends up like most JRPGs: detached from the original dialogue and a little silly. Characters lose personality traits and the way they act can be completely different.Trivea said:
When it comes to certain anime watching the original Japanese is a must. However, certain anime (Full Metal Alchemist and Berserk for example) just feel more natural in English, if only because both are set in a psuedo-European area and both have fantastic dubs. My girlfriend and I watched Berserk in the English dubs out of choice and ended up watching Sailor Moon Stars in Japanese out of necessity. If I had to go back now I'd watch the entire series of Sailor Moon in Japanese...
On the subject on Naruto, I always feel the need to point out that his Japanese voice is, well, locked in a permanent screech. It's not meant to be melodious and beautiful exactly. Yeah, I usually prefer the Japanese voices too. ust sayin'.
Perfectly fine. If someone wants to call you on it for whatever retarded reason they want to use, feel free ot tell them to fuck off in no uncertain terms.
I do it because of one major thing. I do not speak Japanese so I need the subtitles to understand. However the English dubs miss a lot of inflections and stresses of language that are sometimes really important and even if the person is talking in Japanese you can pick out the tone and inflections.
I do it because of one major thing. I do not speak Japanese so I need the subtitles to understand. However the English dubs miss a lot of inflections and stresses of language that are sometimes really important and even if the person is talking in Japanese you can pick out the tone and inflections.
My stance is that a dub is always off somehow due to the differences between English and Japanese. I don't think I have ever seen a dub that didn't either have pacing issues (awkward, unnatural pauses) or translation inaccuracies to some degree or another. Some are better than others, but I always find that I prefer the subtitles, even with the better dubs. Then again, I'm a fast reader and I do understand some Japanese, so it really isn't a big deal for me. I find myself distracted more when my wife turns on the Japanese subtitles for an English language movie.