I've always like the polytheistic Greek mythology, just because it's so much more exciting and relatable than the Abrahamic religions in my opinion. The Gods were really just super-sized humans; they got drunk and did stupid s**t, too.
Just out of interest - how would describe someone who (like myself) does not believe an a god or any form of 'perfect omnipotent being' yet still believes in unscientific concepts such as souls, life having a vital spark, spirituality, etc? That is still atheism, but is also religious?GothmogII said:Depends. You can still follow the main beliefs without actually following some of the more..fringe elements. Sorry, I mean rather, you'd discount the supernatural stuff, that's for example basically what Christian Atheism is at least.cuddly_tomato said:Does being an atheist mean that you can't be religious?
Aren't Buddhists atheists?
However, interesting little note is that, most of the big religions all have some from of the same moral code, of 'Golden Rule', from Christianity to Buddhism to Confucianism to Islam, that says basically, do unto others as you would have done unto you, that everyone has a right to be treated justly and fairly etc.
So really, if you're only focusing on the teachings of a religion for it's moral and philosophical aspects, you can still be -technically- atheist.
For those who don't follow any religion in any sense, non-religious really does work better as a descriptor.
What I meant was I found it kind of insulting to say that you need to be a Buddhist to be enlightened, you see?Matronadena said:that's more of a new agey spin on it, most of the legit ones in the east may have different views on what enlightenment means... but nearly all branches the main point is to loose the self.. Only real arrogance I see comes from the westerners who claim to be masters and want you to cough up thousands of dollars on cruises for talks, and book signings , or Buddhist influenced new-agy shops
If being atheist was against the law I'd go out trying to assassinate everyone who agrees with that law.notoriouslynx said:I think ancient greek mythology is an amazing religion if that counts. I spent most of my life learning about it. If being athiest was ever against the law (lol), I'd switch to ancient greek mythology. I know so much about and want to make a video game based on homer's odyssey (which I've read, awesome book). Its so interesting.
I don't consider it a religion if there's no belief in a higher power associated in it. If it does count, than sure I pick it as my favorite. Otherwise pastafatarian.JHaakma said:There is of course LaVeyan Satanism, which is an athiestic religion based around the preservation of self, and treating one's selve AS God. There's a few philisophical fallacies in it, but otherwise it's quite a reasonable position. All you have to do is ignore the hypocricy of showing your non-conformity by assigning yourself to a religion.
GothmogII said:Depends. You can still follow the main beliefs without actually following some of the more..fringe elements. Sorry, I mean rather, you'd discount the supernatural stuff, that's for example basically what Christian Atheism is at least.cuddly_tomato said:Does being an atheist mean that you can't be religious?
Aren't Buddhists atheists?
Yep. Buddhism it is.notoriouslynx said:To be atheist means to not believen a creator or a deity, such as god. Buddhists do not believen any creator therefore buddhists are athiests. Buddhism is a religion that appeals to Atheists because it revolves around philosophy, intellect, and spirituality.
I never really thought about it in terms of favourites. It was just part of my classics studies, but if I have to chose someone it might be Apollon as Phoibos and in his aspects of god of music, poetry, light and truth (and plague). The story about Apollon and Daphne on Ovids Metamorphoses is breathtaking in it's sad beauty.notoriouslynx said:Hooray! Another person that said greek mythology besides me. What are your favorite gods and goddesses? I like Athena and Hermes. Athena is a great role model for women even if she is a god.teh_gunslinger said:Ancient Greek religion. At least the gods were very anthropomorphic and full of flaws. It was all good fun. Also there were a lack of "Kill the unbelievers" dogma that is a staple of the 3 big ones these days. It wasn't so damn serious. Or at least in another way.
And much fun reading about Athena being born from the head of Zeus who ate his father or something like that.
It's not entirely implausible that what we consider a soul is just the combination of various electrical impulses in our brains formed into what we understand as an identity. And this is not to belittle individuality, I still think it's amazing and wonderful thing, even if I don't consider it divinely inspired.cuddly_tomato said:Just out of interest - how would describe someone who (like myself) does not believe an a god or any form of 'perfect omnipotent being' yet still believes in unscientific concepts such as souls, life having a vital spark, spirituality, etc? That is still atheism, but is also religious?GothmogII said:Depends. You can still follow the main beliefs without actually following some of the more..fringe elements. Sorry, I mean rather, you'd discount the supernatural stuff, that's for example basically what Christian Atheism is at least.cuddly_tomato said:Does being an atheist mean that you can't be religious?
Aren't Buddhists atheists?
However, interesting little note is that, most of the big religions all have some from of the same moral code, of 'Golden Rule', from Christianity to Buddhism to Confucianism to Islam, that says basically, do unto others as you would have done unto you, that everyone has a right to be treated justly and fairly etc.
So really, if you're only focusing on the teachings of a religion for it's moral and philosophical aspects, you can still be -technically- atheist.
For those who don't follow any religion in any sense, non-religious really does work better as a descriptor.
Perhaps pantheist or deism? A belief in something behind it all but not "God" as such? Or am I getting it wrong? I ask out of curiosity.cuddly_tomato said:Just out of interest - how would describe someone who (like myself) does not believe an a god or any form of 'perfect omnipotent being' yet still believes in unscientific concepts such as souls, life having a vital spark, spirituality, etc? That is still atheism, but is also religious?GothmogII said:Depends. You can still follow the main beliefs without actually following some of the more..fringe elements. Sorry, I mean rather, you'd discount the supernatural stuff, that's for example basically what Christian Atheism is at least.cuddly_tomato said:Does being an atheist mean that you can't be religious?
Aren't Buddhists atheists?
However, interesting little note is that, most of the big religions all have some from of the same moral code, of 'Golden Rule', from Christianity to Buddhism to Confucianism to Islam, that says basically, do unto others as you would have done unto you, that everyone has a right to be treated justly and fairly etc.
So really, if you're only focusing on the teachings of a religion for it's moral and philosophical aspects, you can still be -technically- atheist.
For those who don't follow any religion in any sense, non-religious really does work better as a descriptor.
Please do not take this as a slight on you. I just remembered you from the Escapist Help/questions thread.Xavier Dirt said:So why Buddhism?