"Twists" that just don't make sense

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WolfThomas

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Spencer Petersen said:
At the end of Black Ops,
its apparent that Victor Reznov wasn't with you all those missions past the prison escape, as he was just a figment of your imagination due to brainwashing, which makes me wonder, how the hell did all those people get shot when we were on missions, did I shoot them? Was it someone else I was projecting Reznov on? Was it magic? None of these questions were answered at the end.
Reznov like msot NPCs doesn't kill many enemies, depending on the situation we can hypothesize that he projects Reznov on to other GIs on the ground or our character kills them himslef but imagines Reznov doing it.
 

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Echo136 said:
Clearly you didnt pay attention very well and need to watch the movie again

Half way in when they enter the hostile dream world the reason they need to avoid dieing is because they've used such a powerful sedative that dieing wouldnt wake them up. They would just go to limbo, which is an easy way of saying they would be a drooling braindead shell of their former self for the rest of their life. Also, Cobb's wife killed herself in real life thinking it was only a dream. Mal in the dream world is just Cobb's mentally projected memories of her, and he's gotten so many issues over the years from using extraction that he cant control Mal anymore. Make better sense now?
Well not really a drooling, braindead self.
The idea was that because time passes more and more slowly further down in dream levels, you'd hit a sort of time singularity when dying in the dream, so a single second passing inside the plane would be a lifetime lived in the dream. Put this over the hours they're under for, and it would have some serious consequences to anyone, trapped in their own little world for a near eternity, without an actual other person. That's the reason Cobb goes in to save Saito, so that he can get him out of the limbo before he's so adversely affected that he's unable to call his contact to get Cobb off whatever US watchlist it is.
 

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Quantum Roberts said:
Planet of the Apes.

Oh not the original with Charlton Heston. No, that was genius. I'm talking about the Tim Burton remake. That...but..wha?!
If it hasn't been explained already...

It is to be said that the wormhole uses the "first one in, last one out" philosophy. the ape (can't remember his name) got in another spaceship and beat Wahlberg back to Earth, changing history so that when Wahlberg arrived, everything was messed up.

At least, that's the most sense of it I can make. It was odd, but it also made that film memorable.
 

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Flamezdudes said:
BioWare did explain it, you should of investigated during the conversion at that point in the story. It's not Turian, Asari or any other because their species isn't suitable enough to become a Reaper for reasons which you can occasionally hear Harbinger say when fighting him. EDI speculates it's human shaped because Reapers like to do that on a skeletal level when they create a new Reaper.
No offense, but how the fuck am i supposed to hear what Harbinger is mumbling about whilst shooting A GIANT HUMAN/ALIEN/MONSTER IN THE EYE? with a big-ass LASER!

And yes, i heard what EDI speculates about, but it was so inconclusive. The reapers are probably coming to the galaxy to maybe make new babies, in the same way by doing something with liquid human juice?

case in point: Bioware can do better than that.
 

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GrizzlerBorno said:
Flamezdudes said:
BioWare did explain it, you should of investigated during the conversion at that point in the story. It's not Turian, Asari or any other because their species isn't suitable enough to become a Reaper for reasons which you can occasionally hear Harbinger say when fighting him. EDI speculates it's human shaped because Reapers like to do that on a skeletal level when they create a new Reaper.
No offense, but how the fuck am i supposed to hear what Harbinger is mumbling about whilst shooting A GIANT HUMAN/ALIEN/MONSTER IN THE EYE? with a big-ass LASER!

And yes, i heard what EDI speculates about, but it was so inconclusive. The reapers are probably coming to the galaxy to maybe make new babies, in the same way by doing something with liquid human juice?

case in point: Bioware can do better than that.
Here then:


Also, it's not like Shepard can ask the Reapers at this point...
 

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"Signs". The twist in this one is that everything happens for a reason or divine intervention, either way Mel Gibson's faith is restored.

BUT, (and this isn't really the twist just a part of it):

The aliens' weakness is water? Really? Considering the amount of water in the athmosphere just from walking around they'd be fucked. Presumaby they have technology for inter-planetary travel yet they arrive butt-naked with not so much as an environmental suit - which when consivering their weakness is a bit of an oversight.

Also I hate films where the twist is "It was the main character all along!" It's overused and while some films do it right, (Fight Club for example,) so many other just use it as a convenient unsatisfactory ending. Aliens is another biggie. Fuck "Knowing". Instead of climaxing in an interesting endling with what was a fairly interesting build-up we get Aliens. That's it, all explained. Not to mention that these Aliens were weirdos, gathering up kids and putting them in some fucked-up abandoned Teletubbies set... fuck "Knowing". Fuck "The Forgotton" too.
 

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Flamezdudes said:
Here then:


Also, it's not like Shepard can ask the Reapers at this point...
The Asari, Salarian, Krogan answers made sense, so i thought: "Ok why not Turian? they're tough." to which Harbinger immediately answered "Turians.........You're considered........too primitive...." WHAT? what the HELL does that mean? Too primitive? The Turians have the most organized society and most powerful Navy in the Galaxy! That is NOT primitive! does Garrus Vakarian look like baboon to you?

Sorry, dude but that was a cop-out. No good reason why the collectors selected Humans over Turians......other than the obvious: this game was made by humans and thus, is entirely Anthropocentric.
 

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GrizzlerBorno said:
Also, i don't get which "theory" you're referring to in the last spoiler tag. It's been a LONG time since I've watched the last season, let alone the first. (this year felt like a decade to me)
During the first season of Lost, most viewers thought the characters were all dead and the Island was the Purgatory. The producers quickly dismissed that theory, and even ridiculed it several times (remember Gary Troup, the writer who was among the people who died in the crash? His name was an anagram for Purgatory).
 

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Truehare said:
During the first season of Lost, most viewers thought the characters were all dead and the Island was the Purgatory. The producers quickly dismissed that theory, and even ridiculed it several times (remember Gary Troup, the writer who was among the people who died in the crash? His name was an anagram for Purgatory).
I didn't really see that as a "theory" so much as the survivors saying that stuff out of Hysteria and Panic. And i didn't know that about the anagram. Thanks for sharing.
 

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Spencer Petersen said:
At the end of Black Ops,
its apparent that Victor Reznov wasn't with you all those missions past the prison escape, as he was just a figment of your imagination due to brainwashing, which makes me wonder, how the hell did all those people get shot when we were on missions, did I shoot them? Was it someone else I was projecting Reznov on? Was it magic? None of these questions were answered at the end.
You watch Victor kill that scientist, and later you watch it from another perspective and see yourself killing him. As far as in the actual mission, its a FPS, the story comes from cut-scenes and scripted events only. The fact that Reznov shot some random VC during a mission is irrelevant.