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Interesting you have given me much to think about. Also you called my mother playing Farmville which I say Cudos.
Tyra Banks show "Decodes video game player"
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Interesting you have given me much to think about. Also you called my mother playing Farmville which I say Cudos.
Morgan Morgan Morgan.... Im really disappointed in you.
Its not that what she said was entirely off base, there could be some arguments to support what she said, but honestly it really isnt helping the problem.
What I see here with this specific situation is the girl is one of those types of girls who says "OMG he plays video games all the time.. and he never pays any attention to me.. " but the problem obviously isnt he is not paying any attention to her, its that he isnt paying what she feels is enough attention to her, and honestly the only level that is going to be considered enough for her is complete and undivided.
I mean seriously, If this guy did not care for her and did not listen to her and pay attention to her do you really think he would have let her drag him onto nationally syndicated television to basically do nothing but shame him for something he has been doing for more than double the amount of time he has been doing her. All I could think of is when she started describing it "Well you know, in the begining I really didn't notice it and it took me about a year to figure it out" and all I could think is that he plays just as much now as he ever did but now she sees something that has the ability to hold his attention better than she can and she views it as a threat.
Whatever happened to the notion of if your going to love someone you have to love them for who they are and accept them for what they are? Last I checked dragging the person you love in front of a crowd of people and just short of demonizing them for something that is a fundamental part of their existence is not really an action one does to someone they love.
Or maybe I am wrong. Whos to say.
Its not that what she said was entirely off base, there could be some arguments to support what she said, but honestly it really isnt helping the problem.
What I see here with this specific situation is the girl is one of those types of girls who says "OMG he plays video games all the time.. and he never pays any attention to me.. " but the problem obviously isnt he is not paying any attention to her, its that he isnt paying what she feels is enough attention to her, and honestly the only level that is going to be considered enough for her is complete and undivided.
I mean seriously, If this guy did not care for her and did not listen to her and pay attention to her do you really think he would have let her drag him onto nationally syndicated television to basically do nothing but shame him for something he has been doing for more than double the amount of time he has been doing her. All I could think of is when she started describing it "Well you know, in the begining I really didn't notice it and it took me about a year to figure it out" and all I could think is that he plays just as much now as he ever did but now she sees something that has the ability to hold his attention better than she can and she views it as a threat.
Whatever happened to the notion of if your going to love someone you have to love them for who they are and accept them for what they are? Last I checked dragging the person you love in front of a crowd of people and just short of demonizing them for something that is a fundamental part of their existence is not really an action one does to someone they love.
Or maybe I am wrong. Whos to say.
I think people are reading way too much into this. She seemed very much on his side and supportive of his love of games. What's more I can agree that that is the fantasy element boiled down. Guys are bored of the real world and so we decide to play video games. I think that's the same with most girls who play those games too. It's about escapism, escapists! tbh I think the only issue is women seeing it as an issue when it's not. It could equally be a guy bringing a girl in saying she spends shitloads of money and time on fashion.
On the whole the video was relatively unbiased and fair.
On the whole the video was relatively unbiased and fair.
You're a fool if you think his girlfriend cares about him, she brought him on that show to berate him. Whether he deserved berating or not (he didn't) makes no difference. Noone should be berated on television like that by their "loved one".squid5580 said:
Tyra looks down on anyone who plays videogames, you included. You must be 13, why else would you allow someone to look down on you and then defend them.
Lol you know there is a difference between who I am and what I do right? Gaming doesn't define who I am. It may be an important hobby to me but that is where it ends. I love that you accuse me of being 13 with that kind of mentality though. Well done.godofallu said:
And you wonder why gamers can't shake these stereotypes. Say one slightly negative thing and we look like a bunch of 5 yr olds.
I'm pretty sure, considering she's on G4 and when XPlay was good, she played the "straight man" to Adam, Morgan is engaging in what we in the comedy biz call "satire".
She does raise some good points, but I can't imagine her being super serious on the Tyra Banks show.
She does raise some good points, but I can't imagine her being super serious on the Tyra Banks show.
All Morgan Webb and Tyra Banks are good for are giving me oral or a hand job. Honestly what is there to decode? Guys like to play games because they are fun and a good way to get rid of some stress. Girls like to do whatever they do for the same reasons. Guy could be playing video games because his girlfriend is a ***** and wants to get away from her for a bit, who knows?
