Okay, so people who aren't geeks/gamers think they are. so what? Why does it actually matter? Why is it such an injustice to you if they aren't? You know they aren't, so you can just ignore them.
This is why I hate "Fake Geek/Gamer Girls"
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How many ten sided die do you own?
none
Have you ever completed Luigi's Purple coin challenge?
the fuck
Can you complete the sentence "A man chooses x x x"?
A man chooses a woman obeys?
(i thought this would be near bone humor as this is a fake gamer girl thread i seriously don't believe this)
Can you tell me what stat is commonly tied to ranged dmg?
Depends on the game
Have you ever been a member of a raiding guild?
Yeah i was part of Josef Mengles house raiding guild we had great fun! oh wait you mean games? no
Can you point out who of these 2 world leaders poses the greatest threat to you?
Montezuma
Augustus Caesar
Neither i have a car last i checked i can run them over (well i used to have a car)
Can you mention 3 different characters from Street Fighter?
Ryu,Ken,Dan,Zangeif,Bison,Chunli,Blanka,Ibuki,Cody,Sakura,T.Hawk,Gouken,Gin,Guile,Sagat,Balrog,Oni,Evil Ryu,Guy,Dahlsim,El Fuerte,Abel,Yun okay that's enough
Please list videogames you own:
i havn't got a week
Please list videogames you have finished (continual progression games excluded):
Define finished
none
Have you ever completed Luigi's Purple coin challenge?
the fuck
Can you complete the sentence "A man chooses x x x"?
A man chooses a woman obeys?
(i thought this would be near bone humor as this is a fake gamer girl thread i seriously don't believe this)
Can you tell me what stat is commonly tied to ranged dmg?
Depends on the game
Have you ever been a member of a raiding guild?
Yeah i was part of Josef Mengles house raiding guild we had great fun! oh wait you mean games? no
Can you point out who of these 2 world leaders poses the greatest threat to you?
Montezuma
Augustus Caesar
Neither i have a car last i checked i can run them over (well i used to have a car)
Can you mention 3 different characters from Street Fighter?
Ryu,Ken,Dan,Zangeif,Bison,Chunli,Blanka,Ibuki,Cody,Sakura,T.Hawk,Gouken,Gin,Guile,Sagat,Balrog,Oni,Evil Ryu,Guy,Dahlsim,El Fuerte,Abel,Yun okay that's enough
Please list videogames you own:
i havn't got a week
Please list videogames you have finished (continual progression games excluded):
Define finished
Now i'm not defending the general attitude of backlash against "fake gamer X/fake geek Y". I don't even like advertising some form of culture around my own hobbies, either games, tabletops or stuff like that. Wanna join ? Fine, if you're interested enough, etc etc..
Although I do get some form of what people are getting to when they say they're against some of the newcomer to geekdom. In my observations, it's mostly due to the fact that, after spending so much time growing up into some kind of alternative way of thinking and enjoying themselves in ways that other people would find weird, antisocial, silly or "gay", we then see these same people (girls or guys) who used to shun these kind of people suddenly "turn their jacket around", and suddenly, it's cool to play video games, it's cool to like odd things or having an obsession about some sci-fi series or fantasy heroes, even though they haven't been through the whole painful growing up process like the other "original geeks".
Now, in a way I do admit that this is eventually good because people came to accept these things not as "weird pasttimes" but genuine enjoyment from it, even if they only scratch the surface.
But I can understand some sense of bitterness that would come from that, also maybe wanting to slightly "get back at" these people, especially if you were bullied for a long time at school or just pushed away socially.
After that, if I see people who just act like they know geek stuff just to fit in, well eh...at least they're trying. I'm not gonna judge an entire gender out of this though.
captia: blah blah blah...well, screw you captcha :I
Although I do get some form of what people are getting to when they say they're against some of the newcomer to geekdom. In my observations, it's mostly due to the fact that, after spending so much time growing up into some kind of alternative way of thinking and enjoying themselves in ways that other people would find weird, antisocial, silly or "gay", we then see these same people (girls or guys) who used to shun these kind of people suddenly "turn their jacket around", and suddenly, it's cool to play video games, it's cool to like odd things or having an obsession about some sci-fi series or fantasy heroes, even though they haven't been through the whole painful growing up process like the other "original geeks".
Now, in a way I do admit that this is eventually good because people came to accept these things not as "weird pasttimes" but genuine enjoyment from it, even if they only scratch the surface.
But I can understand some sense of bitterness that would come from that, also maybe wanting to slightly "get back at" these people, especially if you were bullied for a long time at school or just pushed away socially.
After that, if I see people who just act like they know geek stuff just to fit in, well eh...at least they're trying. I'm not gonna judge an entire gender out of this though.
captia: blah blah blah...well, screw you captcha :I
Can I join you two in complete agreement?Phasmal said:
I really could not be arsed to watch the video. I don't have sufficient time to waste on that. If the OP would be so kind as to say in his own words what his problem is I will be happy to pay some modicum of attention.
