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Still Life

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Eico said:
What part of beauty is in the eye of the beholder do you not understand?
What part of validating an opinion do you not understand?

Because I find it laden with the same willful ignorance that perpetuates all discrimination.

Again: You have utterly failed to back up your claim. Therefore: opinion is invalid.
 

Still Life

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Eico said:
Just like I don't care what you think is beautiful.
This is a tangent.

This is irrelevant.

You have logic holes in your argument that I can drive a truck through.

If you're going to make claims like the aforementioned then you need to provide Academic evidence. I will not simply accept your inadequate opinion as fact until you prove it, as I have gay friends who will find your opinion deeply offensive and I have college friends who do studies in said sciences who disagree.

It's called accountability: something you lack.
 

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Eico said:
[T]he purpose of all life is to breed.
This is a philosophical question. Functionalism is a theory, and does not adequately explain the 'purpose' of life for me and many others.

I can accept your opinion with that last elucidation, however you need to articulate yourself a helluva lot better.
 

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chinangel said:
I direct this question at my fellow female gamers out there. While at work I was playing my PSP, now I struggle already with social situations but I like to think I try. Anyways, one of my co-workers commented that girls really don't play games much (she was also female if it matters) which made me really embarrassed and actually ashamed of my title as a girl gamer. I also spoke briefly with a few of the boys there about other games, mostly shooters.

Now...my question to you is, why is it okay for guys to be into games, but when we get into them, or publicly show our love/interest/what have you of video games, other girls avoid us like we are carrying some kind of contagious disease? Is there any good reason why we should be ashamed or hide the fact we play games?
If I were going to theorize about the power structure of society and add a decidedly feminist bent to my argument, I'd tell you it's because we men still want something to feel as a sanctuary, if you will, from the presence of females (partly because we're told the myth that woman caused the fall of man... this being even though the only place man ever really felt safe was in the womb) or something like that.

I think, regardless of the motivation, the idea that a woman is into gaming is looked at as strange because the place for women hasn't been in front of a TV. Culture is moving through a transition period for the time being. But hey, follow the advice of a poet... simply that you follow what your heart sings... "This is not a heart, it is a volume knob. That makes your veins wires. If your veins are wires, then your limbs are speakers. If your limbs are speakers, then movements is a song." (From poet Ken Arkind.) So not only follow your heart, but in your movements, create the song you want to hear.
 

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Eico said:
I said that in the very beginning, you simply inferred insult from my use of the word defect, and overlooked my subjectivity.
Lets have a look.

Eico said:
Children, with no intervention on the part of parents, separate into gender groups before they are five and spend 3/4 of their time with children of the same sex. This separation is interwoven with the above-mention roles. Boys have boy's toys. Girls have girl's toys. A boy playing with a Barbie is seen as 'weird'. A girl playing with a truck (although less weird, as homosexuals (boys + Barby = homosexual to many people) are met with a lot more revolt than masculine women, as homosexuality is a defect in genetics) is 'odd'. Sit a person down with a baby boy and they will give them a truck and play rougher. Sit them down with a girl and they will give them a teddy or a doll and baby them.
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I meant exactly what it says - homosexuality is a defect; an error, a deformation of brain functioning, a flaw.
No, you did not do a good job of explaining yourself. You come across as backpedaling. You need to do better next time instead of expecting someone to extrapolate your 'opinion' from such a muddled post and logic gaps.

Accountability.
 

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chinangel said:
Now...my question to you is, why is it okay for guys to be into games, but when we get into them, or publicly show our love/interest/what have you of video games, other girls avoid us like we are carrying some kind of contagious disease? Is there any good reason why we should be ashamed or hide the fact we play games?
You are different, you do not fit their perfect close minded little world.
It's the same when a guy mentions games to non-gamer people, it's as if you contracted insta-leprosy.

You shouldn't be ashamed of your hobbies... well unless they are cannibalistic in nature.
 

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Video games the dread of girlfriends and wives and all that boys club bullshit. Honestly though I believe that the era of gender roles is gonna end soon. With things like the Internet masking and slowly revealing people. Honestly I don't know how many times have I just been lurking in these forums, and being surprised about who people are and where they're from and who their are. I just hope and this sounds corny as hell, but that soon we all find out were all pretty much the same. Some people you'll like and some you won't but you shouldn't judge off first appearances.
 

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Eico said:
Do I think homosexuality is a defect? Yes.

Why do I think this? Because, for me, the purpose of all life is to breed. Homosexuals (including myself) cannot breed. We can adopt or, perhaps soon, bio-engineer a child (and my girlfriend and I are considering such routes) but we fail the purpose of life. This makes homosexuality, to me, a defect.
Ok I'm getting in late on this and don't have time to read all the comments, but it seems you are missing some pretty important theories proposed by scientists about why homosexuality, bisexuality, and monogamy exist in nature apart from humans. I mean, none of these make immediate sense if the "point of life" is solely to survive long enough to pass on your genetic material as much as possible.

These theories, like all theories about evolution, are pretty hard to prove. But it bears repeating that 1.2 billion of years of evolution after the development of sexual reproduction hasn't been enough to eradicate homosexuality in many species of animals.
 

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Its sort of like if a girl can punch a guy and if a guy tries the same, it becomes abuse right away. Just somethings that aren't acceptable which is a shame really.
 

Still Life

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Eico said:
Still Life said:
Are you going to remember to add that to every 'this tastes nice', 'this is a hot/cold day', or 'she is pretty'? No. We don't because things that are subjective are expected to be opinion.
Opinions need to validated for them to be authoritative: you failed in respective of the issue brought to the fore.

I'm merely holding you accountable for it.


You need to get over this superiority complex you have going.
No. There is no 'superiority complex'.

You simply need to explain yourself better in future.
 

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It could be that for the longest time men and women had their separate roles in society. Gaming was on the side of the men; I think some people are still getting used to the ideas of mixed roles in society today. I get the same type of stuff at school. Don't let it bother you at all. If you like to game, then game, no one can stop ya' from doing what you love.