To everyone who thinks TF2 is ruined forever...

[DazZ.]

If you're willing to pay £12 for a situational bonus

+25 health isn't what I'd call situational.

I still stand by the hats really shouldn't give buffs/nerfs unless they're as common as weapons/specifically craftable

The Polycount hats are specifically craftable (though it takes a while). The Scout hat is the only one that I believe is overpowered (in my opinion). The other hats are balanced out, if not by the hat's effects themselves, then by the weapon combinations' drawbacks. For example, a Soldier having resistance to Sentry damage also only has 3 rockets before reloading and no shotgun shells to deal with a sentry, and landing shots on a sentry don't heal him. Even in normal combat, I've tried using the Black Box without a shotgun as a backup weapon, and it is not easy.

Yet again, I'll say it. I don't give a shit how balanced the rare items are, they're rare. It's wrong to give more strategic options to who has been playing the longest/pays to get items.

If you can honestly argue wealthy/long time players should have more strategic options I'd love to hear it, but as I stand now there is no way they should. A skill based FPS should be skill based, not who has devoted the most time/money.

 

[Motiv_]

I do enjoy the update, and I don't think Valve is screwing us over

...but there is this crafty little feature they put in to try to get your money:

In the item drop system, you might get a box. This box has an item in it. You don't know what it is, but there is a list of about 10-15 items, and you are told that the item will be one of those.
Some are hats.
Some are new weapons.
This box most likely has something good, and curiosity is urging you to open it...but you need a key. This key will not drop for free, though. You need to buy it for $2.49.
You cannot trade or craft the box, and you cannot trade for a key. You can buy the key for only $2.49 and find out what's in the box, delete the box, or leave it in your backpack forever, constantly intriguing you with its mystery...

I got a crate like you, and was told I'd have to buy a key for it. However, I was able to trade it for a Axtinguisher and Crit-A-Cola just fine. Maybe I was before or after some update? I dunno really.

 

[Ashcrexl]

I've wasted my life savings to satisfy my bald engie fetish! I've filled my entire backback with bald engie heads! HAAAAAAALP!!!!

 

[Phoenix Arrow]

I don't care about the new system. I can play the game, I don't need new stuff to keep me interested of make me better. The new pretty looking knife stabs people just as fine as the normal one. Valve can do what they want with selling stuff, that's fine.

But I think anyone who buys weapons you can get for free, not to mention at a price higher than the game itself, needs to reassess their priorities.

If you can honestly argue wealthy/long time players should have more strategic options I'd love to hear it, but as I stand now there is no way they should. A skill based FPS should be skill based, not who has devoted the most time/money.

Ha. Do you have any idea how much my kill:death ratio goes up when they release these packs? You can have all the fancy kit you want, if you can't use it, you can't use it.

Scout B still gets backstabbed just as easy. And Sniped just as easy. And still dies from a Krit-Wrench. And set on fire as easy.

If you're willing to pay £12 for a situational bonus, I've got a piece of the Brooklyn Bridge you'll just LOVE.

Oh Root. I've missed you.

 

[Cazza]

I'm disspointed in Valve but they haven't runied TF2. Think about it how long has TF2 been out. People still play. Valve have done a great job at increasing how long people play it for. Most games are empty servers by now.

I don't like the buying system as it does give people the ablity to buy an ingame advantage. I don't care how liitle. Or in the case of sniper a lot. Buying does in my opinion take out one of the purposes in the game to unlock items and craft. Damn did I feel good when I crafted my first hat. It's does something just make me feel like mine just playing to get items. Anyway buying takes out the awesomness of crafting or finding items which is their lose. I found a hat the other hat. That felt good.

 

[Thurmer]

people seriously thought tf2 was ruined? way to suck randoms of the interwebs.

 

[Shockolate]

Team Fortress 2 was always awesome and will continue to do so.

Though I am rather miffed at the drop rates for crates. I've gotten at least 10 of them since the update and, since I have no money, can't do anything with the damn things. Either make it so keys drop or make them craftable. Almost no one trades for crates, and my friends won't buy any keys for me. I owe 15 bucks already.

Other than that, keep up the good work Valve.

 

[MrGalactus]

FUCKING MICROSOFT!

