Things you are sick of hearing
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You're only seeing the front of the mask. The "music industry" comprises WAAAAAAAAAAY more than just musicians. The Music Industry has the use of keeping hundreds of thousands of marketers and lawyers and album artists and recording engineers and CD reproduction plant workers and lighting technicians and vocal coaches and journalists employed.monnes said:The music industry has no use but to keep a few elite artists on top, and keeping everyone else down. From what I've seen, downloading music has helped thousand upon thousands of artists to become famous enough that people actually come to their shows. I could ofcourse be wrong, I won't lie, I havn't really researched the subject. It's sad that thousands lose their job, but if their job serves no purpose then their manpower could be of better use elsewhere.JuryNelson said:You just built a coherent argument, so I don't really have a problem with you. Provided that you are willing to accept that you are proposing a model that tears down the one that currently exists and puts hundreds of thousands of humans with families and aspirations out of work.monnes said:So if i would say, for example, that I download music because I belive music should be free, and recorded to promote ones live appereances, that'd just piss you off, wouldn't it?JuryNelson said:
Hypotheticals are fun, arn't they?
Now downloading films and games is a whole other issue.
Your line about "if their job serves no purpose then their manpower could be of better use elsewhere" could make this list, too. Their job DOES serve a purpose, but it's just one that you never see. Or, more universally, their job serves the purpose of being a job and paying for things. We can't all be sunshine and giggle salesmen, some folks have to build the stage for a Ke$ha concert to pay for a mortgage.
What it comes down to is this: I'm all for playing "Fuck-the-man," but it is irresponsible to act like you don't know why things are this way. THAT'S what makes me tired about people complaining about piracy. These people aren't damsel-kidnapping mustache-twirlers, they just see the world differently.
I am aware that the artists and the suits are just the tip of the iceberg, but I think that industries like the music industry, which main purpose (as i see it) is to keep the status quo so that the few elite artists are on top and no other artist has a real shot. Piracy has changed this, as I mentioned in an earlier post. But the way I see it, for the world to evolve, an industry which can't survive without help from the goverment (in this case, with the help of a number of laws) doesn't deserve to live.JuryNelson said:You're only seeing the front of the mask. The "music industry" comprises WAAAAAAAAAAY more than just musicians. The Music Industry has the use of keeping hundreds of thousands of marketers and lawyers and album artists and recording engineers and CD reproduction plant workers and lighting technicians and vocal coaches and journalists employed.monnes said:The music industry has no use but to keep a few elite artists on top, and keeping everyone else down. From what I've seen, downloading music has helped thousand upon thousands of artists to become famous enough that people actually come to their shows. I could ofcourse be wrong, I won't lie, I havn't really researched the subject. It's sad that thousands lose their job, but if their job serves no purpose then their manpower could be of better use elsewhere.JuryNelson said:You just built a coherent argument, so I don't really have a problem with you. Provided that you are willing to accept that you are proposing a model that tears down the one that currently exists and puts hundreds of thousands of humans with families and aspirations out of work.monnes said:So if i would say, for example, that I download music because I belive music should be free, and recorded to promote ones live appereances, that'd just piss you off, wouldn't it?JuryNelson said:
Hypotheticals are fun, arn't they?
Now downloading films and games is a whole other issue.
Your line about "if their job serves no purpose then their manpower could be of better use elsewhere" could make this list, too. Their job DOES serve a purpose, but it's just one that you never see. Or, more universally, their job serves the purpose of being a job and paying for things. We can't all be sunshine and giggle salesmen, some folks have to build the stage for a Ke$ha concert to pay for a mortgage.
What it comes down to is this: I'm all for playing "Fuck-the-man," but it is irresponsible to act like you don't know why things are this way. THAT'S what makes me tired about people complaining about piracy. These people aren't damsel-kidnapping mustache-twirlers, they just see the world differently.
And what I really ment earlier was that a job that which serves no purpose other than to be a job could be of better use.
