Okay, so because *your* guild is 13/13H and it isn't fun to *you* progressing any slower, and consequently you warn of having to raid 20 hours per week when it's obvious that this is just *your* preference...danhere said:I personally prefer quicker progression. The guild I played with has been 13/13H for a long, long time. Anything less than that wouldn't be fun to me. And that much time investment for me just isn't practical or even worth it anymore.John Funk said:This couldn't be farther from the truth. I raid two nights a week for two and a half hours at a time. I log in maybe a little before raid and do dailies. We're working on learning Nef and Cho'Gall right now.danhere said:I spent 2 years on it and I'll tell you there's better things to do in life. If you have a family, focus on them. The only remotely interesting thing in WoW is raiding, and that's a huge time sink. With a half-decent guild, I'm talking like 20 hours a week. If you're not raiding, you're just stagnating and doing dailies everyday. And if you're raiding inconsistently, you're not getting anywhere either. It's not worth it to give it a chance to get between you and your family. You need to be able to alt+f4 at any time and not feel like a douchebag for ditching a bunch of people in your group, and WoW is tricky in that it sometimes will make it hard on you.
tl;dr: Family first.
OP: Give it a try. It's a great game, and despite what nostalgia-blinded folks say, it's better now than it's ever been.
Also, I really get the feeling people have never played a game with actual grind if they think WoW is "grind-y."
...you don't see the logical collapse here?
I raid with a very small, tight-knit family-style guild. We make progress at our own rate, and still feel like we're getting through content. We raid 5 hours a week, tops. I'm perfectly fine with that.
Don't pretend like your experience is the benchmark for everyone.