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grimgor42

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I think hatred/dislike towards homosexuals is somewhat of a inborn disposition. Human nature would have to change on a fundamental, almost chemical, level before full acceptance of the gay community is achieved. I myself have feelings of dislike towards homosexuals for almost no reason and against logic. I shed no tears for the hardships they face and generally wish they would go the hell away. In other words, if you're born gay, tough. People aren't going to like you, and people of a similar mindset to you are going to be in an eternal minority.
 
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What's that? Lost yer faith in humanity? Don't wanna live on this planet anymore? Fearing the seemingly inevitable decline of human civilization?

Well, I can't help you with that. But Charlie Chaplin probably can.


Now that that's over with, there's not much to say really. It's an atrocious, pointless waste of life, and it could have been avoided with common sense and basic human kindness. That's all I'm going to say on the matter. Anything else I might say would just be adding to big pointless mob. Being pissed isn't going to help anyone here.

In fact, I've seen a few people above advising the people responsible to go "eat a dick", which is a particularly bad choice of words when you consider the context here.
 

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God dammit. It's so pathetic how primitive this world is forcing itself to stay.

Yet it's also almost entirely hopeless. These people are convinced that they are morally right to treat gays and other "un-desirables" this way. They think it's actually a good thing.

And that is where fighting this fucking Neandrathal behavior (and even that's insulting to Neandrathals) is where it becomes impossible.
Berithil said:
You know, I'm a conservative Christian, and while I disagree with the homosexual life style, I don't hate gays,
I don't mean this to come off as attacking to your religion, but seriously. Why? Why do you have to disagree with it. What about the act of Homosexuality is just so revolting to some of you guys?
 

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Terminate421 said:
Chanel Tompkins said:
Good god. I'm Christian, and I still want to tell those people to go eat a dick.
You and I have every right to tell other Christians who soil the very good name we are that they can go eat a dick. Or even call them inhuman fuck douches. I'm catholic and I think people in my religion who do this are assho- No. BEYOND Assholes.
As a Christan, I almost want to go there... With a AK47 and say: "You guys gave up your rights as Human beings" and then mow them down. :p Normally I am a one who hates fighting (outside Video Games granted) but this is just fucking sick.

I am being a bit overly rash here, but my point stands as I hope I got across...

These people gave up their human rights, they wish to hurt other human beings for being different then themselves.
 
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grimgor42 said:
I think hatred/dislike towards homosexuals is somewhat of a inborn disposition. Human nature would have to change on a fundamental, almost chemical, level before full acceptance of the gay community is achieved. I myself have feelings of dislike towards homosexuals for almost no reason and against logic. I shed no tears for the hardships they face and generally wish they would go the hell away. In other words, if you're born gay, tough. People aren't going to like you, and people of a similar mindset to you are going to be in an eternal minority.
If you hate a group of people for no discernible reason, then you are demonstrating ignorance, plain and simple.

Ignorance is not an in-born disposition.
 

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grimgor42 said:
I think hatred/dislike towards homosexuals is somewhat of a inborn disposition. Human nature would have to change on a fundamental, almost chemical, level before full acceptance of the gay community is achieved. I myself have feelings of dislike towards homosexuals for almost no reason and against logic. I shed no tears for the hardships they face and generally wish they would go the hell away. In other words, if you're born gay, tough. People aren't going to like you, and people of a similar mindset to you are going to be in an eternal minority.
but thats the thing

THEY CANT go the hell away (Hitler tried to make one group of people go the hell away)...and with that attitude thats the very reason thease kids killed themselfs

who gives a flying fuck what people do in the bedroom? I sure as hell dont
 
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Korten12 said:
Terminate421 said:
Chanel Tompkins said:
Good god. I'm Christian, and I still want to tell those people to go eat a dick.
You and I have every right to tell other Christians who soil the very good name we are that they can go eat a dick. Or even call them inhuman fuck douches. I'm catholic and I think people in my religion who do this are assho- No. BEYOND Assholes.
As a Christan, I almost want to go there... With a AK47 and say: "You guys gave up your rights as Human beings" and then mow them down. :p Normally I am a one who hates fighting (outside Video Games granted) but this is just fucking sick.
Oh, for fucks sake.