He needs to address these points before I can be arsed to respond though.
1)How is this specifically a problem caused by certain women. Are there not "fake geek men?" Whatever the hell this crap even is.
2)If point one can be explained (Highly doubtful) how is his gaming life negatively impacted.
3)Why is your specific hatred of this phenomena so gosh darn important that the entire world and gaming industry needs to respond you instead of doing what they are in business to do, which is make money?
Your serve OP.
Haha, yeah. Even though it's an actual name, that's where she discovered it and liked it a lot. Also, she talked me into reading that book as a teenager, a few really good episodes of the original Star Trek she liked as a kid, and we watched the entire series of the X-Files together!Owyn_Merrilin said:
Honestly I never knew this was a thing until I started going on the Internet. When I was growing up all my friends were into games so I assumed they were "cool." *shrug*
What a preachy pretentious ass hole. "You can't play with my toys until I decide you're cool enough" is all I heard. Also, he should spend less time worrying about people starting to like his exclusive club and more time learning how to speak. Annunciation is not a hard thing to do.
By the way, people who label popular things as being automatically overrated are just douchebag attention seekers.
By the way, people who label popular things as being automatically overrated are just douchebag attention seekers.
I can't believe how angry that video made me (Part at 1:14 specifically)...
Okay, a couple of questions:
Isn't being accepted in the society what nerds and geeks should be aiming for? Does it really matter if others don't understand what it really feels like as long as we're accepted? How are we going to make them understand? Does it matter if a culture is being sold out?
I also dislike how some nerds go from "Oh woe is me!" to "Fuck you, I'm smarter then you!" as if that helps. Hell, even the guy in the video tries to make us feel about how awful being a nerd is, only to blatantly say that nerds are smarter then average people (Which is a lie if you didn't already know).
If you are honestly furious about this "Selling out the culture." and "Stupid people thinking they know something about the culture but really don't." you are simply a bad person. So what, if you have gotten injustice towards yourself for stupid reasons? It doesn't give you the right to deny other people (which have not suffered) from labeling themselves the same as you, or demanding that they do suffer from it.
Yes, attention seekers are annoying, but they appear on every single culture. And the only way to fight them is to ignore them, not yell at them and their existence.
Just stop with this elitism and let others join in the fun.
Okay, a couple of questions:
Isn't being accepted in the society what nerds and geeks should be aiming for? Does it really matter if others don't understand what it really feels like as long as we're accepted? How are we going to make them understand? Does it matter if a culture is being sold out?
I also dislike how some nerds go from "Oh woe is me!" to "Fuck you, I'm smarter then you!" as if that helps. Hell, even the guy in the video tries to make us feel about how awful being a nerd is, only to blatantly say that nerds are smarter then average people (Which is a lie if you didn't already know).
If you are honestly furious about this "Selling out the culture." and "Stupid people thinking they know something about the culture but really don't." you are simply a bad person. So what, if you have gotten injustice towards yourself for stupid reasons? It doesn't give you the right to deny other people (which have not suffered) from labeling themselves the same as you, or demanding that they do suffer from it.
Yes, attention seekers are annoying, but they appear on every single culture. And the only way to fight them is to ignore them, not yell at them and their existence.
Just stop with this elitism and let others join in the fun.
More likely cause your handsome.FitScotGaymer said:
Hell Im a biker so I dont fit the stereotype of someone who plays.
You want to know the irony... (Is it irony?)... of this guy's video?ThisGuyLikesNoTacos said:
He being just as much of an attention seeker as the "fake geeks" he's whining about.
He is also being a bully. Hell, I even flagged the video as "hateful/bullying."
I've never been angered by something I enjoy, which happened to be obscure when I started liking it, becoming more popular. (Be it video games, anime, or whatever.) In fact, I'm happy if that happens because it means more people will enjoy what I've been enjoying. (Also, the whole "not being made fun of for it anymore" thing is a nice bonus.)
I believe in spreading the joy, not hording it for myself.
It's bad enough that you're posting someone else's thoughts. These aren't even particularly good thoughts, though.Toilet said:
It's particularly easy to gain the label of nerd or geek, and you know what? I'm kind of glad to see its meaning slowly being taken away, because it was a stupid segregation in the first place. I don't get people who are possessive of this term and treat it like an insult other people use it.
And you know what? I've been a nerd and a geek all my life, by the definition of others. I wear thick glasses because my eyesight is shit, but the frames are thin. I was a band geek who played the trombone. To paraphrase Rob Paravonian, carrying a trombone is like being a wounded gazelle. I read a lot when everyone else was watching TV. I played D&D and Magic, I watched anime, I got shit for almost everything I did.
I'm not saying nobody should feel different from me, but while I empathise with people who have had similar experience, I still don't understand it.
Granted, I've coped. I've made friends who love my eccentricities. Or tolerate them. I get away with being weird now because I'm a guitarist and write music and all that stuff. Turns out, there's a real social niche for people like me.