 

[Lem0nade Inlay]

It's not too bad if you're used to it. But I think it will be much harder for a 'noob' who just started playing tf2, to play it casually. All the updates, achievements, weird servers and guns, can just go right over someones head.

 

[Delusibeta]

no i am saying look at their console. most of the "good" games left on their console are their franchises and the rest is shit. However if you notice how they faired through time its getting worse and worse. the old characters are long gone, replaced with "hey look at me, i am using _____ to sell more games! yay!". sonic is the prime example of how series that should be dead are being raped. samus is starting to show those signs until metroid 45: the car wash comes out when she uses her super boob powers to wash cars using soapy suds.

note: metroid 45 is a joke title. not a real game. don't go searching for it.

I'm going to be blunt. The stats you said don't prove anything.

Number of PS2 games rated 70 or higher by Metacritic: 769 (out of 1797, about 42.7%)

Compared to your stats for the GameCube's catalogue (52.4%) and Wii's catalogue (37.8%), I hearby declare that popular consoles are crap. And there's none more popular than the PS2, right?

Anyway, we're off topic here.

 

[Flying-Emu]

no i am saying look at their console. most of the "good" games left on their console are their franchises and the rest is shit. However if you notice how they faired through time its getting worse and worse. the old characters are long gone, replaced with "hey look at me, i am using _____ to sell more games! yay!". sonic is the prime example of how series that should be dead are being raped. samus is starting to show those signs until metroid 45: the car wash comes out when she uses her super boob powers to wash cars using soapy suds.

note: metroid 45 is a joke title. not a real game. don't go searching for it.

...

Once again, Nintendo has nothing to do with the development of 90% of those titles. Publishing them can only net them more money; why are you against this?

The games that Nintendo actually DEVELOPS continue to be impressive, top-of-the-line games.

WIth the noted exception of Metroid: Other M.

 

[Delusibeta]

no i am saying look at their console. most of the "good" games left on their console are their franchises and the rest is shit. However if you notice how they faired through time its getting worse and worse. the old characters are long gone, replaced with "hey look at me, i am using _____ to sell more games! yay!". sonic is the prime example of how series that should be dead are being raped. samus is starting to show those signs until metroid 45: the car wash comes out when she uses her super boob powers to wash cars using soapy suds.

note: metroid 45 is a joke title. not a real game. don't go searching for it.

...

Once again, Nintendo has nothing to do with the development of 90% of those titles. Publishing them can only net them more money; why are you against this?

The games that Nintendo actually DEVELOPS continue to be impressive, top-of-the-line games.

WIth the noted exception of Metroid: Other M.

...which was developed by Team Ninja, thus doesn't count.

 

[Sephychu]

I love the new update. Loads of new items, all of the ones I want for free, all of the buffs easy to counter.
What's not to love? It just changes up the gameplay, adds variation.

 

[Gindil]

I really don't mind the new system, since it doesn't affect game balance at all. Anything you can get through microtransactions you can still get from the old fashioned drop system, so the microtransactions are just for the impatient, or balance out those people who don't get a lot of chances to play but want the items.

Personally, I might even use the microtransaction system. I've been playing TF2 for a long time now, and I've gotten multiples of every item, yet I still have yet to get a single direct hit rocket launcher. I've just had bad luck with it, which is a shame, because the soldier class is one of my most used ones, and I want the direct hit. I might end up buying one.

I have two. I can give you one. Add me as a friend.

OT: They're growing the community [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-22-team-fortress-2-made-modders-USDthousands]. I think that's most important.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Nobody was talking aboot Goldeneye or the Metroid Prime series, we're talking aboot that so-so Valve shooter.
Each class update made the balance a little worse, and made the game a little grindier.

I have yet to notice this crappy balance you speak of. And I also have yet to notice the grind you speak of, and I've been playing it for ages now.

Most class updates just made it so that a class can change it's role a bit. Like the Sniper update, with the Huntsman it was now a lot more viable to play on close to medium range. Things like that.

As for the grind, it's not like you need those new weapons to progress through the game or something, hell for plenty of classes I still use the default layout even though I have plenty of weapons to choose from.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

The game isn't "broken" for myself. I'm just not having fun anymore.