I mean, are you guys doing this on purpose? "Those homophobic, needlessly violent dick-eaters! WE SHOULD KILL THEM ALL WITH MACHINE GUNS." Do you even see what's wrong with that??
 

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grimgor42 said:
I think hatred/dislike towards homosexuals is somewhat of a inborn disposition. Human nature would have to change on a fundamental, almost chemical, level before full acceptance of the gay community is achieved. I myself have feelings of dislike towards homosexuals for almost no reason and against logic. I shed no tears for the hardships they face and generally wish they would go the hell away. In other words, if you're born gay, tough. People aren't going to like you, and people of a similar mindset to you are going to be in an eternal minority.
It's not a question of "Like" or sympathies. Surely you have your views, but you're not going out of your way to make another person feel bad about it. And that's the problem in these cases, theres a fine line in holding a view point or a perfectly valid feeling and well... in laymans terms, just being a dick.

Thats part of the reason, though I'm for social changes like gay marriage, I have a hard time supporting the Rainbow Armada because it appears they demand to want acceptance out of everyone. and that's wrong too. Everyone has the right to be tolerated, no one has the right to be accepted.
 

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This is just wrong!!!
How the hell can these people live with themselves? I belong to the curch (it's common in Finland even if you don't "believe") and I would have the life of those religious twats taken anyday before some young kids who they think are some sort of abominations.
Open your eyes a little bit and take a look what the world looks like outside your little incest curch!
 

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"packs of young humans should be avoided, for they are vile creatures" says the frog man i just made up. Yea its times like this when i think illogical rules based on faith should be outlawed in schools.
 

Korten12

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
Korten12 said:
Terminate421 said:
Chanel Tompkins said:
Good god. I'm Christian, and I still want to tell those people to go eat a dick.
You and I have every right to tell other Christians who soil the very good name we are that they can go eat a dick. Or even call them inhuman fuck douches. I'm catholic and I think people in my religion who do this are assho- No. BEYOND Assholes.
As a Christan, I almost want to go there... With a AK47 and say: "You guys gave up your rights as Human beings" and then mow them down. :p Normally I am a one who hates fighting (outside Video Games granted) but this is just fucking sick.
Oh, for fucks sake.



I mean, are you guys doing this on purpose? "Those homophobic, needlessly violent dick-eaters! WE SHOULD KILL THEM ALL WITH MACHINE GUNS." Do you even see what's wrong with that??
See... People should be able to see the errors of their ways, in such, their ways of veing homosexuals... but seriosuly.. A TOWNS WAR ON GAY TEENS? Seriously? How can you even consider such people human. They ignore that homosexuals are meat and bone such as they're, they seem to forget that they're human aswell.

They give up their human rights in the name of bigot ideas. I would never kill someone, it was a bit rash what I said above but these people need to be punished. There is freedom of speech and then there is hate speech. This is not only hate speech but it's people going after other people. Plus do you want these people breeding more children and telling them these horrible ways of thinking so when they grow up they're similar to their parents?

Do we want a world where in the next 100 years, people are still fighting over sex, sexual perferences, race, and different religions? No, with people like these, no one will ever be able to sit down and able to accept others beliefs. In stead you got people like these... Who don't seem to even grasp that concept. If fear is the only way to push it upon them then so be it! At least their won't be children in middle schools committing sucide because of children hating on them for being different.

What would you do? Tell them to just stop and hope they do? Throw them in prision where the only thing that will happen will be making them angry? How would you handle this situation?
 

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krazykidd said:
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good god
I am stunned that a place that intolerant still exists
this isn't the 1920's people stop being so intolerant

I wish I could go down there and throttle that principal
Wait what, people have the right to like or not like whatever they choose . In principle . If you don't like cake , i can't force you to like cake, it's your right to not like cake . Same principle applies here , if someone doesn't like homosexuals , you can't force the person to like them , that is their right ( keep reading don't quote just that). Now here , we have discrimination , discrimination is bad , no ome should ever be discriminated against no matter what the situation is , not liking a person for whatever reason is a mans right but to dkscriminate is taking things way too far .
You can't force them to like it, but you should make them follow the law or let people who aren't like yourself have THEIR basic human rights. Not letting people have their rights is a breach of the law. Your point is flawed from its foundation.
 
