The Wii Really Annoys Me Because...

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Podunk

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The Wii annoys me because their big 'christmas game' they decided to push was Brawl, a game out for almost a year at the time... unless you count Wii Music, and I don't think anyone does.

However, until they can find a way to take World of Goo off of my Wii it's going to be my favorite game system. And it looks like there are going to be some good releases this year as well.
 

AndyFromMonday

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How did Microsoft tried something new with the 360? At least the PS3 has Blu-Ray but the 360 has nothing special about it (except the RROD).[/quote]

Ok, I don't wanna say this, but you truly sound like a fanboy...Heck who noes, you might be one.

Oh and Xbox Live(People buy Xboxes for that, I bought mine for that and I find it awesome)
 

Hyoscine

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DraftPickle said:
See just calling me a retard over the internet is just plain silly, i dont like it, but it is your opinion so I dont go about trying to abuse you cuz i dont like your opinion.
But, you're calling my opinions silly! Over the internet! Dude, it was just my opinion. Jeez...
 

James Cassidy

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DraftPickle said:
Ok The PS3 only has a few good games and I'm on my second 360 but at least they're trying something new.
This statement is a bit confusing. In terms of gameplay, the Wii goes into new territory with the full Wii-motion. Over the years Nintendo, while lacking in graphics, still was able to come up with new and interesting ways to play the game. If I recall, the N64 was the first to use the joystick on the console. It was also the first one to have a gun adaptation...that actually worked. Yeah another system at it, but it was a failure.

View Angry Video Game Nerd about the Nintendo technology that they made. Some good some bad, but they tried many different things. Most things Microsoft hasn;t even though of yet.

As for the Wii it self. I have fun with mine when I just want to goof off. Brawl is fun as hell and so is Ultimate Alliance. We also have Fire Emblem series which is by far one of the best RPG game I have played since...Golden Sun.
 

Spaz91

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"Oh and Xbox Live(People buy Xboxes for that, I bought mine for that and I find it awesome)
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Wow, paying to play against idiots, bigots and spoilt 6 year olds. Not to generalise though.

Admittedly the Wii's online has the worst gamers however has the best (or at least fastest) servers so its good for playing online with people you actually know, plus, ITS FREE.

PS3? Like a slightly more grown up but still irritating version of the xboxlive crowd but its still free.
 

Seldon2639

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The OP makes some sense. There are two different issues when we talk about "innovation": first there's hardware innovation, then there's software innovation. In terms of hardware innovation, the Wii wins hands down. They created and implemented a technology which (while finicky sometimes) is vastly different from the norm. That said, their games didn't follow suit. The Wii functions in the games are (in my opinion, and feel free to disagree) gimmicky at best, and outright idiotic at worst. The issue is that most of the time there's no major *benefit* to the motion-sensing technology (and sometimes major drawbacks). In fairness, No More Heroes was a great game that probably couldn't have been done as well on the 360 or PS3, but that's a rare find. My feeling is that Twilight Princess was better on the Gamecube, and if they had ported it the same would be true of Mario Galaxy. I'm not talking about graphics (I could honestly give a damn), I'm talking about gameplay and story; some of the greatest games in the world have been made on far worse graphics than even the Wii. So, it's not slavish devotion to high-end graphics to dislike the Wii. If they had made a new Mario RPG, which somehow put the Wii functions to good use, I'd be jumping on the bandwagon.

It's fine to like the Wii, and I'm not bashing it. It was a good idea, which simply wasn't executed as well as it could have been. Every Wii-based game I've played has gone through a series of steps: it starts off really fun, with the novelty of using the wiimote like a sword to make Link swing. Then it becomes a little annoying as the motion-sensor becomes more and more important to gameplay (since they wanted to make the most of the feature), until finally I become really frustrated, and wishing that I could just play it using normal controls. Call me crazy, but SSBB Brawl would have been (and is) a lot more fun using the gamecube controller and controls than the Wii. When we talk about the Wii, the question I would ask is whether the wii-motion is a benefit to the game in question. Would Fire Emblem have been more, or less, fun to play on the gamecube? Same with Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, ect.

In terms of making a novel gameplay experience, Nintendo should be lauded. And no, graphics don't always win (and shouldn't always win). But that by itself isn't a reason to defend the system. For every good game released for the Wii, there are a good half-dozen pieces of shovelware.
 

Zeldadudes

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DraftPickle said:
but its not just me going crazy it is actually bull isnt it? wheres the justice? eh lol
Mate calm down.
Haven't you ever heard of Marketing?
I have so many friends that brought a Wii, played it with their mates for a day and have not touched it since.
It's cheap, it's fun and it's good for more than one player. A lot like those girls in Amsterdam but thats not the point.
Nintendo have merely aimed at everyone except Hardcore gamers and have won.

Stop choking the chicken.
 

DraftPickle

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laikenf I didnt mean this to turn into a Wii hate thread I asked for intelligent opinions and discussions, but such cool people like Hyoscine annoy people and kinda ruin it for people, but more intelligent debates are welcome.
 

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Vlane said:
That too but I thought of this http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.87248.

Maybe it's just a bad time but maybe it won't change.
I think 2008 was just a bad year for the Wii overall. However I would disagree that it has already shined, just looking at this years line up for it makes me feel that 3rd-party developers are finally getting the hang of the Wii's strengths and we will see some great games for it in the future.
 

