Transgender Q & A
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Most, if not all of us, grow up feeling like we've got the mind of one gender and the body of another. This has been strongly hypothesized and explained: we kind of literally have our brains wired in the fashion of our target sex, rather than our birth sex. This has been confirmed since 1995, with the study Zhou et. al.(1995). Most of us don't mind the gender binary: we just wound up on the wrong side.Vhite said:
No, no, no, no ..... not The Village B.Beautiful Tragedy said:
I used to like you.
I really don't like that film. That and Open Water are my top 2 most disappointing films of all time (it was a tough call will Battlefield Earth running a close 3rd).
But I can't really comment seeing as one of my favourite films is Ace Ventura Pet Detective.
I want Penguins to live in my fridge.
But nothing living in my toilet ... that's just odd.
Okay, I have a question about pre-op sex. I haven't read the entire thread so I apologize if someone brought this up already, but when you're having sex, can you orgasm without you or someone else touching your male organs? If not, does having to acknowledge and manipulate that part of your body break your perception of yourself as a woman?
Totally misread what you had said lolRawne1980 said:
Ace Ventura? really? sad .... hehe my favorite movie is Finding Forrester.
I cannot speak as a Transgender person but I can answer that on a technical basis. People with Male organs can achieve orgasm without direct stimulation of the penis, both by prostrate stimulation or in some cases stimulation of sensitive parts of the body. Also consider premature ejaculation, in these cases its possible to orgasm simply by arousal or light intimate contact.PeterMerkin69 said:
I have no answer for the perception that any TG person feels though.
Be warned, they drink all your beer and shit in the crisper...Rawne1980 said:
It's like living with Engineering students
There is nothing wrong with Ace Ventura ... one day it will be a classic, i'm telling you.Beautiful Tragedy said:
My favourite film is Lost Boys.
Sadly I have to admit i've never heard of Finding Forrester.
Those little feathered bastards ..... how could they do such things.RhombusHatesYou said:
The crisper I could deal with but the beer drinking is a step too far.
Guess i'll have to stick with Skunks in the laundry basket.
ok Lost Boys is awesome..you need to watch Finding Forrester... it's awesome, and really gives some insight to what writers go through...especially suddenly successful ones.Rawne1980 said:
There's a bigger problem than you think: Penguins are actually running the world in secret, under the coalition of the penguin mafia. Here's one of the few photos that we know of:Rawne1980 said:
These guys mean serious business. Do not fuck with them.
I guess I'll bite again. Personally I consider myself biologically to be a MtF transsexual, mid-transition. Boring answer, but seriously. We have androgynous bodies, and essentially have an intersexual issue (can't find the right word atm). One should consider that the specialist doctors noted extreme similarities between intersexuals and transsexuals when it came to their view of their own body and desire to change it. Genereally speaking.CorvusFerreum said:Don't worry, I wouldn't call anyone trans-anything. I would call them by their name and refer to them as their gender (as in the gender they identify with). I was just curious how people would like to have their sex refered to from a biological standpoint. I'm sometimes just curious about the weirdest things (and also a biologist.)Angelowl said:In most cases yes, it's more or less how I percieve it. Regarding terminology it's pretty simple really. I'm a girl, if I need to clarify I would call myself a transgirl or TS-girl as I see fit. Some would demand to be recognized as the right gender pre-transition or be seriously offended it you call them trans-anything. Understandable, but give the "normal" people something to work with. It is pretty complicated if you're new to the concept.CorvusFerreum said:
I simply have to add something I noticed. On the local TS-forum and IRL in sweden I've encountered three general archetypes of transsexuals. Those who desire to be normal, the LBGTQ-activists, and Metal-heads/goths, who are fairly kinky and tend to be bisexual. I fall into this third category myself.
Thanks for the quick answer though.
as stated above, this wasn't my intent.an annoyed writer said:
I'm still curious about a rule of thump on how to tell transgender and transsexual apart. THe line just seems blurry (to me at least). And this thread is an oportunity to me to learn about this before accidently offending somebody out of ignorance.
See, this is where terms like "transgirl" and "TS-girl" comes into play. Because if you just use the ordinary terminology people end up confused and at the wrong conclusions.
Dafuq do I know. XD In sweden the term transperson is over-reaching and supposed to catch all abnormally-gendered individuals. With the different categories fitted into the box, side-effect being that people tend to think about extremely flamboyant drag-queens when they hear "trans" (my grandmother for instance thinks I'm a drag-queen). :S
Swedes consider the term transgender the english equivalent to transperson, a use I've seen in america amongst others. Then it gets messy, transgenders that don't like transsexuals and transsexuals who don't like trangendered indivuals. In a very ironic way there's a whole bunch of transphobic trans-people, they get absurd at times.