And OH MY GOD, did that guy compare geek culture to Natives? The pair on this dude!
Except for the professional part.
Speaking of my music nerd cred, Punk was a term coined in the late sixties (or early seventies at the latest) for bands like the Velvet Underground. So-called "78 punk" was a so-opting of an existing term, in no small part for the purpose of commercial marketing. The Sex Pistols were as marketed and prefab as any Boy Band you might complain about in the 90s.
Also, early rap wasn't usually about disenfranchisement or the sort. Again, the guy behind the video doesn't really have an in-depth understanding. WHILE complaining that people don't have an in-depth understanding of the content of nerd culture.
My question then, is so what? People only care when their version of something is co-opted. Are you shedding tears for Lou Reed or Willie Alexander? Or are you just concerned that a marketable movement was made even more marketable with time? Sounds like the latter, especially given the punk example.
Mostly self-diagnosed.Rawne1980 said:
I just point that out because the "Autistic" population on the Escapist is roughly equivalent to that of the entire US. I'm not mocking people with ASDs, and I know how problematic they can be, but it seems like the number we have on here would still be statistically high if you took the population of the entire world into account.
GET OFF MY LAWN!
...Sorry, while I agree with you, I just had to say it.
Hipsters don't do treehouses. They're not underground.Phasmal said:
I'M NOT YOUR BRO, BRO!
...Sorry. Habit since Children of Steam.
But more to the point:
I've always enjoyed sharing my hobbies with people. Which, yes, probably means I'm the wrong type of person for the BS in that Youtube video, but like, I find more pleasure in sharing with people than in hoarding it. Maybe they just need a visit from Cindy-Lou Who or the Ghost of Christmas Present or something. I can't imagine going "people sharing interest in what I do? THE HORROR!"
I'm more like "awesome!"
But yeah. Imagine if this standard of entry was applied to guys. Almost nobody would be a nerd.
Which brings me to a final issue with the original post. He's talking "fake geek/gamer girls." The Youtube video, while still garbage, at least does not break it down like that. So we have an even narrower issue here: it is led into something gender-specific.
And how horrible is it that the guys from the Big Bang Theory have girlfriends?
Could these be the end times?
I just saw this and had to take part.
I also own two D30s and a couple of Death Star shaped D100s. Do I get bonus points?
I have a bucket of D10s from my White Wolf days. Well, a Tupperware container, but close enough, right?Draech said:
I also own two D30s and a couple of Death Star shaped D100s. Do I get bonus points?
No and no.
Dexterity.
No.
Caesar, because I drink Mountain Dew.
The original (Ryu, Ken, Mike, Eagle, Sagat), the arguably most popular one (Blanka, Vega, Chun Li, Dhalsim) or the Franchise in general (Rose, Fei Long, Akuma, etc)?
Everything? That's like 30 years of games.
I beat Dick Tracy (NES). Shouldn't that be enough?
. . .yeah. So pretty much I'm afraid of outing my own gender when I don't put enough time into a game to be proficient at it. The ones I do get good at? There's always that one person (because yeah, I do like to socialize and I'm not going to be that one person refusing to speak when people want to go to vent/mumble/ts/skype -- otherwise I tend to come across as male online and in games I don't dissuade the notion) who starts making comments about 'oh this, it's because you're a girl' 'oh you're this role? girls don't do good in that one!' Let's not get started with being slammed, or more cringeworthy, being treated with kid gloves when I *don't* do well.
Yeah. Thanks. Because shit like this doesn't just affect "fake" gamer girls. It affects those of us who are just people enjoying games and trying to have a good time enjoying them.
Can we just stop caring and move on with different people having different hobbies? Please?
Yeah. Thanks. Because shit like this doesn't just affect "fake" gamer girls. It affects those of us who are just people enjoying games and trying to have a good time enjoying them.
Can we just stop caring and move on with different people having different hobbies? Please?
Isn't it weird the things we have to be taught?Chemical Alia said:
My brother used to play with dolls. I still think the only reason he stopped is because he was basically bullied for it.
And I tried to stick up for him, but that just got the crap kicked out of me.
Related, but not exactly, I grew up across the street from two Asian families (one Chinese, the other Thai). I didn't know they were supposed to be bad drivers or good with math. I knew a black guy who lived around the corner, and didn't know he was supposed to be a dumb criminal. My parents' closest friends were a Jewish couple, and I hung out with their son a lot when I was youg. I had no reason to believe they were cheap or stole children in the night.
Basically, if I wasn't taught about racism, I might have gone my entire life without thinking about these things.
I think this is a similar story to most people's experiences with gender norms. If you're not told girls don't/can't play games, you might not know what is considered "fact" by so many.
I remember when being a gamer was a bad thing... wait, that was today. People still fear and vilify video games. Creating arbitrary internal strife is such a waste of time and makes things worse.
Wondering if those were serious, though. A lot of people do that exact same thing tongue-in-cheek.Eri said: