Things you'd like to see changed in America

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Haha oh wow, what's it like not having a spine?

I don't really know. So far no one has been able to tread on me.

What's it like lacking a brain?

 

[axia777]

Non American here, few things.

1) Metric system. Nuff said
2) Football uses feet, American Football uses hands and is similar to rugby, therefore American Rugby.
3) World Series means the whole world not just the US, incidentally, I think the Japanese won one of the baseball world series?
4) the US owe China a lot of money. Please pay it back, it's getting scary.
5) Bad foreign languages in Hollywood, where even the Chinese can't speak Mandarin and people speaking Cantonese and Mandarin can communicate without any problems

All of this with an added:

6) Institute a National Health Care system so we can be like every other modern industrialized nation in the entire world. Public health care in just a non issue in all the other nations. We are woefully behind on this issue.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Man, I had a good laugh. I had a good long laugh. The absolute level of how naive you Euroweenies are. I can only attribute such stupidity to higher education. You HAVE to have gone to college to be this stupid.

Well considering that america is the bastard child of europe, the laugh is just as much on your expense. But let's not get all historical shall we.

I love how Europeans are so quick to judge yet:
1.) They're allowing Europe to be turned into Saudi Europa. It would seem that you lot decry anyone that might speak out against Islam as a racist. Supposed Multi-cultural ignoramus actions that will only ensure more violence within your own countries. Now, watch me be accused of being a racist as if it mattered and simply because they can't come up with a proper response.

I would never do such a thing. A true sign of a REAL ignoramus is using the "racist" tactic. Another true sign of ignorance is being afraid of other cultures.

The Saudi's can come here all they like. If they're not packing heat, there's nothing to fear from them.

Besides, the U.S and A already cover irrational fears for the rest of the world as it is. No need to add up to it. ; )

2.) Rwanda. All that needs be brought up. Neither America nor Europe lifted much of a finger to help there. This is where the UN must be changed. The US, as flawed as it is, is the best war fighter for actually solving nations. If her commanders and politicians are competent, which now they are for a good deal, they can do things European Militaries under UN Flag can't.

You can't solve other countries conflicts by butting in. It has nothing to do with "incompetent commanders and politicians" the very tactic is simply begging for failure.

If Rwanda suffers from genocide and conflict it's their problem. If Rwanda's people don't like it and want freedom and democracy like we have, then it's up to them to fight for it, or reform into it if they can. You can't "give" freedom and democracy to a war torn country, history has shown us that. Learn from history and move on, instead of trying to be an unrealistic superhero.

I absolutely love this naive idea of Nukes for Food. I really hope you realize the silly nature of such a claim. I can't believe someone would display such fervor about a subject and not know a thing about it. For starters: Where are you going to put the left overs?

Secondly, I do love how all you care about are American nuclear munitions and not Russian munitions. They can't find some. So, that begs the question: What is more scary? An American nuclear missile, in a silo, in the midwest, gathering dust as a relic of the Cold War? Or a Russian Warhead that goes unaccounted for?

I don't worry much about nukes at all, because no country possessing the slightest of sanity would ever fire one, because it would effectlvely kill everyone.

That still doesn't rectify the fact that nukes have always been a waste of money. They are just sitting there doing nothing acting as perfect targets for terrorists.

Dismantling is the only thing to do.

So, here are a few things I could say might make Europe better:
1.) Stand up for yourselves and stop being afraid you'll offend.

I am. It's just that there's a huge difference in "standing up for oneself" and butting in in conflicts where I don't belong and should justly stay out of. This is something the United States simply doesn't understand.

2.) Stop the irrational America hate, there are worse things happening in your nations than the influence of one across the Atlantic.

There is nothing irrational about actively condemning the actions of the U.S military outside it's home borders. You'd have to be an american yourself for not seeing that.

Most countries already adress their own issues, and that's fine. What grinds my gears is when governments run by retards starts to adress other countries issues which they have NOTHING to do with.

3.) Do something about Darfur. If you really want to one up the US, do something about Darfur. Sending money doesn't count, guess where that cash ends up? It's retarded to simply throw money at a problem and expect it to be fixed.

No, if "doing something about it" entails military intervention, then it would be foolish. It will not solve anything. If throwing money at it entails giving refugees and non-combatants a chance at survival, then it is a humanitarian action, and if any country considers affording it, then it is their choice to spend that money.

But military intervention will not solve anything. The U.S didn't solve shit in Vietnam, and they pretty much started the mess in Iraq, and didn't solve anything there either.

Isolationism and neutrality is still the best course of action.

There must be military action. If you are going to nag and moan about America being too religious (Which by the way, is a right citizens have no matter how silly their beliefs are) and not humanistic enough, why is it that you don't want to help fellow humans being hunted down like cattle? Because, you're shut-in cretins that some how think you have the world figured out and identified a singular cause that just so happens to like Apple Pie and Baseball. America's arrogance is complemented so well with European ignorance and complacency.

It's not our responsibility to keep people from other countries being hunted down like cattle. They have to fight for themselves if they want a taste of freedom, or at the very least reform to a better state of government, that's just how it is. The very fight for it is an important part of a coming culture. Most industrialised nations who have fought for it knows the importance of the struggle.

It might not solve other countries conflicts by just watching it on the side-lines, but acting like a superhero just makes it worse, and it draws you into a conflict which you had nothing to do with in the first place. It's idiocy to even try.

Out to fix the world, are we kids?

Nope. I live the way I preach. I stay out of conflicts that doesn't concern me. I just present advice, because I feel like it and because im so shamefully intelligent. But that's it.

Oh, Escapist, how you amuse me so. It's too bad you'd be nothing without a pommy spouting cliched analogies and saying naughty things about video games.

And you're obviously nothing short of an ignorant ****. Great that we have all that straightened out. : )

 

[Sparrow]

Oh, crap... everyone is calling the OP a troll but, I agree with alot of his points.

[small]Really not sure what that makes me...[/small]

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

So you attest to having a brain? You sure don't use it to think for yourself, do ya fuckwit?

All things are relative you know. Considering I just crushed your pathetic excuse of an argument just a while ago, and you tell me that I don't even use my brain. That says more about you than it does about me. : )

 

[SomethingUnrelated]

I spy a flame war approaaching!

I have to say that some of the poepl over there I really don't like. They can be arrogant, rude, aggresive. Change them.

 

[JimmerDunda]

Haha I hope housebroken lunatic never runs for a country leader position. He would have all the other countries wake all over his for the sake of "peace".

 

[GHMonkey]

ya know, as a proud yank. i gotta say, the relative minor points the OP pointed out are pretty valid. yet, it seems like the hard core sammies and euros want to make this a big deal. your on a video game forum. it dosnt fuckin matter. chill out.

 

[GHMonkey]

I spy a flame war approaaching!

I have to say that some of the poepl over there I really don't like. They can be arrogant, rude, aggresive. Change them.

when and where where you over here?

 

[Akas]

Although logistically impossible, I'd say force every single person (probably at age 18 or something) to travel overseas for a set period of time (3-6 months, or a year, etc.) Make them get an understanding of the world in strange environments, even perhaps humble them (although it's less likely to happen in certain countries). In addition, the world can gain access to, sadly, one of our main assets: hot, dumb, American teenagers.

 

[JimmerDunda]

Although logistically impossible, I'd say force every single person (probably at age 18 or something) to travel overseas for a set period of time (3-6 months, or a year, etc.) Make them get an understanding of the world in strange environments, even perhaps humble them (although it's less likely to happen in certain countries). In addition, the world can gain access to, sadly, one of our main assets: hot, dumb, American teenagers.

Really because I would suggest that for every European teenager as well. Maybe their sheltered asses would realize that the world can't be the super happy place we all think.

 

[Zemalac]

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Dude. Don't feed the troll. He joined the Escapist as of today, and has only posted in this thread--he's not trying to make valid points, he's trying to get a rise out of you. And he succeeded, apparently. He got permabanned before it could go any further, but...be more careful in the future, eh? Check to see if your opponent is actually arguing or if he's making fun of you.

Anyway...I realize this might be a little late, but I was reading through everything on the previous page and I came across this:

Get rid of their nukes so that they can use that money and feed the world.

Sir I wish not to question your intellect but who on earth might you suggest is gonna buy all these nukes?

A more proper strategy would be, stop spending the yearly budget on the military and take all that money and feed and clothe the poor.

You already have the right to bear arms, no country is going to try invading you because it would be impossible to pacify a population where pretty much everyone is packing heat.

Quite simply, America doesn't really need a military force. All that money being spent on stealth bombers, Nimitz class carriers, nukes, firerarms humvees etc. etc. is money wasted...

That's a great idea, except it would only work if the theoretical invading force was composed entirely of poorly-trained and poorly-equipped infantry, seeing as civilian-issue firearms don't really stand a change against anyone with an armored vehicle or assault weaponry. And nobody with that sort of army has the resources necessary to get that army to US soil. So they plan for wars with people who have capabilities that they would need things like aircraft carriers, bombers, et cetera to counter. They needed to do that in the Cold War, and ever since that ended they've just kept right on planning for battles with superpowers. Which is probably a smart move, considering how international politics works. It's not about protecting the US from invasion--it's about making sure no one even thinks about invasion. Judging by your argument, the strategy is working.

