Topless Women Not Breaking The Law, Says NYPD

[Darken12]

There was no law preventing woman from being topless, there was confusion over the exact ruling.

If law enforcers believed that the law prevented women from being topless, then to them, the law prevented women from being topless, and clarification was necessary. Hence why this is a big deal, because law enforcers enforce the law, so if they make a mistake in the interpretation of the law, it's not exactly a silly misunderstanding.

 

[John Dore]

I'm all for gender equality...problem is most women don't actually want equality... they want special consideration. You want true equality than meet the same standards as men... Police, fire, military for example.... They scream "we are equal, ....but...can you lower the standards so we can get into the same jobs...OH and BTW we want the same pay or a physical job that I have no capability of doing...." Example... I get called out ALL the time to help girls do some heavy lifting.... We get paid the same...but im the one throwing my back out, b/c "im a girl..i can't lift that" ...well then give me extra money for doing more work... Oh that's sexist?? makes sense /s.

And I laugh when I see a woman stepping to a guy thinking he won't touch her and he knocks the hell out of her... there is your gender equality.

 

[John Dore]

Side note... a comedian/news podcaster points out..... If a woman can't feed her kids...what does she do? She goes to the state and gets help.. Ahh poor woman... If a man can't pay his child support... what happens?? He goes to jail or labeled a dead beat... Why isn't the woman a deadbeat and gets help but the guy doesn't get any kind of special help from the state...

No..not divorced and I don't pay child support... Just seen it happen to a few guys. When women start protesting that BS I listed then I will care about gender equality.

 

[The Lunatic]

There was no law preventing woman from being topless, there was confusion over the exact ruling.

If law enforcers believed that the law prevented women from being topless, then to them, the law prevented women from being topless, and clarification was necessary. Hence why this is a big deal, because law enforcers enforce the law, so if they make a mistake in the interpretation of the law, it's not exactly a silly misunderstanding.

But, it is, because obviously there's going to be confusion over an area that's still a bit taboo especially when we have conflicting laws about public decency and what have you.

A lot of people deem breasts as a sexually explicit part of a woman's body.

And given there was no clear wording in the law stating "This is fine", it was ultimately up to the officer's decision.

Now, you'll have to forgive some people for having different opinions on this case, but, ultimately, it's a fault of the law for not being clear.

Not a fault of "The man" for "Oppressing" women.

It's entirely reasonable to see where the misunderstanding would come from, as there is some debate to the issue. However, there was never any law that prevent women from doing so. Just a law that was down to interpretation, and a popular opinion was enforced.

I imagine the same ruling applies to assless chaps for what its worth.

While, sure, human behinds aren't a sexual part of his or her body, I don't think we'd be allowed to walk down the street having them exposed. Although, who knows. Maybe that'll be the next announcement.

 

[Darken12]

Not a fault of "The man" for "Oppressing" women.

Ah, I get it now.

While I wouldn't put it in such drastic terms, I do believe this is a positive step towards gender equality under the eyes of the law, so let's just agree to disagree.

 

[rasputin0009]

That's cool, I'm glad people can do more of whatever they want. Just be warned that you have no right to tell people to stop staring if you do this, since where a person may look in public is just as free as your right to be topless.

Now, if I may make a plea: please keep your shirt on, I hate seeing people with their shirts off, regardless of gender. Especially at the gym. I hate the guys at the gym and their shirts v. skin basketball matches, always trying to show off as much skin as possible than the next guy */grumbles and walks off snarling*

EDIT: Also, of all the cold cities in the US...

EDIT 2: You know what? MAKE EVERYONE WEAR SHIRTS. REGARLDESS OF GENDER.
[small]especially at the gym[/small]

Especially at the gym! That's gross, and that causes major health risks. Most gyms I've been to have dress codes for that reason. Your gym should know better and you should definitely write a complaint to the manager/owner of the gym.

OT: Let the titties fly! Baring your skin should be less taboo because it helps society become more open and safe. As long as you're not rubbing your raw skin on other people or furniture or whatever, then it's all good.

 

[Shinsei-J]

I imagine the same ruling applies to assless chaps for what its worth.

While, sure, human behinds aren't a sexual part of his or her body, I don't think we'd be allowed to walk down the street having them exposed. Although, who knows. Maybe that'll be the next announcement.

God I hope so, just for hilarity sake.

I say we just make nudity legal and abolish all public lewdness laws. Get rid of all sexual stigmas.
I hope within my lifetime I can see a man and a woman walk down the street in nothing their birthday suits and watch because it's just to damn hot to have cloths on. I can see it now.

The woman walks near,
The man gets an slight erection and the woman just says "thank you"
The man says "no problem, you're really pretty"
She bushes and says "you're not to bad your self"
He laughs, she laughs and they go there separate ways.

Oh what a perfect world. *tears up*

 

[Woodsey]

Honestly, to say this is a win for "gender equality" spits in the face of actual issues that both sides suffer and is incredibly insulting. Someone's inability to be bare chested is so laughably insignificant compared to earning gap, child custody, employment, and other issues that have ACTUAL negative impacts on people's lives.

There's always a bigger problem. May as well cross off the small and rather meaningless ones whilst you're still working on the others.

 

[nuba km]

*snip*

So your argument hinges on a self-perpetuating circular logic grounded on traditionalism. Got it. Already had that argument on this thread.

No, my argument is sexuality is a non exiting property, you can't stick a sexometer into a body part and go 'well this tongue is 10 throbs'. So trying to say that man boobs should be treated the same way as female boobs is saying that our society should stop considering female breast as a sexual body part. Which is a perfectly valid view to take. But saying that in a culture were breasts are viewed as something sexual allowing woman to walk around with them exposed is not the same as allowing a man to walk around with nothing sexual exposed, hence not gender equality. ALso here are some points you didn't address:
1. why my argument is circular, because frankly I don't see your logic behind that beyond not wanting to address any points in it.
2. anything at all in my entire post

 

[JoJo]

Seems fine to me, here in Europe (especially on the continent) people are far more relaxed about bare breasts on the beach, in the pool etc... there's no reason to be ashamed of our bodies, male or female, so why try to hide them?

 

[Vegosiux]

No, my argument is sexuality is a non exiting property, you can't stick a sexometer into a body part and go 'well this tongue is 10 throbs'.

Just saying....if a scale for "sexualness" of stuff is ever developed, I am so going to campaign for it to mesure it in "throbs".

As for on topic, well, luckily enough we're quite cool about boobs in public here as well. Honestly, having gone to sauna a lot in years past, after a while of being in a place where everyone is naked, you stop even noticing it.

 

[nuba km]

No, my argument is sexuality is a non exiting property, you can't stick a sexometer into a body part and go 'well this tongue is 10 throbs'.

Just saying....if a scale for "sexualness" of stuff is ever developed, I am so going to campaign for it to mesure it in "throbs".

Yea I can't take credit for that joke got it form mbmbam (my brother, my brother and me, if your looking for it google maximumfun) except they wanted to use it to measure love not sexualness. just trying to give credit were credit is due.

 

[McKinsey]

Yeah, it's fun to pretend that we as a species have evolved to the stage where we can have full control over our body and it's desires... But actually we don't control jack, and probably never will. The fact is, men get aroused at the sight of bare boobs. It's normal. It's biology. Women are not (were not) allowed to walk like this in public not because it's somehow against God's law, but simply because it would distract a helluva lot of dudes. Like, on a daily basis. Forever.
You can argue with politics. You can't argue with nature.

 

[Ryan Minns]

I wonder if this will stop people freaking out about breastfeeding in public?
Probably not, funnily enough.

And lol at the `but what about men LOOKING at the boobs that might not be pretty?` comments.
Like I want to look at some dude's glistening man-baps.

Hey hey hey! I'm quite proud of how my man-baps glisten after I've got a sweat happening from walking to the fridge for another snack! How could you not like the sight? How weird!

Seriously though I also wish for the breast feeding thing to fuck off. I personally witnessed a woman start yelling at a mother to shut her baby up. Her baby was crying because he was hungry so the mother whipped her tit out (Rather discretely given what she was wearing) and HOLY SHIT did the woman start going off about how perverted the mother was and started dribbling on like a hysterical idiot. I really wanted to say something but life has taught me that I can't intervene with certain things.

 

[frizzlebyte]

Not interested in reading the whole thread, but I think what a lot of people forget about topfree laws is that just because you *can* do it, doesn't mean everyone will suddenly start doing it. Most people (I'd wager) are too self-conscious to go topless, which helps explain the laws that forbid it in the first place.

While I am not concerned keeping the status quo, I also think this is fine, too. People need to get over the whole "it's for the children" defense, which I hear a lot when arguments about this comes up. Children will not be scarred for life by seeing a boob, unless the parents go crazy and scare the kid about it.

 

[McKinsey]

So ... you would also be in favour of women being arrested for just being too damn sexy? Because sexy women are arousing to men and that's just nature, so they shouldn't be allowed out on the street because it's "distracting" for men and they might ... walk into lamp posts or something. Yep, makes total sense.

You can't help being sexy. But dressing like a nudist - that's totally your choice, and it's a choice that affects other people, y'know. Also, there's a big difference between a beautiful woman and a beautiful woman going semi-naked, but to know that difference you actually have to see a naked woman first. Not on the Internet, I mean.
I like Megadeth, but I wouldn't go into a public place with my boom box blasting Megadeth, because I know it would make people there uncomfortable and disrupt their day. That's what society is about - trying not to hurt each other and living in peace. Meanwhile this issue with topless women just screams, "Oh yeah! Suck it, men!". I don't think that's a healthy approach to living in modern society.

 

[Froggy Slayer]

I say we just make nudity legal and abolish all public lewdness laws. Get rid of all sexual stigmas.
I hope within my lifetime I can see a man and a woman walk down the street in nothing their birthday suits and watch because it's just to damn hot to have cloths on. I can see it now.
Oh what a perfect world. *tears up*

I always assumed that public nudity was pretty much legal as long as you're not going around jerkin'/flickin' it.