Titanfall's First DLC Map Pack Launches in May - $10 for 3 Maps

[fix-the-spade]

From what I can tell, people just want free content that the developers work their asses off to make.

Splitting the community won't happen either, just because people buy the DLC doesn't mean they are going to ignore every other play-list and map that came with the game.

It splits the community because those that don't buy the DLC will either be forced to play in walled gardens or (as EA has done before) be prevented from playing entirely until they pay for the extras. In Titanfall there is only online and there is only matchmaking, if EA applies the DLC maps to all the matchmaking playlists then they just condemned anyone without to private matches.

Regards working their arses off, I don't doubt that the map team works hard, but for Titanfall's scale it's probably a small team and the maps are made cheaply. I hate that the major pubs actively block and punish any attempt at community generated content these days. A medium sized mod community would have fifty great maps out for Titanfall by now, plus game modes, for free. If EA had any sense it would work like Steam's does, where maps get automatically downloaded and installed off the server when you need them, then you've got them for next time.

Regards the financial viability of such a move, right now there are more than twenty times the number of people playing Counter Strike: Global Offensive than CoD:Ghosts. It seems to work for Valve pretty well.

 

[fix-the-spade]

For the record, Wii U has sold 6 million units and PS4 has sold 6.9 million units. This is all as of April 5th.
Wonder how Titanfall would have sold on PS4, now. I bet EA wonders the same thing.

All of EA's big PC releases since BF3 are Origin only.

Regards PS4 sales, since Microsoft partially paid for Titanfall's development I don't think EA are massively bothered right now, but I bet they are looking forward to Titanfall 2 and wondering where that could take them.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

That's brilliant! A fantastic way to segment the community into two groups...those with the new maps and those without, and not permitting those without to play with those with. Absolutely great product.

 

[XDSkyFreak]

Well funny thing: considering how the CoD series is pushing itself as realistic military shooter

It does?

I'd say the way people play CoD is accurate.

I didn't know that firing a sniper rifle as you pulled it up to your eye while running and jumping was an accurate and reliable killing method.

I was specificaly refering to the campers beeing the ones actualy playing like real life soldiers. The "snipers" in this game are mostly just kids who figured "OMG this gun kills in one hit no hacks, lets run around like idiots trolling ppl. IRL try to fire a sniper rifle standing up from your shoulder and you will end up with a dislocated shoulder and a scope embeded in your skull (talking bout real high power sniper rifles here). And yeah, sadly CoD and Battlefield and their ilk claim to be realistic shooters ... "claim to be".

 

[Jandau]

Ah, let the milking commence! This shit is why I never got into the mainstream FPS games - you want to play past the first month or two? You better fork over for the map packs! Oh, you don't HAVE to, but if you don't you might as well enjoy a smaller player pool, etc.

Granted, $10 might be a proportionally reasonable price when you consider the amount of content in the base game...

 

[XDSkyFreak]

The shitty map dlc begins. Well, I was hoping it wouldn't go this way and I knew I was delusional in hoping so, but I guess it is going to be this way. Thanks a fuckin lot, EA.

They're giving you the OPTION to pay for extra content which is not required to play the game. This is also a multiplayer game. Explain to me how this could NOT happen but also how it is bad?

It's bad because it splits the community. The already small community.

And then, as you can see from this thread, it pushes people who were on the edge about playing away. It's a bad move on pretty much every front. Aside from the fact that the pricing is fucking absurd.

No, you see, what I was hoping would happen are free map packs. Paid map packs are horrible, free ones are fine.

From what I can tell, people just want free content that the developers work their asses off to make.

Even when Bungie released Halo 3 maps that needed to be paid, the community as a whole held together pretty damned well. If The argument that these were on disk or with-held could be made I can understand people being mad. But the thing is that this is DLC, content to be bought if players ENJOY the game that much. I bought the season pass just last night after a month of playing it because I enjoy Titanfall enough to want more content, by doing this, I have just saved myself a few extra dollars as they pass around the rest of the maps.

This thread is full of blind hate. DLC maps are nothing new, just MORE things added that don't do anything wrong.

