Todd Howard called out for blowing off PS3 owners.

[WendelI]

Hey, what the heck is wrong with the people that complain about this.
It is their:

-Time
-Game
-Company
-Money
-LIFE

If they don't want to give you a patch then don't buy their next game. it is that simple that is how The fucking free market works.

This is not about PS3s or Xbox 360's this is more about "bill gates gave me 100 million to lick his ass, Well its 100 million..." If he got money from Microsoft to make this patch? well he will be the one driving the Lexus not you! what did you expect him to say?

Microsoft: We will give you money so you patch the Xbox Version of fallout 3.
Designer: Ok, I will do it.
Microsoft: ALL right then, But dont give it to the players at on their PS3s because We are an EviL CoPoRaTiOn ThaT iS SecRetLy PlanNing To rUle Deh WolrD!!!1111 Buahahaha!!!
Designer: No, I will not because i Like being fair and loyal to people who own a playstation as well.

No that is not what he said, He said give me the money here is your patch. if you want your PS3 version of a game patched then sony should be the one whoreing it self so you get your patch. Not you.
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Now that that rage is out, Well let me tell it to you in short, He got money, he did a job, you didn't get the job done? well that is because you havent given money.

 

[DirkGently]

The ending is not a 'glitch'. It's an end. It marks the end of the game. The very, very fucking end of the game. It's not just some quest, it's the last storyline quest, and is some major fucking business. This isn't Grand Theft Auto or Saints Row or The Elder Scrolls. You don't get to keep using the same character after the final main quest line because the game is over. The credits roll, and you go back to main screen because the fucking game is fucking over.

Also, pardon MS and Bethesda for cutting a shrewd deal while we're in the middle of a recession. God-fucking-forbid that somebody make some smart fucking business decisions.

Hmmm, I could have swore you could play your original file when you beat the game in Oblivions, GTA, and Saints Row. Hmm, I may be wrong on that.

And once again, I'm not condemning Microsoft for paying exclusivity rights! How about you read my fucking posts and know that I don't give two shits about the DLC and that I'm angry at Bethesda for not giving two shits about the PS3 owners. I know very well we're in a god damn recession, I'm not saying Bethesda are assholes for accepting the exclusive DLC deal, I'm saying they're assholes because they outright refuse to even care about half of their customers.

Read my god damn posts why don't you.

They're not those games. Therefore you *don't* get to run your 'I beat the story' character around the world after you beat the game. You've never been able to in other Fallout games, why should that change now?

Secondly, I'm not sure how Bethesda is not caring about half their fan base? Considering that the PS3 is one of three platforms, and that there are far more Xbox's than there is PS3's, and most likely there is more copies sold on the PC than the PS3, I'm pretty sure they're only not supporting less than a a third of their userbase. I'd get an actual number but I'm too lazy to go and look up the sales numbers, if they're even available, for the PC/360/PS3 sales of F3. But I don't know what they're not doing. Are there numerous glitches in the PS3 version? Do they break the game or make it severely painful to play?

Jumplion, why do you need to play after the ending? You can just reload a save from beforehand and not do the final quest. It's not like you get anything special, and you'd only be able to play if you choose the evil the ending, and there'd be nothing to do if you did the evil-evil ending. Also, stop for a second. You want to keep playing after the end of the game. The End. Ending. The finale, the last part of it after which there are no other parts because it's the ending.

It is more of the principle of the matter. PS3 owners paid the same as everyone else and are not given the same options as everyone else.

No they didn't. I paid $70 for my copy of F3 + 1 Piece of DLC. That breaks down to $60 for game, and $10 for the DLC, which is the standard costs for those items on the 360. I paid more, and got more. True, we paid the same upfront, but I got the platform it was designed for, not the port. The platform made by a company known to buy exclusive DLC rights.

Fallout 3 was designed for the 360? That is something new to me. Wasn't it designed for the PC which is why that is a better version of the game?

Anyway. I paid 70? for Fallout 3 on the PS3. Which is more than you spent on the game so I deserve the DLC more than you.

