The worst argument you've ever heard

[Acton Hank]

Worst argument ever:'guns don't kill people, people kill people'.

I don't see how the argument is inaccurate.

I'm pretty sure that if you destroyed all the guns in the world the murder rate would plummet for a short while and then people would just start killing each other again with baseball bats, chainsaws, knives and other common household appliances.

 

[Jenvas1306]

Yes, let's lump all the arguments from one set of viewpoints together and dismiss them without actually listening to them. >.>

This is not to say I think there would be much substance, however dismissing something without even considering it seems rather silly.

Sorry, but my life is too short to consider every stupid argument, like if you tried to convince me the earth was a disc or a cube, I wouldnt waste time on listening. same goes for talking me into liking twilight or bananas. I just dont like both (for different reasons).
Everything that is anti-humanistic will hardly be considered by me.
But you do what you find right, just dont bother me with it.

 

[Acton Hank]

Worst argument ever:'guns don't kill people, people kill people'.

My favorite comebacks:
Yes, but you cannot commit mass murder with a chinese throwing star.
From this day forth, people will not be permitted to own guns, as they will use them to kill other people, as is their nature.

That wouldn't work, people would just switch back to the more gruesome and bloody ways we used to kill each other in the past.

In this respect not having gun control would probably be the more "humane" thing to do, as a bullet to the brain is generally accepted as being less painful than a knife to the chest.

EDIT: Ok, something went seriously wrong when quoting that post.

 

[Little Woodsman]

Please keep in mind that the person who said the following is a black woman from Haiti, living in the United States.
She once told me "No country is justified in going to war. Ever. For any reason."
When I pointed out that both Haiti and the United States eliminated the enslavement of black people through armed
conflict, she stuck to her guns and said that it would have been better for black people to still be kept as slaves
than to have had wars to end slavery.
Yeah.
It still makes my stomach hurt to think about that conversation.

 

[Proverbial Jon]

Slippery slope arguments annoy the fuck out of me.Just because one thing happens does not mean that something else,often completley unrelated,is going to follow

For example I've actually heard people say that if we allow gay marriage then before too long we'll have to remove the age of consent and legalise beastiality

Specially for you:


OT: My favourite is: "Everything happens for a reason," when something tragic happens. It's maddening, grown people say this and yet all it does is communicate to me that the person in question suffers from a childlike naivety and a near-dangerous delusion that there's some sort of plan laid out for them. Shit stuff just happens sometimes, ya know?

The problem is, most of the people I know that say it aren't even into all that religious/spiritual stuff so what higher power are they basing this insane notion on?

 

[kyuzo3567]

"They were associated with [thing that some group likely has a thing against already] therefore it was the cause of [the horrible tragedy the person was involved in]".

Latest example: Mass Effect was responsible for the shooting in Connecticut.

I honestly was reading some posts concerning that and I think I felt my eyes start bleeding from the idiocy.... I can't believe how stupid people can be for this, especially when (as far as I know) they were complaining about the brother of the person who actually committed the shooting.

 

[bat32391]

Well I live in Texas, so I usually can't go a day without hearing something that is stupid a hell. But the one that really takes the cake.

I was talking to my grandfather about evolution or something in public then this dumb ***** told me that anything that contradicts the bible is a lie and dinosaurs were tricks placed in the ground by satan to steer the true believers off the path of God.

I swear I'm not making this shit up, its like a breeding ground for stupid down here.

 

[Vausch]

"They were associated with [thing that some group likely has a thing against already] therefore it was the cause of [the horrible tragedy the person was involved in]".

Latest example: Mass Effect was responsible for the shooting in Connecticut.

I honestly was reading some posts concerning that and I think I felt my eyes start bleeding from the idiocy.... I can't believe how stupid people can be for this, especially when (as far as I know) they were complaining about the brother of the person who actually committed the shooting.

You'd think eventually people would realise this happens so often it's lost all meaning, but no. People keep using the attack.

In the last 50 years it was comic books, dungeons and dragons, various films, and now games because they're the easiest target.

I'm waiting for the day someone commits a crime and says "I saw it on the news and wanted to try it". Would love to see how that goes down.

 

[HannesPascal]

Slippery slope arguments annoy the fuck out of me.Just because one thing happens does not mean that something else,often completley unrelated,is going to follow

For example I've actually heard people say that if we allow gay marriage then before too long we'll have to remove the age of consent and legalise beastiality

So by allowing 2 consenting adults to legally marry we'll also have to allow people to legally fuck kids and animals

"Funny" thing regarding this. When homosexuality was legalised in Sweden so was bestiality because they were under the same clause in the law. Bestiality still hasn't been criminalised again.

OT: Anything resulting in Godwin's law I guess, for example Hitler was a vegetarian (I don't know if this is even true).

 

[Animyr]

We don't for sure how something happened? Then clearly it was magic.

Also known as the God (Ghosts? Aliens?) of the Gaps.

I'm not sure if it's the worst, per se, but it's pretty bad and quite common. For extra points, the person dead set on a paranormal explanation accuses skeptics of "not being open minded."

 

[wulf3n]

The person said this: "It's just funny how no one has any problems with firearms, or the second ammendment until something happens."
The responded to this saying "Yeah, it's funny how no one cared about food sanitation until The Jungle Was written, huh?"
So according to this guy, if you are indiffirent towards something or like it, and then find out something really bad about it, or something bad that can come from it, you should still be indiffirent/like it.

It depends on how you interpret what was said.

I read it not as people changing their minds, but more about people who already dislike guns only really discussing the issue when something happens, the rest of the time they just don't care.

