Things you are sick of hearing

[Dags90]

-"Lost my faith in humanity."
-People talking about human nature as if it's completely quantifiable fact.
-Music/Movies/TV is dying because I heard/saw something I didn't like.
-"What's that smell?"

 

[teh_Canape]

something I hate, and they keep repeating it to me all the time:

"god is the way to your salvation, stop being who you are and be who I want you to be"

not to disrespect anybody who believes in any religion, but, keep it to yourself, dont sell religion to me, because I aint buying it

 

[Doc Cannon]

I'm sick of conformist comments.
I'm sick of intolerant comments.

(And I love how those two sentences are the exact same length).

 

[monnes]

I am aware that the artists and the suits are just the tip of the iceberg, but I think that industries like the music industry, which main purpose (as i see it) is to keep the status quo so that the few elite artists are on top and no other artist has a real shot. Piracy has changed this, as I mentioned in an earlier post.

I would have to disagree. Many budding musicians are held back by the fact they can't make enough to make it big because people don't buy their records. Why don't people buy their records? Because they steal their music instead. There's no use in being a popular musician if you can't make any money out of it, is there? You do realise actually buying their stuff might actually might make the music industry take them on, after all the purpose of any industry is to make money and the little people who put on some good shows but don't sell records aren't going to do that, are they?

I notice that a lot of the big bands in the music industry, the ones that people here look down their noses at, are the kinds of things naive parents might buy for their kids or themselves. This isn't the demographic you'd be expecting to pirate things. Funny, huh?
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I'm terrible at handling this forum system
As I mentioned earlier, I belive musicians should earn their money frome live shows, and piracy helps spread the word about the artists, so that they can build an audience.

Okay, now I don't know what you're talking about.

I don't think that industries like the music industry exist to keep artists from making art. I think they exist because art is also entertainment and entertainment is something people will pay for and money makes the world go blah blah blah.

I also don't think that pirates are the magical wave of the future bringing truth, freedom and art to the masses. I think, by and large, they're fucking thieves who don't feel like paying things and want to construct elaborate moral compasses that make it okay to break laws the repercussions for which they never see.

And if the laws that are put in place to protect the music industry dissolve and the music industry falls apart, well, then I hope you didn't like listening to new music on the radio because that will also stop happening.

?which is kind of why I'm sick of hearing about things like this.

Well this is where we really differ on opinion. While the music industry's purpose isn't to keep the status quo, it is an effect of its existance. An example is that 25 or so years ago, there weren't nearly as much choise in music as their is today. I belive that this is because budding bands and artists had no shot to be heard when the music industry kept a small amount of artists and bands on the top. Now, caused by what I belive is piracy, there is a huge amount of artists and bands who can live off their music, and while there still always a few top artists, the gap has decreased immensly.

But, this is all politics and opinions, so feel free to disagree.

 

[JuryNelson]

I belive that this is because budding bands and artists had no shot to be heard when the music industry kept a small amount of artists and bands on the top. Now, caused by what I belive is piracy, there is a huge amount of artists and bands who can live off their music, and while there still always a few top artists, the gap has decreased immensly.

But, this is all politics and opinions, so feel free to disagree.

I will feel free to disagree!

 

[Cheery Lunatic]

"hurr durr my faith in humanity has dropped to zero"

Stop. Just stop.

Spoiler: I love you, man.

OT: Being insulted for living in the South. Seriously, it's so annoying. So many dipshits seem to think that everyone is a redneck or a hillbilly if they live in the South. I like living in Texas, goddammit.

 

[monnes]

I belive that this is because budding bands and artists had no shot to be heard when the music industry kept a small amount of artists and bands on the top. Now, caused by what I belive is piracy, there is a huge amount of artists and bands who can live off their music, and while there still always a few top artists, the gap has decreased immensly.

But, this is all politics and opinions, so feel free to disagree.

I will feel free to disagree!

I totally came off douche-y with that last comment. Not intentionally though

 

[jacobgr43]

anything about video games making people violent

 

[Orbot_Vectorman]

"Your tall"

I'M 6'5 I KNOW IM F*CKING TALL BY NOW! >=[

You should reply "Thank you Mr. Obvious."
and yea, I get that alot as well... 6'3'' or something like that... I know I'm taller than 6'

 

[Arsen]

Xenophobic? Pfft.