Also, I remember hearing somewhere that F3 was developed mainly for the 360, or atleast developed directly for the 360, which is something that's not particularly surprising since the 360 uses MS own version of C++, C# (or C++++), and that is the language of their SDK, and undoubtedly used for Games For Windows. Which is what F3 is.

Really, you deserve sympathy for getting dicked on video games, but then again, you don't go and stop buying them, do you?

 

[SomeBritishDude]

Gaming site GameGazette.net has called out Todd Howard for blowing off all the PS3 owners

Wait wait wait...So if I buy a PS3 I get blown off!? Sign me up!

 

[Jumplion]

Condensed to the Extreme

Huh, I could have sworn that you could play after those game ended. Well, I guess that makes this whole argument moot point now, ah well. Well played my fellow sir. Though I'm certain you could play after the end of Oblivion...

 

[Vlane]

Really, you deserve sympathy for getting dicked on video games, but then again, you don't go and stop buying them, do you?

I don't get this point. Do you mean I'm an idiot because I bought the PS3 version of Fallout 3 which is one of the worst ports in recent times? If yes then I have to write this:

I considered buying the PC version of Fallout 3 but since there is no real demo so I can see how it runs on my PC I didn't bought it.

I didn't bought the game for my 360 becauee I hate the controller. Really that's it.

I then bought it for my PS3. I haven't read or watched any reviews of the game on the PS3 so I didn't knew that it is so bad.

That's the whole story.

 

[DirkGently]

Condensed to the Extreme

Huh, I could have sworn that you could play after those game ended. Well, I guess that makes this whole argument moot point now, ah well. Well played my fellow sir. Though I'm certain you could play after the end of Oblivion...

Fallout 3 isn't Oblivion. It is not Far Cry 2. It is not GTA or Saints Row. Those are games in which you can play after completing your story. This is a game where you cannot play after completing the story. Fallout games do not let you keep playing after completing the story. The other games did not let you play after completing it, why should Fallout 3 let you continue to play after the story.

It's not like the 360/PC versions got patches allow you to play after completing the story. Is that what Broken Steel will do? I don't know. I know it's going to extend the main story. That might just mean an additional mission before Take It Back. They might make up an excuse to have you live. And even if it does, it's not like we get it for free. Why should you?

Really, you deserve sympathy for getting dicked on video games, but then again, you don't go and stop buying them, do you?

I don't get this point. Do you mean I'm an idiot because I bought the PS3 version of Fallout 3 which is one of the worst ports in recent times? If yes then I have to write this:

I considered buying the PC version of Fallout 3 but since there is no real demo so I can see how it runs on my PC I didn't bought it.

I didn't bought the game for my 360 becauee I hate the controller. Really that's it.

I then bought it for my PS3. I haven't read or watched any reviews of the game on the PS3 so I didn't knew that it is so bad.

That's the whole story.

That's why you go, read reviews and some research before you buy the product. It could have waited a bit to see how it handle on PC setups like yours, or to ask around and see what people thought of your setup and handling the game.

But that's not what I meant. What I meant was, they charge you ten euros more than the amount of dollars it costs, and what's a Euro now, a dollar fifty? If you know about this, which you seem to, though you might have discovered this after-the-fact, you still buy it, and allow them to overcharge you.

 

[GonzoGamer]

But then we'd get no competition, no learning from past mistakes, no reason to push forward technologically, and a monopoly would take place where the console would cost $1000 not including $25 online and multiple addons and features.

A one console future is not a way to solve the problem, it's the opposite of it. There is no "one blu-ray player future" or "one HD TV future" and there is plenty of HD TVs and Blu-ray players and those items constantly try to improve and upgrade. If there was "the one HD TV to rule them all!" then we'd be stuck with it for years.

You misunderstood me.
I'm not saying there should be ONE console made by one company every generation; I don't like monopolies either. The idea would be there would be a standard system format in the same way you can get a PC from any company and get it to play games: an Acer plays the same games as a Dell and an HP and even an Alienware. They'll still offer their own preferences to online, controllers, interface, and what not but they'll all play the same software.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Gaming site GameGazette.net has called out Todd Howard for blowing off all the PS3 owners

Wait wait wait...So if I buy a PS3 I get blown off!? Sign me up!