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Korten12 said:
*massive snip*
Don't just tell them to respect gays, teach them exactly WHY they should respect gays. Try to educate them. And failing that, yeah, just throw 'em in prison. But you can't just deal with an undesirable part of humanity by killing them all. How is that any more constructive then what they would do to the gays? Maybe I'm just being idealistic here, but there's gotta be some kind of middle ground between total acceptance and murder. The healthy human mind is a reasonable thing. It all comes down to education.
 

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Berithil said:
Woo hoo, way to go fellow Christians! Way to love your neighbour..... Oh wait.....
You know, I'm a conservative Christian, and while I disagree with the homosexual life style, I don't hate gays, (unless they have done something to outright wrong me). I would never advocate anything like this. This really makes me sad. Just remember not all Christians are like this. Driving someone to kill themselves through bullying is never right. NEVER.

And as for that measure being passed, what the heck? What happened to freedom of speech? Even a school shouldn't do something like this. Shameful.
i am not being a liberal nazi here but WHY WOULD YOU DISAGREE WITH A LIFESTYLE SOMEONE HAS NO CONTROL OVER?. look opinions are awesome and everything, but when there is no logic to your opinion how can you seriously support it? you may as well disagree with a black lifestyle or a dyslexic lifestyle. so could you please elaborate in what you mean by "disagree"
 

launchpadmcqwak

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launchpadmcqwak said:
Berithil said:
Woo hoo, way to go fellow Christians! Way to love your neighbour..... Oh wait.....
You know, I'm a conservative Christian, and while I disagree with the homosexual life style, I don't hate gays, (unless they have done something to outright wrong me). I would never advocate anything like this. This really makes me sad. Just remember not all Christians are like this. Driving someone to kill themselves through bullying is never right. NEVER.

And as for that measure being passed, what the heck? What happened to freedom of speech? Even a school shouldn't do something like this. Shameful.
i am not being a liberal nazi here but WHY WOULD YOU DISAGREE WITH A LIFESTYLE SOMEONE HAS NO CONTROL OVER?. look opinions are awesome and everything, but when there is no logic to your opinion how can you seriously support it? you may as well disagree with a black lifestyle or a dyslexic lifestyle. so could you please elaborate in what you mean by "disagree"
you can report me or whatever if you want, i know the above post had nothing to do with the thread
 

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krazykidd said:
chickenhound said:
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good god
I am stunned that a place that intolerant still exists
this isn't the 1920's people stop being so intolerant

I wish I could go down there and throttle that principal
Wait what, people have the right to like or not like whatever they choose . In principle . If you don't like cake , i can't force you to like cake, it's your right to not like cake . Same principle applies here , if someone doesn't like homosexuals , you can't force the person to like them , that is their right ( keep reading don't quote just that). Now here , we have discrimination , discrimination is bad , no ome should ever be discriminated against no matter what the situation is , not liking a person for whatever reason is a mans right but to dkscriminate is taking things way too far .
LOL WUT? there's a difference in believing what you want to believe and persecuting others because they don't think like you. Did you even read the article???
 

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The fool adults that let things get this far aren't the only problem here. More attention needs to be brought to teaching kids that bullying isn't acceptable. The self-esteem issues extend in that direction as well; people who feel good about themselves don't treat others this way. We spend so much time reacting to the symptoms of a troubled person that barely any effort is made to fix the damn problem itself. More children need to be informed that making others feel horrible about themselves is not a habit to grow up perfecting; the people who behave this way should be the ones corrected by their peers and the adults around them, period, and if they can't figure that out on their own (because really, what do parents do to make it obvious to them?). They need to be told, plainly and simply, by parents and teachers alike, what they're doing when they treat other people like this, and they need to be punished when they misstep.

Whatever other mistakes the school district made, they didn't force these kids to treat each other like this. We foster this sort of environment when we don't teach our kids some damned empathy. Lack of gay sympathy or awareness isn't ultimately what caused the suicides; fear, humiliation, torment, and pain did. Sexual orientation was merely the vehicle in this particular case.