Splitting the community won't happen either, just because people buy the DLC doesn't mean they are going to ignore every other play-list and map that came with the game.

Except this isn;t the devs working their asses of to make something for the comunity because they want to offer more content that those that want pay for. This is the publisher milking the franchise before it is even a franchise! Because Titanfall shipped with 15 maps (SERIOUSLY? 15? FUCKING HALF LIFE HAD MORE THAN THAT AND THAT WAS A SINGLE PLAYER FOCUSED GAME!) simply because the publisher said that. Because I am damn sure these 3 maps where ment to be in the game along with the "new guns" from the start, they were just ripped and then sold to us latter.
Oh those poor devs ... a team of hundreds of people who can basicaly make you a map in 15 bloody minutes ... oh the horror of all this extra work for a game they love ... but wait what is that I hear? Are those the screams of millions of people who bought your game and are playing it? Now why ask your devs to work the extra time when you can just idk ... give the people the power to make their own maps? Like how people are still buying Skirim cause the modding comunity still makes great stuff for it. But then again this is EA ... MAKE MONEY, MAKE MORE MONEY, THESE KIDS ARE SO STUPID AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE VALUE FOR PRICE RATIO.
See mate: I probably would not mind maybe paying 1 dolar for a map pack of just 3 maps. 10 dolars? for 3 maps? are you shitting me? After asking full price for a game that is just a sequence of non connected death matches? you ask full price for a game with just multyplayer matches hosted through an unreliable but mandatory service that may or may not ask me for a montlhy fee? Let me tell you something: YOU MADE A BLINKY SHINY VERSION OF COUNTER STRIKE GLOBAL OFFENSIVE (20 euros at launch , 11 now) WITHOUT THE MAP EDITOR AND DEDICATED SERVERS, WITH FEWER MAPS AND YOU GOT AWAY WITH ASKING FULL PRICE FOR THIS AND NOW ASK ME TO PAY YOU FOR EXTRA MAPS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN ANY DECENT ONLINE SHOOTER? GO FUCK YOURSELVES.

 

[Evonisia]

So...

Call of Duty offers (at least from Black Ops and Black Ops II, MW3 was a mess in terms of DLC):
4 Multiplayer Maps
1 Zombies map (which can be counted as singleplayer content)

For $15. $3 per map with additional singleplayer and co-op content as opposed to $3.33 with an additional loosely co-op mode.

Well done EA, you did it again. You tried to replicate CoD's sales, failed, and had to survive on DLC. You're making Activision look generous in comparison.

 

[josemlopes]

Textures, new weapons pack or even map packs can be considered microtransactions, it's just an opinion because microtransactions ARE Dlc... It's downloadable content for the game, no ?
It's the same thing, just a different name... It's just a matter of semantic, nothing more.
Of course it's just my opinion and nothing more.

You very well knew what they were saying back then, dont try to twist their words.

By your logic then if I buy a digital game then its a micro-transaction. Or an expansion pack like the ones in GTA IV or Red Dead Redemption.

 

[Something Amyss]

"claim to be".

Where have any of the COD games claimed to be realistic? It seems to me their whole selling point is Baysploitation.

 

[Something Amyss]

Why were people so hyped about this game again?

Were they really expecting something different?

It looks legitimately fun? Parkour and mechs?

I mean, I didn't expect them to not cash in on DLC or anything. That's become industry standard. I doubt "no DLC" was what got anyone hyped.

 

[Denamic]

Haha, nope!
I was waiting for this. I didn't buy the game at launch because I wanted to see how they handled 'map packs'. I'll just be ignoring this game from here on out.

 

[prpshrt]

I feel sorry for respawn's devs... I'm fairly certain they're gamers as well and it must suck for EA to knuckle down on em and make em churn out shit like this.

 

[XDSkyFreak]

"claim to be".

Where have any of the COD games claimed to be realistic? It seems to me their whole selling point is Baysploitation.