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fnph said:
DraftPickle said:
It literaly has 2 good games but yet its selling quicker than shit off a stick.
No More Heroes, de Blob, Zack and Wiki. That's three very good games right there. I could go on, but I've already disproved your statement.
That's not really disproving his statement. You can't disprove something that is subjective you can only counter it.
 

Hyoscine

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DraftPickle said:
laikenf I didnt mean this to turn into a Wii hate thread I asked for intelligent opinions and discussions, but such cool people like Hyoscine annoy people and kinda ruin it for people, but more intelligent debates are welcome.
Did you ask for intelligent opinions and discussions, or did you tell people who disagree with you to go and sit in a corner?
 

Bullfrog1983

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I don't have any problems with the Wii, other than the graphics are a bit worse than other new systems... but that has been known since the console came out. They still have a decent amount of good games, and if you count gamecube games as well they have a lot of good games.

Oh, and I own 5 good Wii games, so there is literally more than 2 of them out there.
 

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Seldon2639 said:
The OP makes some sense. There are two different issues when we talk about "innovation": first there's hardware innovation, then there's software innovation. In terms of hardware innovation, the Wii wins hands down. They created and implemented a technology which (while finicky sometimes) is vastly different from the norm. That said, their games didn't follow suit. The Wii functions in the games are (in my opinion, and feel free to disagree) gimmicky at best, and outright idiotic at worst. The issue is that most of the time there's no major *benefit* to the motion-sensing technology (and sometimes major drawbacks). In fairness, No More Heroes was a great game that probably couldn't have been done as well on the 360 or PS3, but that's a rare find. My feeling is that Twilight Princess was better on the Gamecube, and if they had ported it the same would be true of Mario Galaxy. I'm not talking about graphics (I could honestly give a damn), I'm talking about gameplay and story; some of the greatest games in the world have been made on far worse graphics than even the Wii. So, it's not slavish devotion to high-end graphics to dislike the Wii. If they had made a new Mario RPG, which somehow put the Wii functions to good use, I'd be jumping on the bandwagon.

It's fine to like the Wii, and I'm not bashing it. It was a good idea, which simply wasn't executed as well as it could have been. Every Wii-based game I've played has gone through a series of steps: it starts off really fun, with the novelty of using the wiimote like a sword to make Link swing. Then it becomes a little annoying as the motion-sensor becomes more and more important to gameplay (since they wanted to make the most of the feature), until finally I become really frustrated, and wishing that I could just play it using normal controls. Call me crazy, but SSBB Brawl would have been (and is) a lot more fun using the gamecube controller and controls than the Wii. When we talk about the Wii, the question I would ask is whether the wii-motion is a benefit to the game in question. Would Fire Emblem have been more, or less, fun to play on the gamecube? Same with Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, ect.

In terms of making a novel gameplay experience, Nintendo should be lauded. And no, graphics don't always win (and shouldn't always win). But that by itself isn't a reason to defend the system. For every good game released for the Wii, there are a good half-dozen pieces of shovelware.
In short: unused potential, and that's exactly what annoys me as well. Hence why I second this post ;)
 

Hyoscine

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I think the thing with the Wii controls is that they're often gimmicky and shoe-horned into situation where a different set-up would be applicable. They're by no means inherently bad though. Resi 4 was massively improved by Wiimote control, as was World of Goo and Geometry Wars. Lost Winds works played brilliantly, and, I think RTS style games could work a treat. It's just a case of not lazily sticking with old ill-fitting conventions and refraining from inflicting annoying and unintuitive 'mote waggling.
 

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DraftPickle said:
OK I'll address the issues cuz I'm getting some hate here. Right I briefly mention RROD because well it only happened once and i got a free month of XBL out of it and that subject has been covered alot so everyone knows about it. Calling me a Wii bigot isn't really relevant tis called an opinion. The PS3 and 360 do indeed use older tech but not old in the console market as i mentioned. Motion sensing is also old you been to an arcade before. Please dont call me "dumb" or a "berk" I'm open to change but their essentially selling a Gamecube with motion sensing thats not really change is it? It's like changing the controls round on your keyboard. Making 20 years of gaming available is not cool either MS and Sony do it and it pisses me off. Why are you so vigorous in defending your console as well I only offered my opinion. Sorry for wall of text
DraftPickle said:
I never realised that people defended their consoles so much, I don't own my Wii anymore but why do people, try and support their consoles, and I just thought as well I never actually said the PS3 or 360 were the second coming, they've all got flaws such as the PS3 having the biggest pile of wank online ever, and the 360 been about as reliable as Royal Mail but the Wii takes the biscuit, what isn't it like something billion is there market and the most their doing is saying buy the 90th Mario game i mean why pay for games from 20 years ago when you can get them now but with fancy controls.
You complain about people who defend consoles, yet all you have done in all of your comments is bash consoles, so how exactly do you expect people to react? To say "I hate your choice of console" then berate them for defending it, you are being a troll. There is only other alternative, the sociologist, but judging by your spelling prowess (C+, at best) you do not have the intelligence for that to be possible. So you are a troll.

DraftPickle said:
See just calling me a retard over the internet is just plain silly, i dont like it, but it is your opinion so I dont go about trying to abuse you cuz i dont like your opinion.
Yes you do, as I've already stated, you berate people for defending a console you hate. Thus, you hate their opinion of their console, and so, you are a hypocrite AND a troll.

Also, don't whine about name-calling. This is the Internet, and if someone deserves being called a name, someone is going to call it out. Like TROLL.