Touchè comrade, touchè.monnes said:
No, I deem my statement as an attack on Ignorance, not the political view of some of those whom poseess it. I respect the republicans just as much as members of my own party if they are able to give good reason for doing so, I firmly believe that "cheap booze" isn't a good reason. Those whom follow an ideology like sheep follow a sheperd without thought or ideas of their own have no respect to espect from me! If you want to stand for something, you need a good reason.
monnes said:I am aware that the artists and the suits are just the tip of the iceberg, but I think that industries like the music industry, which main purpose (as i see it) is to keep the status quo so that the few elite artists are on top and no other artist has a real shot. Piracy has changed this, as I mentioned in an earlier post. But the way I see it, for the world to evolve, an industry which can't survive without help from the goverment (in this case, with the help of a number of laws) doesn't deserve to live.JuryNelson said:You're only seeing the front of the mask. The "music industry" comprises WAAAAAAAAAAY more than just musicians. The Music Industry has the use of keeping hundreds of thousands of marketers and lawyers and album artists and recording engineers and CD reproduction plant workers and lighting technicians and vocal coaches and journalists employed.monnes said:The music industry has no use but to keep a few elite artists on top, and keeping everyone else down. From what I've seen, downloading music has helped thousand upon thousands of artists to become famous enough that people actually come to their shows. I could ofcourse be wrong, I won't lie, I havn't really researched the subject. It's sad that thousands lose their job, but if their job serves no purpose then their manpower could be of better use elsewhere.JuryNelson said:You just built a coherent argument, so I don't really have a problem with you. Provided that you are willing to accept that you are proposing a model that tears down the one that currently exists and puts hundreds of thousands of humans with families and aspirations out of work.monnes said:So if i would say, for example, that I download music because I belive music should be free, and recorded to promote ones live appereances, that'd just piss you off, wouldn't it?JuryNelson said:
Hypotheticals are fun, arn't they?
Now downloading films and games is a whole other issue.
Your line about "if their job serves no purpose then their manpower could be of better use elsewhere" could make this list, too. Their job DOES serve a purpose, but it's just one that you never see. Or, more universally, their job serves the purpose of being a job and paying for things. We can't all be sunshine and giggle salesmen, some folks have to build the stage for a Ke$ha concert to pay for a mortgage.
What it comes down to is this: I'm all for playing "Fuck-the-man," but it is irresponsible to act like you don't know why things are this way. THAT'S what makes me tired about people complaining about piracy. These people aren't damsel-kidnapping mustache-twirlers, they just see the world differently.
And what I really ment earlier was that a job that which serves no purpose other than to be a job could be of better use.
Fair enough, I was mostly just kiddingRenamedsin said:
Me: "So yea, I'm an Atheist. Nothing big, re-"
Dumbass: "OMGWTFBBQ! HEATHEN, THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELLS THEE!!!!11!!OBAHETAYVCNSBQIKEM!!!!!!!"
I get a lot of these, seeing as though I live in Arkansas. Pisses me the hell off.
Dumbass: "OMGWTFBBQ! HEATHEN, THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELLS THEE!!!!11!!OBAHETAYVCNSBQIKEM!!!!!!!"
I get a lot of these, seeing as though I live in Arkansas. Pisses me the hell off.
Okay, now I don't know what you're talking about.monnes said:I am aware that the artists and the suits are just the tip of the iceberg, but I think that industries like the music industry, which main purpose (as i see it) is to keep the status quo so that the few elite artists are on top and no other artist has a real shot. Piracy has changed this, as I mentioned in an earlier post. But the way I see it, for the world to evolve, an industry which can't survive without help from the goverment (in this case, with the help of a number of laws) doesn't deserve to live.JuryNelson said:You're only seeing the front of the mask. The "music industry" comprises WAAAAAAAAAAY more than just musicians. The Music Industry has the use of keeping hundreds of thousands of marketers and lawyers and album artists and recording engineers and CD reproduction plant workers and lighting technicians and vocal coaches and journalists employed.monnes said:The music industry has no use but to keep a few elite artists on top, and keeping everyone else down. From what I've seen, downloading music has helped thousand upon thousands of artists to become famous enough that people actually come to their shows. I could ofcourse be wrong, I won't lie, I havn't really researched the subject. It's sad that thousands lose their job, but if their job serves no purpose then their manpower could be of better use elsewhere.JuryNelson said:You just built a coherent argument, so I don't really have a problem with you. Provided that you are willing to accept that you are proposing a model that tears down the one that currently exists and puts hundreds of thousands of humans with families and aspirations out of work.monnes said:So if i would say, for example, that I download music because I belive music should be free, and recorded to promote ones live appereances, that'd just piss you off, wouldn't it?JuryNelson said:
Hypotheticals are fun, arn't they?