When the genre you are part of is labeled as "realistic modern shooter" by most reviewers and even marketing for the game is all about gun-porn and showing off the newest military hardware in spectacular ways ... well i did say "claim to be". The trouble is all the reviewers label them "realistic modern shooters" when they really aren't ... ARMA is the only realistic moder shooter that springs to mind right now plus the SWAT series. But for some reason marketing and longterm missuse of terminology has resulted in confusion in the mind of the common gamer.

Don't get me wrong mate: I'm on your side here. None of this "modern realistic shooters" have anything to do with reality besides inspiration for their guns. By that token CoD is basicaly just as realistic as Titanfall, just that the tanks are bipedal instead of tracked. Problem here is that both marketing and gaming press have allowed this missconception to get into gaming conciousness. A bit sad when you think about it: this industry labels CoD, Twatellfield and the like as "realistic modern shooters" and then labels the realistic modern shooters like ARMA and SWAT as "simulators"

 

[Strazdas]

Except for Microtransactions, you pay something from the game itself and get to use (usually) it exactly ONCE - or it's a single copy you can use infinitely if it's for example a single gun/scope/grip/camo.
This is plain and simple DLC. A Mini-Addon. You pay once, you get a few items, you get to keep them forever.
The price doesn't matter and you not liking the price doesn't automatically make it Microtransactions. It just makes it overpriced for you (and in this case, probably for most people)

So a horse armor, the famouse DLC, is not something from a game? a new weapon and a skin is not something from a game? a new map is not something from a game? DLCs are very much microtransactions, just in their scale they are usually more macrotransactions since they arent anywhere close to micropayments.

So god only knows how many years ago this one little game called Counter Strike comes out and you get to pick what map you want to play in every game and you get to create your own maps and you can make dedicated servers with your own rules that you and your friends can play on and you can play on LAN to avoid all the lag of connecting to company servers.

and the result was: everyone was playing de_dust.
The reason you dont get to choose maps is usually simple: community hates most maps. does not mean the maps are bad though. just disliked because instant gratification players.

$10 is really not that much. It could pay for what? One-third of a lunch at Panera? I don't own this game (yet), but frankly I'm not seeing the problem. The content will at least add longevity in the long run. And if you're not willing to pay that much, well, you didn't need it in the first place.

Its not much, you can only buy 2 games on steam for that. Oh, wait, what was that, 3 maps? definatelly "Worth it".
Also what is Panera?

They're giving you the OPTION to pay for extra content which is not required to play the game. This is also a multiplayer game. Explain to me how this could NOT happen but also how it is bad?

history teaches us that when new maps come out old maps get deserted. they are not an option. they are "pay us 10 dollars or you can forget about playing with others within a month after maps launch".

Yes, it's Origin exclusive. Which is why a lot of people didn't buy it for PC.

another reason you have so low PC numbers is because the source does not take into account digital sales, but only retail sales, and on PC that is the majority, especially so with multiplayer only games. Same is true for all other games on VGC if you look at PC section.

 

[josemlopes]

Who is twisting whose words, exactly?

That was the point of that part of the post.

And for the rest

The only difference is that an expansion pack (at least in the olden days) was almost assuredly worth its asking price

 

[Something Amyss]

When the genre you are part of is labeled as "realistic modern shooter" by most reviewers

I don't even think that's true, since "Modern Military Shooter" seems to be the most common genre definition, but you realise you've used reviewers' labels as proof that the devs and/or pubs are claiming to be realistic.

and even marketing for the game is all about gun-porn and showing off the newest military hardware in spectacular ways ...

What about "gun porn" makes a claim to a "realistic" shooter?

well i did say "claim to be".

Yes, now give me some actual evidence that they claim to be.

 

[Something Amyss]

I'm not sure even nostalgia goggles can count for that one, but isn't it amazing how things change? I remember the complaints about various expansions in droves, and now the only reason they seem they're a good thing is in the relative light of modern DLC.

 

[tehroc]

Haha, nope!
I was waiting for this. I didn't buy the game at launch because I wanted to see how they handled 'map packs'. I'll just be ignoring this game from here on out.

That's sad, you're actually missing out on a decent game. Titanfall (360 version) is the most fun I've had with a FPS game since Unreal Tournament.