You don't like the term, don't exhibit the behavior. Your prior rant about immigrants and crime and the burdens they cause is classic xenophobia, and blustering won't change that. Neither will dishonest attempts to allude to made-up "statistics":

Sorry to quote statistics here [sic; you didn't] but it's inarguably true.

... that we both know you don't and can't have. (The venerable Pseudo-Statistic-Pulled-from-the-Arse is another common signpost of xenophobic and racist discourse. It has to be, because they're habits of mind that flounder in the face of actual nonpartisan studies, which consistently show that immigrants -- legal and otherwise -- are statistically less likely to become criminals than prior residents. Cf. Gaskin and Wilson's The Politics of Immigration: Questions and Answers.)

Sorry you like to boil everything down to name calling and all that

Sorry you don't like being frankly called out on what you're doing, but then you wouldn't, would you? When you show some interest in actual "debate" rather than ignorant ranting, I'll regard you with more respect.

Oh come on now. I said absolutely nothing against immigrants. Illegals and immigrants are two entirely different categorizations of people.

I like how you took everything which shows a favorable viewpoint to what you believe in and tried to make it seem as if you know what you are talking about. Sorry, but the burdens created by the illegals on our society is so apparent that it doesn't even require statistics to state. Look them up yourself there dude. They've been there for a long time and continously grow. Anything else you're willing to attempt to shove down my throat in terms of mock intellect? Seriously, your generalizations are by far worse than mine. Not only that, but you didn't read into anything I said.

Accusations of racism are the easiest tool to use as well. I have friends who are of MExican descent and from my time on the West Coast I hung out with quite a bit of people with that ancestry you claim I am ranting against. Once you find some relevant "illogical" notation in my words then get back with me, until then leave the baseless claims off the board there bub.

But overall you're not looking at the harm caused by illegal immigration in massive numbers. You are attempting to shrug it off as irrelevant and biased, but in the end human beings such as I have to live with the consequences of their actions for many years to come. It is not right and there is nothing else which needs to be said about the issue.

 

[Arsen]

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/
http://www.usillegalaliens.com/the_costs_of_illegal_immigration.html

I can't wait for the rebuttal to this. It's going to be hilarious seeing you try to argue with numbers. What's next? Dismiss the source? This is just from barely googling anything there. Go right ahead and accuse it of being biased, overly dominant to one viewpoint, etc etc. Point of the matter is you're one of those human beings who believe that the people coming onto my land have this rightful reason (those illegally doing so that is) to do so and you are not against it. It's beyond immoral and has no other defense that can even remotely be brought to the table.

End of Thread.

 

[Arsen]

What's next? Dismiss the source?

Tell you what: go to library and check out the widely-respected nonpartisan cite that I already provided you several posts ago, and then you come back and tell me yourself how well the numbers on your randomly-Googled wingnut website hold up. (I can tell you how well they hold up looking at just the first two links on that website, but I know in advance that your reaction would be bluster and blanket denial, so it's not really worth my time.)

Or, you know, don't tell me. Obviously you're in Defensive Mode and would rather die than admit error to me at this point. I get it. Just do it anyway, for yourself. Who knows but you might actually learn something.

Widely respected does not mean "factual". Sorry, but you're ignoring the overly biased methods of argument you are giving.

Oncemore, I have no moral obligation to care about the conditions of others in a country that is thieving from my resources, regardless of whatever reason they claim to have or whatever some other human beings earns praise from whomever. It's irrelevant.

 

[Arsen]

Widely respected does not mean "factual".

If you haven't the courage to read research on the topic that draws conclusions you don't like, you're in no position to make accusations of "bias."

Oncemore, I have no moral obligation to care about the conditions of others in a country that is thieving from my resources

And I have no moral obligation to give a shit what excuses you provide for your xenophobia. And I really don't.

So in other words you only cited a research that you have this "belief" that I would find disagreeable? Wow. Says something about your entire approach to this whole subject. And you call me the troll. How amusing.

 

[Con Carne]

I'm tired of hearing about console wars. You all know what's said, I'll leave it at that.

 

[QuickDEMOL1SHER]

"All Halo fans are 8 year old idiots who can't go three seconds without shout something obscene"

It's just getting ridiculous.