Oh okay. 70 million seemed like a little bit of an overestimate is all. I'll have to give that book a read when i get the chance.Wouldukindly said:Exactly, there's a whole half chapter on it in the book.space_oddity said:"China scholars agree that the famine during the Great Leap Forward caused tens of millions of deaths. Chang and Halliday argue that this period accounts for roughly half of the 70 million total. An official estimate by Hu Yaobang in 1980 put the death toll at 20 million, whereas Philip Short in his 2000 book Mao: A Life found 20 to 30 million to be the most credible number. Chang and Halliday's figure is 37.67 million, which historian Stuart Schram indicated that he believes "may well be the most accurate."[7]Wouldukindly said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_The_Unknown_Story This novel is where I got my figures from, wikipedia has the best picturespace_oddity said:Can i ask for a non-wikipedia source? Just so i know the numbers are solid.
Also; Hitlers relation to Communism?
I said the Hitler one just out of comparison to a dictator we hold in a very infamous regard, instead of say the Russian leader we allied with who actually killed more people through his government.
Professor R. J. Rummel published updated figures on world-wide democide in 2005, stating that he believed Chang and Halliday's estimates to be mostly correct and that he had revised his figures for China under Mao accordingly."
From the link you just gave me.
But yeah we are getting off topic