Housebroken Lunatic said:
You make some good points--mostly about the US not really needing offensive capabilities, though I would argue that they
are needed, if only very slightly, as a deterrent--I dislike seeing them actually
used, and I'm not sure if the benefits outweigh the costs associated with maintaining such a military machine, but that's an argument for another day. My biggest problem with your argument is that you keep on making white-or-black, there-are-only-two-options-here statements. For example:
Housebroken Lunatic said:
So quite frankly, there's no excuse what so ever for the U.S to keep such an extensive military force with blatantly obvious offensive abilities like the current one, nor is there any excuse for the U.S constantly butting in into conflicts that has nothing to do with them.
No excuse whatsoever? Really? I can come up with three off the top of my head, and that's without doing any research. They might not be good reasons, but they're still
reasons. Please, if you're getting into a debate, don't make blanket statements like that.
Reason 1: As a weapon to wage war against other superpowers, should the need arise. This is left over from the Cold War, and bears little relevance to the modern geopolitical situation, but it's what the machine was designed to do and it does it well.
Reason 2: As a deterrent to prevent other nations from going to war. If you attack the allies of the US, the US will attack you. Politics at its finest.
Reason 3: As a tool for intervention in international politics. This is the "War is an extension of diplomacy by other means" theory, and I don't particularly like it, but it's there.
Now, for the rest of your statements:
Housebroken Lunatic said:
Even if another superpower would have the slightest interest in invading the U.S, the only viable way to do it when half the country is a pretty well armed militia would be to exterminate the entire population with ICBM's and considering that the U.S keeps a pretty extensive defense grid of weaponry capable of shooting down ICBM's it would make the endavour far to costly to even consider it. In fact, it would bankrupt any given superpower trying. And any form of rewards that could be gained from such an endavour wouldn't really make it all worth it. Especially since the European Union is pretty unlikely to just sit by when this potential superpower tries to take out a country that's keeping to it's own borders and just wants to be left alone.
Okay, first of all, where did you get this idea that the American population could in any way constitute a "heavily armed militia?" Maybe Texas could muster something, I dunno, but that seems like a huge assumption to me. According to the National Opinion Research Center, as of 2006, 21.6% of Americans own guns, and most of those are handguns--not exactly the most useful tool for guerrilla combat.
Second, about the "extensive defense grid of weaponry capable of shooting down ICBM's..." That doesn't actually exist. At all. Reagan proposed the Star Wars initiative, it was mocked by everyone, and it never got off the ground. The entire thing was mainly used to make the Soviets think that the USA was beating them in the arms race. If the US did have a defensive grid like that, the Cold War would not have been nearly as tense as it was.
And third, as Purple Rain pointed out, maintaining nukes costs a lot of money. How, therefore, would getting rid of the things that are costing them money bankrupt anyone? You'd think they'd have more cash lying around afterwards because they don't have to pay anyone to dust the things.
Housebroken Lunatic said:
The U.S government is just acting like the power hungry despot it is, thinking it has some sort of god given right to police the world, and doing a pretty shoddy job of it to boot.
The United States military policy as it is today is just a waste of resource and human lives. But hey, at least the average Joe can feel good about himself watching american bombers obliterate clay buildings which those "brown, commienazis of terrorist descent" lives in. I guess the sacrifices in resources and human lives is worth that feeling of self satisfaction... Or is it?
Okay...this is actually
insulting. Sir, if you can think of no better statement than to call another country a "power hungry despot" and imply that your opponent is a racist ignoramus, then you should not say anything at all. You spent about a page arguing with the troll LOLESCAPIST: please do not descend to his level. I'd like to have an actual debate here.