Yea but only by Todd Howard: this is Bethesda we're talking about.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

Gaming site GameGazette.net has called out Todd Howard for blowing off all the PS3 owners

Wait wait wait...So if I buy a PS3 I get blown off!? Sign me up!

Yea but only by Todd Howard: this is Bethesda we're talking about.

Oh...ewww...

Ahh well, a blow is a blow.

 

[squid5580]

Really, you deserve sympathy for getting dicked on video games, but then again, you don't go and stop buying them, do you?

I don't get this point. Do you mean I'm an idiot because I bought the PS3 version of Fallout 3 which is one of the worst ports in recent times? If yes then I have to write this:

I considered buying the PC version of Fallout 3 but since there is no real demo so I can see how it runs on my PC I didn't bought it.

I didn't bought the game for my 360 becauee I hate the controller. Really that's it.

I then bought it for my PS3. I haven't read or watched any reviews of the game on the PS3 so I didn't knew that it is so bad.

That's the whole story.

Man I was following Fallout 3 for months before release and not once did I read that DLC was going to be on everything but the PS3. Sure there is some minor graphical differences between the 2 console versions (which is kinda expected) but they waited til after release, after it sold millions, then drop the DLC bomb. The word scam keeps coming to mind.

 

[Jumplion]

You misunderstood me.
I'm not saying there should be ONE console made by one company every generation; I don't like monopolies either. The idea would be there would be a standard system format in the same way you can get a PC from any company and get it to play games: an Acer plays the same games as a Dell and an HP and even an Alienware. They'll still offer their own preferences to online, controllers, interface, and what not but they'll all play the same software.

Ah, format, my mistake. Pardon me.

Fallout 3 isn't Oblivion. It is not Far Cry 2. It is not GTA or Saints Row. Those are games in which you can play after completing your story. This is a game where you cannot play after completing the story. Fallout games do not let you keep playing after completing the story. The other games did not let you play after completing it, why should Fallout 3 let you continue to play after the story.

It's not like the 360/PC versions got patches allow you to play after completing the story. Is that what Broken Steel will do? I don't know. I know it's going to extend the main story. That might just mean an additional mission before Take It Back. They might make up an excuse to have you live. And even if it does, it's not like we get it for free. Why should you?

Whoa, dude, calm down, the argument's done. If you want to continue this, fine, but anyway.

The DLC does allow play after the game ends, and Tod Howard has admitted that they should never have made the game "end". [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.85474#1244064]

The Broken Steel DLC does allow the player to play after the ending and raises the level cap to 30. It doesn't extend the main story, it just adds another quest to play with new items. Again, I don't care that much about the quest the DLC gives you, but Microsoft did not pay for a patch to be exclusive.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Who cares? They're just filthy, filthy console tards.
LONG LIVE THE PC GAMING MASTER RACE

On a serious note, though, I, while not at all affected by his decision, am curious as to why he chose it.

One can only assume the decision was made on financial grounds. XBox and PC's have at least a degree of basic compatibility - the PS3 does not. It is likely easier to patch issues on the 360 and PC because of this. On the subject of DLC, if they can get paid for 360 and PC but not the PS3, what is the incentive to deliver additional content?

It might not be fair, but I hardly doubt it's part of some insidious plot against the PS3 fanbase. Besides, no one really seems to be serious when they say things like this - afterall, people assumed it would be a cold day in hell before PS3 owners got to play Bioshock.

 

[DirkGently]

Jumplion, why do you need to play after the ending? You can just reload a save from beforehand and not do the final quest. It's not like you get anything special, and you'd only be able to play if you choose the evil the ending, and there'd be nothing to do if you did the evil-evil ending. Also, stop for a second. You want to keep playing after the end of the game. The End. Ending. The finale, the last part of it after which there are no other parts because it's the ending.

Yeah I don't get why people ***** about this either. If you want to keep playing, simply don't enter the final room. There's no need for a 'patch' to 'fix' the ending. It may not be the best ending it the world, but it's the conclusion to the game. All games end, and Fallout 3 is no different.

Personally I'm not bothered about the DLC. For the combined price I could probably buy another full game and have money to spare. I mean, there are dozens of games to play, why obsess over one? Feedback for Operation Anchorage has been mostly negative anyway.

Yeah, you could buy the old Fallout games six times. Or Left 4 Dead, the old Fallouts, and dinner for yourself.

Really, you deserve sympathy for getting dicked on video games, but then again, you don't go and stop buying them, do you?

I don't get this point. Do you mean I'm an idiot because I bought the PS3 version of Fallout 3 which is one of the worst ports in recent times? If yes then I have to write this:

I considered buying the PC version of Fallout 3 but since there is no real demo so I can see how it runs on my PC I didn't bought it.

I didn't bought the game for my 360 becauee I hate the controller. Really that's it.

I then bought it for my PS3. I haven't read or watched any reviews of the game on the PS3 so I didn't knew that it is so bad.

That's the whole story.

Man I was following Fallout 3 for months before release and not once did I read that DLC was going to be on everything but the PS3. Sure there is some minor graphical differences between the 2 console versions (which is kinda expected) but they waited til after release, after it sold millions, then drop the DLC bomb. The word scam keeps coming to mind.

Did you ever read that it would be coming to the PS3? And did they promise, or say that they might? Did they ever promise DLC? I don't follow hype, so I wouldn't know, but unless they signed a contract, or said "Yes, I would buy this game on the console of preference because they will all get the same treatment.", or something along those lines

EDIT: Also, they waited so long because MS waited so long to see if they'd have a viable user base to buy the DLC.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Man I was following Fallout 3 for months before release and not once did I read that DLC was going to be on everything but the PS3. Sure there is some minor graphical differences between the 2 console versions (which is kinda expected) but they waited til after release, after it sold millions, then drop the DLC bomb. The word scam keeps coming to mind.

If you are in the habit of purchasing products based on the perceived and/or theoretical future worth and content of said product, you may want to reexamine your buying habits. The product delivered was the product offered - if you attached more content than advertised to the product, that seems to be a failing on your part, not a scam on the developer's/publisher's part.

And, at what point did it become an expectation that a product continue to receive content after shipping? Tech support I can understand but there was quite a span of time where additional content (expansion packs) cost a substantial amount of money (often about 1/2 the price of the game).

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

Howard: "Cuz the PS3 doesn't have 'nough games like the super cool mature Xbawks where you can POW POW SHOOT OFF THEM GUYZ HEADS AND SEE 'SPLOSIONS! LOLCARNAGE! Plus MGS has too much wordage and I can't understands them and he's old and not enough bloom and I can't put in my XBOXLIVE friends and Halo. PS3 SUX!"

Actual quote.

Your sarcasm is neither funny nor amusing...

I found it amusing in the way a monkey with brain damage is amusing...

 

[GonzoGamer]

Gaming site GameGazette.net has called out Todd Howard for blowing off all the PS3 owners

Wait wait wait...So if I buy a PS3 I get blown off!? Sign me up!

Yea but only by Todd Howard: this is Bethesda we're talking about.

Oh...ewww...

Ahh well, a blow is a blow.

You've played their games, would you want to be blown by their idea of a woman? There are robots in Japan that are comparable.
I guess that's still better than Todd.

 

[DirkGently]

Howard: "Cuz the PS3 doesn't have 'nough games like the super cool mature Xbawks where you can POW POW SHOOT OFF THEM GUYZ HEADS AND SEE 'SPLOSIONS! LOLCARNAGE! Plus MGS has too much wordage and I can't understands them and he's old and not enough bloom and I can't put in my XBOXLIVE friends and Halo. PS3 SUX!"

Actual quote.

Your sarcasm is neither funny nor amusing...

I found it amusing in the way a monkey with brain damage is amusing...

I dunno, I can believe that was written by Micheal "EXPLOSIONS!" Bay.

And brain damage is never funny. Ever.