This scare the shit out of anyone else?
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I actually like it. It's a rare and special instance, in our hypersensitive "enlightened" world, of humanity in all its brutal violent glory. I liken the celebrating Americans with thousands of screaming Roman spectators as other human beings mutilate each other just a matter of yards away, and it makes me smile to think maybe we haven't lost our roots after all.
Same can be said about Egypt. Just think about it for a bit.FamoFunk said:
Done thinking? Yeah its pretty much the same thing a perceived evil man is now gone. And the people of a country are celebrating. I said this in another post but its also the same that happens after a sporting event like the World Cup. The countries can usually just breathe a sigh of relief but they usually end up out in the streets partying.
They can't, and they are creating a future problem through this thoughtlessness, like every other conflict they've had to encounter since the war.ShakyFiend said:
Seriously, Pakistan is pissed. Apparently Barack didn't wait for legal clearance before he went all guns blazing in Pakistan, and that's not only illegal, it's also a cuntish thing to do. The thing is, while he (and every single other president) only looks towards the next election, he (and every other president) makes trouble for the future generations, this time being Pakistan. A couple more dick moves, and yeah, in 20 years time Pakistan and other countries will be riled up against the US, and these won't be random men in the desert, these will be powerful countries. US needs to get it's act together, and NOT start the anti-Pakistan media propaganda that's already beginning. You mark my words, and watch this space.
Also, this conversation is coming from a discussion at the Pakistan Embassy in London today. I work in overseas investment and company formation in the UK, and we can expect a whole load of investors with assets currently in America, to reinvest in Europe.
Im glad that the guys gone, I cheered but never went out to flood the streets. But was glad when I found out.
Two thoughts, neither is even remotely politically correct. Because I don't care.
1 - Americans are Americans. We're a melting pot of hundreds of cultures unevenly blended into a variety of subcultures. Because we are one of the world's "superpowers" we reserve the right to be slightly arrogant about it. We take pride in our status as a "superpower" because forging a country from a repressed colony into one of the worlds most powerful sovereign nations in a couple hundred years is something to be proud of. We are not a perfect country. We have some major and minor flaws. So does every other country on the planet. Non-Americans being appalled at Americans celebrating the death of one of our most hated enemies is unnecessary at best, because as Americans we are unlikely to care what you think of us. Americans being appalled at said celebrating is the nature of our culture. Americans will almost always speak out against any and everything they don't believe in no matter whether it's relevant, frivolous, or insane.
2 - If you disagree with America or it's people you have 4 options:
Beat us
Join us
Shut the hell up
Or the last and by far most used option: impotently whine about us on the Internet.
Either way, the only thing likely to take down America in the near future is America. Which isn't all that unlikely really given that the majority of the population is at least marginally insane.
/attention_span
1 - Americans are Americans. We're a melting pot of hundreds of cultures unevenly blended into a variety of subcultures. Because we are one of the world's "superpowers" we reserve the right to be slightly arrogant about it. We take pride in our status as a "superpower" because forging a country from a repressed colony into one of the worlds most powerful sovereign nations in a couple hundred years is something to be proud of. We are not a perfect country. We have some major and minor flaws. So does every other country on the planet. Non-Americans being appalled at Americans celebrating the death of one of our most hated enemies is unnecessary at best, because as Americans we are unlikely to care what you think of us. Americans being appalled at said celebrating is the nature of our culture. Americans will almost always speak out against any and everything they don't believe in no matter whether it's relevant, frivolous, or insane.
2 - If you disagree with America or it's people you have 4 options:
Beat us
Join us
Shut the hell up
Or the last and by far most used option: impotently whine about us on the Internet.
Either way, the only thing likely to take down America in the near future is America. Which isn't all that unlikely really given that the majority of the population is at least marginally insane.
/attention_span
Even the survivors of 9/11 think it's a little barbaric. What annoys me is when people claim to be for peace by adding another body to the pile. Celebrating a death is different than celebrating the fact that you inconvenienced a terrorist force. Be happy the man is gone, not that you killed him.
I wasn't scared by it but I was certainly disturbed. I don't agree that justice has been served because I don't believe in the death penalty and it is possible this could trigger revenge attacks or whatever - it's not all good news.
I was actually quite surprised seeing the Prime Minister saying that it is good that he is dead - most British politicians are very moderate and sensitive about these things.
I was actually quite surprised seeing the Prime Minister saying that it is good that he is dead - most British politicians are very moderate and sensitive about these things.
he is responsible for the death of 3,000 of my country men, he should have been drawn and quartered.
on topic, no, this does not scare or worry me.
on topic, no, this does not scare or worry me.
In America, Bin Laden was less a man and more a symbol and reminder of the greatest attack on our nation. For a decade, he eluded the best military and intelligence force in the world. First he was the man that murdered 3000+ people through his group. Then he was the man that got away, when a country wanted vengence. The US isn't known for failing to respond to an attack or losing to an enemy. He was an insult and a stain on the pride of our people.
After a decade, one of our best mility forces finally got him. Is it wrong to celebrate a man's death? Yes. But for many people, it's more like tearing down a Nazi swastika from a wall. A symbol of fear, death, and hate was removed from the world and our country did it through our own blood and tears. For a lot of people, it means some sense of closure. For some, a sense of pride.
After a decade, one of our best mility forces finally got him. Is it wrong to celebrate a man's death? Yes. But for many people, it's more like tearing down a Nazi swastika from a wall. A symbol of fear, death, and hate was removed from the world and our country did it through our own blood and tears. For a lot of people, it means some sense of closure. For some, a sense of pride.
All I can think is that the celebrating reminds me (in a bad way) of the way some people in the Arab world celebrated after the events of 9/11/01. They did it and it was bad. America (we) do it and it's suddenly okay? It left a bad taste in my mouth on both occasions. Way to go in showing we are better than that, fellow Americans!
Hey, remember that guy with the beard that killed >3,000 of our people (and many more in other countries) to make a political statement, released a series of videos taunting us, sent thousands of his countrymen to kill United States military personnel and even more civilians while he hid out in a posh complex, and eluded capture for almost ten years while continuing to function as a primary figurehead of a gigantic terrorist faction?
Yeah, we shot that cocksucker in the eye and dumped his body in the sea.
Haters. Gonna. Hate.
Yeah, we shot that cocksucker in the eye and dumped his body in the sea.
Haters. Gonna. Hate.
It's one monster as opposed to thousands of innocent people. Think about that. I didn't celebrate his death, either, but you're thinking too broadly.LadyRhian said:
This is what I've been saying since his death was announced.ShakyFiend said:So, Osama, Ok death of a international hate figure aside etc etc if anyone deserved it he did and so on, thats not what worries me. (although isnt it a bit odd how the US can stroll into a country and execute who they like?)
The troubling thing is thisand
and to be honest, this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/editors_note/8844-Editors-Note-Better-Than-Before] as well which is what prompted this thread.
And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.
Anyone else? Or are you all patriotic Americans and whatnot?
[HEADING=1]What the fuck is wrong with people?![/HEADING]
There were, but now it is all over the news and something that everybody can actually hear. It is what was happening with at least 20 microphones put in front of it.Father Time said:And there weren't all ready people trying to do that anyway?LitleWaffle said:
We are just begging for another attack similar to 9/11
But yeah how dare we kill people who attacked us and then celebrate the fact that a mass murdering madman who waged war on us is dealt with.
Too bad it's not going to change anything. And America will continue to up their "terrorist security."
At least he has his 72 virgins in heaven.
At least he has his 72 virgins in heaven.