Now downloading films and games is a whole other issue.
Your line about "if their job serves no purpose then their manpower could be of better use elsewhere" could make this list, too. Their job DOES serve a purpose, but it's just one that you never see. Or, more universally, their job serves the purpose of being a job and paying for things. We can't all be sunshine and giggle salesmen, some folks have to build the stage for a Ke$ha concert to pay for a mortgage.
What it comes down to is this: I'm all for playing "Fuck-the-man," but it is irresponsible to act like you don't know why things are this way. THAT'S what makes me tired about people complaining about piracy. These people aren't damsel-kidnapping mustache-twirlers, they just see the world differently.
And what I really ment earlier was that a job that which serves no purpose other than to be a job could be of better use.
I don't think that industries like the music industry exist to keep artists from making art. I think they exist because art is also entertainment and entertainment is something people will pay for and money makes the world go blah blah blah.
I also don't think that pirates are the magical wave of the future bringing truth, freedom and art to the masses. I think, by and large, they're fucking thieves who don't feel like paying things and want to construct elaborate moral compasses that make it okay to break laws the repercussions for which they never see.
And if the laws that are put in place to protect the music industry dissolve and the music industry falls apart, well, then I hope you didn't like listening to new music on the radio because that will also stop happening.
?which is kind of why I'm sick of hearing about things like this.
Yo' mamma jokes
'That games crap'
'What your favourite gun on CoD 6?'
'Is it 'cus im a ninja/pimp'
anything to do with the world cup
'That games crap'
'What your favourite gun on CoD 6?'
'Is it 'cus im a ninja/pimp'
anything to do with the world cup
The music industry already is falling apart and I blame it on the pirates. Most people I know pirate from bands that haven't even made it big yet and thus possibly never will since they'll never make enough money from people stealing their shit. And even bigger groups aren't immune from losing lots of money due to piracy.JuryNelson said:
Even movies aren't safe any more. Why would you pay for a movie when you can find a good quality stream on the net for free? Most people I know now do this and barely ever go to the movies to make sure that the people who spend millions on the things actually get a decent return.
The only reason I've ever downloaded CDs was out of laziness (they were all up at home which was a three hour drive away) but I still felt very guilty. But there are people who download Gigs of the stuff every week and convince themselves that it's okay.
I would have to disagree. Many budding musicians are held back by the fact they can't make enough to make it big because people don't buy their records. Why don't people buy their records? Because they steal their music instead. There's no use in being a popular musician if you can't make any money out of it, is there? You do realise actually buying their stuff might actually might make the music industry take them on, after all the purpose of any industry is to make money and the little people who put on some good shows but don't sell records aren't going to do that, are they?monnes said:
I notice that a lot of the big bands in the music industry, the ones that people here look down their noses at, are the kinds of things naive parents might buy for their kids or themselves. This isn't the demographic you'd be expecting to pirate things. Funny, huh?
Where do I begin?
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- The "words" *sarcastic air quotes* 'emo' and 'pwned.' I cringe every time I read/hear either of them.
- People hating on Nintendo and the Wii
- Twilight hatedom. Seriously, STFU already, you haters are way more annoying then the fans are.
- Gamers complaining about shit that's ultimately insignificant.
- Most Internet memes, esp. the Chuck Norris jokes.
- People bashing the Star Wars prequel trilogy.
...that's all I can think of at the moment.
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This. Baa baa baa'll ra-aam you.Swifteye said:
- The "words" *sarcastic air quotes* 'emo' and 'pwned.' I cringe every time I read/hear either of them.
- People hating on Nintendo and the Wii
- Twilight hatedom. Seriously, STFU already, you haters are way more annoying then the fans are.
- Gamers complaining about shit that's ultimately insignificant.
- Most Internet memes, esp. the Chuck Norris jokes.
- People bashing the Star Wars prequel trilogy.
...that's all I can think of at the moment.
