ohh yeah and no killstreaks, and btw anyone hu says tourneys fags are taking the fun outta games, we dont play with NODE players so you wouldnt know that were fags.
These are the rules that the actual pros play MW2 by
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I apologize, I wasn't referring to anyone here (neither did I state I was, so please be careful when you jump to conclusions).Contextualizer said:Who is showboating? Who exactly is showboating?CommyGingerbreadMan said:
The person in question was extremely humble, respectful, and laidback throughout that gigantic thread, which is a lot more than I can say for a lot of the people who apparently have had their lives ruined by competitive gaming here.
Some of you are perceiving an attack against your preferences that doesn't exist. Does anyone understand that?
When you think dedicating a class against an unbalanced game mechanic makes the game mechanic not unbalanced, then you're doing it wrong.
Plenty of servers in many games have limitations towards spawn camping, attacking certain bases (BF2/Crysis Wars), certain weapons (sniper only or pistol/knife only servers), or certain vehicles (Crysis Wars). But I guess if you've never known the beauty of dedicated servers, you just think you have to accept all the griefing, exploits, and game breaks.
And that's sad
And dedicating a certain class does kind of make it unbalanced, seeing as if one certain item everyone has access to can nearly nullify something. It's like pokemon, when going up against a fire type as a grass type, is that unbalanced because you like grass type and refuse to change up your strategy? No. There's a work around for everything. If the developers are shown there isn't, it usually gets patched (L4D Original: Smoker insta-kills. Valve deemed it was too easy to create a slight chaos to lead to someone dying instantly, not only in places it didn't make sense).
Spawn camping isn't as cheap as your making it out to be. It didn't happen because the game willed it. It was because the other teams skill was better then your own. They chased you back to your spawn and are reaping the benefits of having better skill. You shouldn't punish people for having better skill, but that's exactly what limiting does. It punishes others because some havn't (or couldn't be bothered to) way of thinking around. Instead they simply stamp it undefeatable and then other people come to their side to hold their hand.
As far as dedicated servers. . . yea I miss those. Unfortunately being a console gamer, you have to get used to these things as they will never go away. But I do not miss the ever more prominent problem of hacking from PC.
I didn't say you did, but that doesn't take away your two paragraph long insulting rant against pro gamers.CommyGingerbreadMan said:
Right, and when there's no workaround or if the unbalanced factor ends up becoming a central part of the game instead of focusing on the foundation of the game, then you have to set up rules in competitive play.
I don't give a crap about pubbers or whatever tactics they use. They might get me a couple times with their tubes or their akimbo shotguns, but I somehow manage to end up in first or second place in nearly every match I play with nothing more than a silenced FAL, silenced P90, or silenced M16 (and no stopping power!). But I also use killstreaks and tactical insertions, because the game's rules allow me to.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Haha, you're not understanding what I'm saying. There are important reasons why spawn camping isn't allowed, especially in incapturable areas. It's not the same thing as camping, because camping is very easy to get around. Spawn camping is not. Attacking an incap base with helicopters, tanks, and jets is not.
Otherwise, there isn't any game. And at that point, it doesn't come down to skill or anything. I really think you should try playing more FPS games on the PC if you want to see what I mean.
Ever more prominent problem? Maybe if you're playing a console-ized PC game like MW2 where there are no admins or systems for votekicking/banning. Try actually playing PC games these days. PunkBuster does a damn good job and for whatever it misses, that's what an admin is for.
Besides, all the glitches I'm seeing end up being shown off on the Xbox 360.
I think you've got to take MW2 as what it is. It is a fast paced arcade shooter and not a semi-realistic combat simulation. The one element which adds a bit of strategy is the ability to pick the right kit for the right map and the right opponents.
If the other team is full of noob-tubers (and by the way i don't mean this in a derogatory sense cause i'll use anything to be successful) then get a blast shield. If the other team is full of snipers and you can't get close enough to their position to kill them then i switch to a stealth kit (silencer, cold blooded and ninja) and flank them...drop a tactical insertion and pick them off one by one.
The only example of overpowered that i saw in MW2 was the 1668 akimbos and they've patched that problem. Basically every gun, perk, tactic has a viable counter that you can use if you understand the game and learn to use all its elements.
If you take away all of these things then you're essentially playing counterstrike.
If the other team is full of noob-tubers (and by the way i don't mean this in a derogatory sense cause i'll use anything to be successful) then get a blast shield. If the other team is full of snipers and you can't get close enough to their position to kill them then i switch to a stealth kit (silencer, cold blooded and ninja) and flank them...drop a tactical insertion and pick them off one by one.