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

I really don't understand what the OP is trying to say. The statement "It's just funny how no one has any problems with firearms, or the second ammendment until something happens" makes sense. Your friend is just saying that a lot of people don't have any opinion on some subject matter until something bad happens, in which case they suddenly jump the gun and start arguing for or against something, regardless of how much information they actually have on the subject matter. I have to agree with this because there are many cases where firearms for example have been good, but nobody gets in an uproar like they do when something bad happens. People just pay much more attention to the bad stuff.

"So according to this guy, if you are indiffirent towards something or like it, and then find out something really bad about it, or something bad that can come from it, you should still be indiffirent/like it."

I really have no idea how you came to interpret his comment this way. Maybe there is more context that I should know about but I don't think your friend is saying this at all.

It's quite a simple concept- We as humans tend not to realise something until it is too late- or until a mass cerecendo happens. For instance- During the late 1800s, food sanitation (Meat, to be extra spacific) was literally piss poor in the United States. People were eating rats, shit, dead bodies, assorted poisons, ect, with their meat, due to the lazyness and lack of caring by the meat packing industry. A man named Upton Sinclare wrote his book The Jungle which potrayed the lives of immigrants and the working class. It depicted conditions in the meat packing industry, along with showing corruption in buisness. This lead to people to be concerned. Why would you still be okay with something bad if you knew it was, just because you were fine with it before That's the point I'm trying to convay. I never jumped the gun, either, I was against the 2nd ammendment long before this instance. Another good example is people not knowing what they have or what to truely be thankful for until it's taken away, you need a big event to help you realize something.

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

The person said this: "It's just funny how no one has any problems with firearms, or the second ammendment until something happens."
The responded to this saying "Yeah, it's funny how no one cared about food sanitation until The Jungle Was written, huh?"
So according to this guy, if you are indiffirent towards something or like it, and then find out something really bad about it, or something bad that can come from it, you should still be indiffirent/like it.

It depends on how you interpret what was said.

I read it not as people changing their minds, but more about people who already dislike guns only really discussing the issue when something happens, the rest of the time they just don't care.

Meh, I tend to not discuss political issues unless provoked in a previous manner. The actual issue didn't provoke me to type this, what people were saying it about it was the reason.

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

Well I live in Texas, so I usually can't go a day without hearing something that is stupid a hell. But the one that really takes the cake.

I was talking to my grandfather about evolution or something in public then this dumb ***** told me that anything that contradicts the bible is a lie and dinosaurs were tricks placed in the ground by satan to steer the true believers off the path of God.

I swear I'm not making this shit up, its like a breeding ground for stupid down here.

My god- Is humanity getting dumber?

 

[bat32391]

Well I live in Texas, so I usually can't go a day without hearing something that is stupid a hell. But the one that really takes the cake.

I was talking to my grandfather about evolution or something in public then this dumb ***** told me that anything that contradicts the bible is a lie and dinosaurs were tricks placed in the ground by satan to steer the true believers off the path of God.

I swear I'm not making this shit up, its like a breeding ground for stupid down here.

My god- Is humanity getting dumber?

I don't know about anywhere else, but it seems to be in my area.

 

[Mycroft Holmes]

I had a guy tell me that Agnosticism was Christianity because I wasn't allowed to sit on the fence. He then disproved world famous logician Descarte's maxim: 'cogito ergo sum' 'I think therefore I am.' Because(completely ignoring what the statement actually says about metaphysical provability) 'it says there is nothing and there can't be nothing.'

I also had someone call me a ******, and then in the next sentence tell me that he has had a devil's threesome. IE two dudes on one girl. Which not that there's anything wrong with that, but you have to admit it's a little hard to call someone gay and then be talking about how you're so straight because you had a threesome involving another dude.

Worst argument ever:'guns don't kill people, people kill people'.

Problem is that your country is too far gone. It is a part of your society. Enjoy killing yourselves off america. It is your own dumb fault.

How is that a bad argument? Guns literally do not kill people. You can leave a gun in the middle of the woods, and unless someone walks over and loads it before pulling the trigger, its not going to hurt anyone. Even Michael Moore who made a freaking movie about gun control admits that it's a correct argument on the Huffington post of all places. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/its-the-guns-_b_1700218.html

And what has gone too far? Glorification of violence in the culture or guns in the culture? If the former then I agree, if the latter then that makes no sense. Guns are a giant part of lots of cultures. Switzerland is right behind us in guns per capita, but they have a much lower per capita murder rate. Russia has way fewer guns than we do, but they have a higher murder rate. Even Mexico has way less guns than the US and a way higher murder rate. Australia has a murder rate roughly the same as the US and they banned guns. The murder rates have little to nothing to do with gun availability, people will find a way no matter what if they want to. There is a metric for determining how likely crime will be in a country, but it ain't guns.

 

[Akisa]

Yeah, that second amendment. "Well regulated milita..." and all. Also, when it was adopted in 1791, firearms were single-shot muskets or pistols. They had bayonettes on them, because reloading sometimes took long enough for the enemy to run over and attack you. One can only imagine what Thomas Jefferson would have thought about it if he had seen assault rifles or just a standard 15+ cartridge Glock.

Well they were aware of breech loaded rifles which were quicker to reload (they were also fielded in the American Revolutionary war), they were just wide spread in military because it was more expensive to issue in mass.

 

[Nouw]

Some idiot at a party had spent thousands of dollars on new studio equipment.
They guy claimed that the best music in the world to make was symphonic metal, because it's "the most advanced form of music". Yah, like fucking adding a bazillion instruments makes music automatically more complex and more interesting, dochebag.

Complex? Well yeah, adding more instruments is going to make a piece of music more complex because there are more parts to compose that need to compliment one and each other but other than that you can't really make any claims of being 'interesting' since that's subjective.

Of course it also comes down to how the instruments are being used but I have faith they're not all playing the same thing .