Don't go cheap and settle for ferrets in the sock drawer... they're vicious, they stink and they steal everything... it's like living with tiny Glaswegians.Rawne1980 said:
As a recently-out transvestite (horrible term, cross-dresser isn't much better. I'm working on androgynous), I think there's far too much emphasis on the 'rules' and labeling every permutation of the transgender spectrum. A lot of people don't necessarily want or feel the need for society to try and fit individuals into the 'normal' male/female paradigm and want to have the right to be as masculine or feminine as they like without it undermining how they are considered as a person.
One theory (which I subscribe to) is that there are 3 main facets of gender/sexuality.
Sexual Identity - This is the physical body that you are in and how you feel about it. For the majority of people it's relatively straightforward but it can be more complex for people who for whatever reason have a mix of male & female biological traits or those who wish to change their physical sex.
Gender Identity - This is in the mind, so to speak, and possibly the most overlooked and misunderstood area. This is not necessarily a case of 'I feel like a boy' or 'I feel like a girl', it is a scale. Plenty of people might consider may wish to express themselves as masculine or feminine as they like in any given moment, but feel completely happy in their body.
Sexual Orientation - So we know what this is, right? It is also a scale. So you're a 'straight' guy but you can't help but think that this one guy is cute? Does this make you gay? Bisexual? Bi curious? My response is - why the fuck does it matter? I've known a few guys who for intents and purposes were straight guys, but with the right mix of flirty fun and confidence, can find another guy attractive. Lets face it, we don't fancy people simply on the basis that they are of the gender that we've 'decided' we like.
Sorry for the wall of text, and apologies if this duplicates previous points, I read pages 1 & 2 then skipped to 5. Although I feel the discussion's gone off topic...
One theory (which I subscribe to) is that there are 3 main facets of gender/sexuality.
Sexual Identity - This is the physical body that you are in and how you feel about it. For the majority of people it's relatively straightforward but it can be more complex for people who for whatever reason have a mix of male & female biological traits or those who wish to change their physical sex.
Gender Identity - This is in the mind, so to speak, and possibly the most overlooked and misunderstood area. This is not necessarily a case of 'I feel like a boy' or 'I feel like a girl', it is a scale. Plenty of people might consider may wish to express themselves as masculine or feminine as they like in any given moment, but feel completely happy in their body.
Sexual Orientation - So we know what this is, right? It is also a scale. So you're a 'straight' guy but you can't help but think that this one guy is cute? Does this make you gay? Bisexual? Bi curious? My response is - why the fuck does it matter? I've known a few guys who for intents and purposes were straight guys, but with the right mix of flirty fun and confidence, can find another guy attractive. Lets face it, we don't fancy people simply on the basis that they are of the gender that we've 'decided' we like.
Sorry for the wall of text, and apologies if this duplicates previous points, I read pages 1 & 2 then skipped to 5. Although I feel the discussion's gone off topic...
That Penguin .... it wears a tie.an annoyed writer said:There's a bigger problem than you think: Penguins are actually running the world in secret, under the coalition of the penguin mafia. Here's one of the few photos that we know of:
These guys mean serious business. Do not fuck with them.
We're all doomed....
Also amused me in that i'm now picturing Reservoir Dogs with Penguins.
Is this the answer to the universe... Trans, cis.. none of that matters..we're all just Penguins deep down inside.
I need to see that ... Make it happen Slightly Miffed Writer .... make it happen.an annoyed writer said:
I'd pay to see that.
I'd donate a kidney to the Alcoholics Anonymous Failures Corner if you make it happen.
You've heard that saying "we're all pink on the inside"?Beautiful Tragedy said:
Well it isn't true.
We're black and white with beaks and little flipper feet.
Truth of the Universe is that we are all humans and should have love, caring and compassion for each other as this world is all we have and we have each other. We should make the best of that.Beautiful Tragedy said:
Even if you have a faith that has an afterlife why not make things on Earth as good as they can be? Stop creating divisions that lead to discrimination, suffering and even murder and genocide.
EESH! I was being silly, i know there's more to life than that.J Tyran said:
hehe we're so cute!
I know, I just have the vain hope that if I can post that as a response every time I can that enough people will read it and think about it and maybe spread the message too.Beautiful Tragedy said:
I wouldn't mind being a penguin, chances are with my luck I would end up as a male Gentoo penguin and be condemned to a life of constantly nicking stones from other penguins while they are stealing mine.