The only example of overpowered that i saw in MW2 was the 1668 akimbos and they've patched that problem. Basically every gun, perk, tactic has a viable counter that you can use if you understand the game and learn to use all its elements.
If you take away all of these things then you're essentially playing counterstrike.
Oh yea, if its unbalanced and no one does a damn thing about it. Then by all means ban it.Contextualizer said:
I was more insulting those who go around saying PRO as if it means "better then ______". And I use to play Battlefield on the PC waay back when.
Also I now know you mean someone sitting in an area spawn camping, not a team chashing another back. A slight downside to posting at 3AM. Once again Sorry. I agree it is cheap, and the workaround as far as I see is getting lucky and spawning inside a building or whatnot. And yea, punkbuster stops alot, but I can youtube videos and its all a program thing, meanwhile youtube videos for Xboxs and you have to open the case, and tutorials ca only do so much. SOmetimes people break the Xbox or they miss a step and ruin it all, only the really douchebagish of them take it to the end and have it work. Also like I said before, the reason most of the videos are Xboxs is because step by step process, not download this, now install it. As far as Ive seen anyway on other peoples computers (MAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYBEEE my own)
Wow, I wish I could be a douchelord that could make a new rule every time someone gets a bullshit kill on me in a game. I hate claymores too, but I don't say it's bullshit that people use them. It's if's such a huge concern, use SitRep. Oh no, you can't use SitRep because then you can't use Commando or Ninja, you witchblading little *****!
Hey, why don't we play a game of PROFESSIONAL MONOPOLY, where you're not allowed to own more than 67% of any property type, the bank always owns the train stations, and only get $43 every time you pass Go?
Hey, why don't we play a game of PROFESSIONAL MONOPOLY, where you're not allowed to own more than 67% of any property type, the bank always owns the train stations, and only get $43 every time you pass Go?
Ah, ninja'd.Jonny49 said:
I agree. I hate the way people always ***** about others using grenade launchers and the good weapons, like the M4 or the P90, so I shall be forced to quote PhillyD.
"If someone gave you the choice between having a small penis, or a large penis, would you pick the smaller penis because it requires more skill? Didn't think so."
What I play by/generally like to play with:
No akimbo shotguns
No Last Stand
Anything else is fair game.
No akimbo shotguns
No Last Stand
Anything else is fair game.
I don't understand why One Man Army and Bling are banned, but the rest makes sense.
Although no banning of Marathon + Lightweight + Commando + Tac Knife? No banning of Last Stand?
Although no banning of Marathon + Lightweight + Commando + Tac Knife? No banning of Last Stand?
its the same as for competitioning is SSBB
somones taken all the perks to winning out
a kill streak is a reward somthing for a job well done
a death streak is a little hellping hand
theese rules are just by people who cant play normally
somones taken all the perks to winning out
a kill streak is a reward somthing for a job well done
a death streak is a little hellping hand
theese rules are just by people who cant play normally
Hm, yeah. Good point, I hadn't thought of it that way. I guess just the removal of killstreaks already makes people a lot less inclined to spend the entire match hiding in a corner trying to score cheap kills.MetallicaRulez0 said:
I don't understand why people are hating on this so much. It's pretty similar to the banning of drugs in professional sport - they give one player/team an unfair advantage. And also the whole 'drugs are bad' thing I guess.
Yeah I prefer playing with Claymores and what have you but I know what it's like to lose to something that's bullshit unfair. Like when the Tank spawned in random places for both team in Left 4 Dead; one team got the Tank in an open space and tore it to shreds, the other got it in a claustrophic corridor with no place to run and got destroyed.
Ultimately what people think is fun is subjective so you can't complain. I don't find getting destroyed by a Blue Shell in Mario Kart particularly fun, but my friends play MKWii with items on Frantic and have loads of fun.
Yeah I prefer playing with Claymores and what have you but I know what it's like to lose to something that's bullshit unfair. Like when the Tank spawned in random places for both team in Left 4 Dead; one team got the Tank in an open space and tore it to shreds, the other got it in a claustrophic corridor with no place to run and got destroyed.
Ultimately what people think is fun is subjective so you can't complain. I don't find getting destroyed by a Blue Shell in Mario Kart particularly fun, but my friends play MKWii with items on Frantic and have loads of fun.