As for the idea of getting rid of all the nukes...a noble plan, if unrealistic. Because for the USA to be willing to get rid of their nukes, everyone else would have to do the same. And then there'd always be the question in the back of everyone's minds--"Did they really get rid of all of their bombs?" And, of course, they wouldn't have, because international politics is where ideals go to die.

 

[Akas]

Although logistically impossible, I'd say force every single person (probably at age 18 or something) to travel overseas for a set period of time (3-6 months, or a year, etc.) Make them get an understanding of the world in strange environments, even perhaps humble them (although it's less likely to happen in certain countries). In addition, the world can gain access to, sadly, one of our main assets: hot, dumb, American teenagers.

Really because I would suggest that for every European teenager as well. Maybe their sheltered asses would realize that the world can't be the super happy place we all think.

This was a thread about America, hence why I said for American teenagers to do that. It's a problem that faces most of the entire world, but whatever. Oh and if you think Europeans are "sheltered", wiki "Paris Syndrome". The Japanese top Europeans 10x over when it comes to being sheltered.

 

[JimmerDunda]

Although logistically impossible, I'd say force every single person (probably at age 18 or something) to travel overseas for a set period of time (3-6 months, or a year, etc.) Make them get an understanding of the world in strange environments, even perhaps humble them (although it's less likely to happen in certain countries). In addition, the world can gain access to, sadly, one of our main assets: hot, dumb, American teenagers.

Really because I would suggest that for every European teenager as well. Maybe their sheltered asses would realize that the world can't be the super happy place we all think.

This was a thread about America, hence why I said for American teenagers to do that. It's a problem that faces most of the entire world, but whatever. Oh and if you think Europeans are "sheltered", wiki "Paris Syndrome". The Japanese top Europeans 10x over when it comes to being sheltered.

All teenagers in every developed country could use a swift kick in the ass.

 

[SomethingUnrelated]

I spy a flame war approaaching!

I have to say that some of the poepl over there I really don't like. They can be arrogant, rude, aggresive. Change them.

when and where where you over here?

Xbox-Live, opinions of people who have been there, and meeting some Americans over here provide the basis of my judgement. Don't get me wrong, some of my best friends are from the states, but some of the people there are true assholes, as is probably true to every country.

 

[GHMonkey]

I spy a flame war approaaching!

I have to say that some of the poepl over there I really don't like. They can be arrogant, rude, aggresive. Change them.

when and where where you over here?

Xbox-Live, opinions of people who have been there, and meeting some Americans over here provide the basis of my judgement. Don't get me wrong, some of my best friends are from the states, but some of the people there are true assholes, as is probably true to every country.

valid point, thanks for clarification.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

That's a great idea, except it would only work if the theoretical invading force was composed entirely of poorly-trained and poorly-equipped infantry, seeing as civilian-issue firearms don't really stand a change against anyone with an armored vehicle or assault weaponry. And nobody with that sort of army has the resources necessary to get that army to US soil. So they plan for wars with people who have capabilities that they would need things like aircraft carriers, bombers, et cetera to counter. They needed to do that in the Cold War, and ever since that ended they've just kept right on planning for battles with superpowers. Which is probably a smart move, considering how international politics works. It's not about protecting the US from invasion--it's about making sure no one even thinks about invasion. Judging by your argument, the strategy is working.

Even if another superpower would have the slightest interest in invading the U.S, the only viable way to do it when half the country is a pretty well armed militia would be to exterminate the entire population with ICBM's and considering that the U.S keeps a pretty extensive defense grid of weaponry capable of shooting down ICBM's it would make the endavour far to costly to even consider it. In fact, it would bankrupt any given superpower trying. And any form of rewards that could be gained from such an endavour wouldn't really make it all worth it. Especially since the European Union is pretty unlikely to just sit by when this potential superpower tries to take out a country that's keeping to it's own borders and just wants to be left alone.

Invading the U.S just wouldn't be worth the effort. Not becuase of the Nimitz class carriers or all of the other offensive capabilities, but simply because of the population being pretty well armed in general, and the defensive missile silos that can keep the country pretty damn safe from ICBM attacks.

So quite frankly, there's no excuse what so ever for the U.S to keep such an extensive military force with blatantly obvious offensive abilities like the current one, nor is there any excuse for the U.S constantly butting in into conflicts that has nothing to do with them.

The U.S government is just acting like the power hungry despot it is, thinking it has some sort of god given right to police the world, and doing a pretty shoddy job of it to boot.

The United States military policy as it is today is just a waste of resource and human lives. But hey, at least the average Joe can feel good about himself watching american bombers obliterate clay buildings which those "brown, commienazis of terrorist descent" lives in. I guess the sacrifices in resources and human lives is worth that feeling of self satisfaction... Or is it?

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

All teenagers in every developed country could use a swift kick in the ass.

Yeah, because there's no problem that can't be solved by kicking ass: