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LetoTheTyrant

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RicoADF said:
If their going backwards to a time before Empire and Nepoleon then I'd be very disapointed. The series is best when it continues forward.
Disagree with that.
1. It's moving into more familiar, modern history. I always kinda liked being able to read and learn stuff and seeing all the different types of things.
2. More modern is more uniform. Start to see it Empires, Line Infantry, for every major nation (well the traditional major players, England, France etc. ). Less variety in a nation, and less variety between nations.
3. I was soooo much better at battles without guns! I'm getting good with naval battles (which I love to watch), but for land battles? Auto is better than I am! In Rome and Medieval I could win battles Auto would have me lose badly. Ok, I guess that's partly the AI, but I just couldn't do guns well.

Not to say I didn't like Empires, the scope, the ability to recruit in the field, spreading the cities out and the technology map! Loved those. And the duels! Those, with two people who couldn't actually fight, those little videos were brilliant.
 

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RicoADF said:
If their going backwards to a time before Empire and Nepoleon then I'd be very disapointed. The series is best when it continues forward.
Yes they are. And no. The series mechanics cant handle modern/futuristic warfare. I say lets go back to japan, Shogun 2.
 

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RicoADF said:
If their going backwards to a time before Empire and Nepoleon then I'd be very disapointed. The series is best when it continues forward.
WWI really is the limit for this type of game. From WWII onward you're not going to find huge numbers of people marching in formations and there's air force to be taken into account, too. Also, there would be no melee battles anymore.
 

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I dont see how they will handle the faster firing weapons that started to become aviable in the 1800's, regiments would be chewed up in seconds.
Empire is my favourite of the bunch, Total war 2 was fun, but the pace of it annoyed me and the Meele battles often turned into a grind, unless you really outnumbered the enemy. I liked the fact that you had to trade off between range and meele, and doing so at the right time was vital. Also getting a strong econmy and army going is much easier in Empire, in Total War a few units of kights would bankraupt you, and you often spent more on city garrisons than the citys gave you in taxes, even with all the improvements
 

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IT HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED



PREHISTORIC: TOTAL WAR
Will be released with game-destroying, soul-eradicating, rage-inducing bugs, free of charge[footnote]Will not be free. Price will range from stupidly cheap to aggravatingly extortionate [/footnote]
 

HK_01

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GrinningManiac said:
IT HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED



PREHISTORIC: TOTAL WAR
Will be released with game-destroying, soul-eradicating, rage-inducing bugs, free of charge[footnote]Will not be free. Price will range from stupidly cheap to aggravatingly extortionate [/footnote]
Hahaha, you just made my day good sir.

Mackheath said:
Total War; Stone Age. Use your groups of cavemen to club ravening sabre-tooth cats to death.
Same for you. Your comment actually made me laugh out loud.
 

ElephantGuts

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I don't really care what game it is as long as CA learned from Empire and went back to doing whatever they were doing when they made Rome and Medieval II.
 

Petromir

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HK_01 said:
Petromir said:
HK_01 said:
I'm just glad they're moving away from gunpowder again.

So excited to find out what it'll be!
Its got a bloody long way to go before they've got away from gunpoweder being dominat in western warfare, another 200ish years.
Just look at how much sand is still left in the hourglass. I'd say that at most, 1/5 has fallen through so far.
I wouldnt take that as an accurte guide meself. I'd personally like a new rome game but less rome focussed.
 

Asehujiko

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Based on how much sand there still is despite being almost 200 years on it's way I'd say something during the birth of civilizations, Egypt, Mesopotamia etc...
 

Plurralbles

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i think only a 20th of the sand has fallen. Doing the math, it ends up that it will be around 3500 years ago. 1500Bc

The element Mercury has been discovered in Egyptian tombs dating from this decade.
1506 BC ? Cecrops, legendary King of Athens, dies after a reign of 50 years. Having survived his own son, he is succeeded by Cranaus.
c. 1506 BC ? Thutmose I (Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt) starts to rule. Alternatively, a date of c. 1504 BC is a possibility.
Egypt conquers Nubia and the Levant (1504 BC?1492 BC).
Earliest remains of domesticated ferrets found[1].
Biblical Exodus, according to Simcha Jacobovici in the earliest suggestion of the documentary Exodus Decoded.
Polynesians settle in Fiji.
c. 1500 BC ? Mycenaean civilization starts in Ancient Greece.
c. 1500 BC - Formative/Preclassic period starts in Mesoamerica.
1500 BC?500 BC?Vedas are composed.

wikipedia'ed events.

Chinese astronomers make the earliest record of an appearance of a comet.
c. 1500 BC India [Hinduism] The Hindu Vedic hymns and religious rituals become established in India.
c. 1500 BC Europe [everyday life] The Urnfield cultures flourish in this and the following century in England (in Wessex), southern Germany, and Denmark. The Urnfield people are pastoral rather than agricultural, use bronze extensively, and are ruled by a warrior class of aristocracy. They cremate chiefs and their families and place the remains in urns which are then interred in cemeteries. The culture continues into the Iron Age (c. 700 BC).
c. 1500 BC Central America, North America, South America [everyday life] Neolithic skills similar to those in Europe ? weaving, basketmaking, pottery, the building of houses, and the formation of villages ? develop in the Americas, as well as a priest class. The use of iron, the wheel, the plough, and money will not develop until the coming of European colonialists.
c. 1500 BC Asia Minor [materials] The Hittites of Asia Minor are the first to discover how to obtain iron from iron ore. Although iron is the second most abundant metal in the Earth's crust, metallic iron is only known from the rare discovery of iron-rich meteorites.
c. 1500 BC China [transport] Wheeled vehicles appear in China.

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Expect a bunch of bulllshit and extreme historical inaccuracies.

Hopefully it's still fun.

alternatively, it could be up to a 12th or so, which would land us smack dab back in the birth of Rome.
 

HK_01

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Plurralbles said:
Why expect bullshit and historical inaccuracies? So far, I haven't seen many mistakes in the TWs except for starting positions, and that was for balancing.
 

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black orchid1 said:
i would like rome with new features but if not i would want world war 1-2 with proper trench warfare with artillary and supplies lines that would be important
There's a team making a WW1 mod for Napoleon Total War ( http://www.moddb.com/mods/ww1tw ) which seems to have trenches, tanks and artillery.

OT: I was hoping the next TW would be a revisiting of Shogun, but judging by the current speed of the timeline, I would guess that we're looking at something in the 1st millenium AD at the latest, probably earlier.
 

SextusMaximus

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Yes, yes, yes!
RicoADF said:
If their going backwards to a time before Empire and Nepoleon then I'd be very disapointed. The series is best when it continues forward.
and No! The series turned into a pile of skirmishing gun fights with no fun at all. It lost the magic that made the TW games what they were.

EDIT: 1824? Damn it.
 

Mr Companion

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I really hope this series finally comes to a close. I have played many and they are all so alike. In fact I have played nearly all of them. They just become so tedious.
 

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Mr Companion said:
I really hope this series finally comes to a close. I have played many and they are all so alike. In fact I have played nearly all of them. They just become so tedious.
It's not like you have to buy them. I personally am really looking forward to the next installment in the series and I'm sure that many other people are, too.
 

Plurralbles

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HK_01 said:
Plurralbles said:
Why expect bullshit and historical inaccuracies? So far, I haven't seen many mistakes in the TWs except for starting positions, and that was for balancing.
I think CA gets less and less accurate the further they go back in time. Screeching women? Wardogs? Warpigs? Gladiator units? Arcani? No. Not good. Unless you can prove that Empire is just as inaccurate in such blatant ways...