That's about right. It may sound like she's bashing dudes here, but she's really appealing to the girls to get them to listen to her and try to bridge the gap here between chicks and nerdy dudes who are just too hooked to the virtual world to understand what they want.Erana said:
I didn't really hear her say anything that was dude bashing.
GiantRaven said:
Oooh my! That was painful to watch. I started to really get red in the face! These people seem dead set in this debate, completely unwilling to listen to reason! I do wish the captions weren't there. I'd rather come up with my own opinions, rather than have another set of opinions flash before me. Not that it'd have mattered much. That interview was blatantly onesided. Poor guy was doomed to be booed out of the set.
Wait... People still take Tyra Banks seriously? I thought that would've stopped when she said she was going to "write" a fantasy trilogy about a magical land where everyone's a model where she rehashes her life story through a bunch of self-insert characters and said she was going to be the next Tolkien.
Um... Am I missing something? Not once did Morgan Webb criticize video games and she was clearly pro-gaming 100% if you even left half an ear open during the clip. Even Tyra despite making a few cliche'd comments wasn't exactly on an anti-gaming tirade. They never told him to stop playing games, she wanted him to cut down and so he should.
I've actually never been a big fan of her but this was probably the best thing I've seen her do, I agree with all her points. If a game is disrupting your relationship like that it's clearly time to make some changes to your lifestyle to accommodate. She made some very smart observations and I respect anybody who thinks beyond the surface level.
I wish more gamers wouldn't get so surprised and heat up every time there's somebody that doesn't accept video games like it's their religion. It doesn't make us look very open minded. Who cares if the old fart on Fox news thinks they're damaging children? Ignore him and move on, you're ALWAYS going to have somebody want to tear down something for whatever reason.
I've actually never been a big fan of her but this was probably the best thing I've seen her do, I agree with all her points. If a game is disrupting your relationship like that it's clearly time to make some changes to your lifestyle to accommodate. She made some very smart observations and I respect anybody who thinks beyond the surface level.
I wish more gamers wouldn't get so surprised and heat up every time there's somebody that doesn't accept video games like it's their religion. It doesn't make us look very open minded. Who cares if the old fart on Fox news thinks they're damaging children? Ignore him and move on, you're ALWAYS going to have somebody want to tear down something for whatever reason.
Now for something completely controversial. Don't think you mom is any less of a gamer because she plays Farmville. One thing far too many gamers think is that Farmville (or games like it) are easy. They aren't. Sure they require little skill and are very accessible. But the sheer amount of dedication and time required to master them (I guess that is a good choice of words) is far more than people give it credit for. To be able to buy all the stuff you want (without cheating by using real money) to make your farm look good, plus the missions themselves require alot of time. I almost guarantee if you took a hardcore gamer and a dedicated farmer and at the end of the week compared their times playing there wouldn't be much of a difference.connall said:
And they are just as passionate about their farms as we are about our FF7s and CODs.
Hells bells.... This is why the media is so back-asswards that its trying to make a problem out of something that isn't and usually isn't except in certain cases. Hello! Hes doing his best to stay with you even though you don't know anything about his hobby. If you don't like it, go find someone else who isn't into something that you find stupid... Not that hard until they actually spend a bit of time with you because then they find out they don't like you... oops did i say that out loud? Its just so... Pointless. Why is it bad someone likes to game in their FREE time? I mean yeah they shouldn't every second and there has to be something for the relationship but come on... To belittle someone because they like to do something is a horrible way to stop them from doing it because then they try to do it more to escape from the ridicule more often than not. He is being honest with who he is and not trying to make you feel like less because he likes to game. But he isn't telling you EVERY SECOND that you are an amazing person and he is lucky to be with you... Which he would be if it were true, and even then he wouldn't have to because he would show you in different ways.... Woah... I kinda rambled there for a bit.... sorry...
Any time I hear about this type of topic I always want to ask what is the difference between reading a book, watching a tv show that your other half doesn't like, painting, things that your partner cant get into and playing games. Really nothing. Its all about moderation. I play about 4 hrs a day on work days when my wife is at her work. But on our days off it is our time. She is really big into crafts and when she starts working on making stuff I pull out my laptop and boot up a game because she is not doing a joint activity that I like to do.
The point is it does not matter what you or your partner is doing, as long as it does not retract from enjoying eachothers company.
The point is it does not matter what you or your partner is doing, as long as it does not retract from enjoying eachothers company.
So you don't identify yourself by your hobbies, congratulations. However the idea that you'd take being linked with gaming culture in a definite way as an insult due to comments seen here is just ridiculous and unnecessarily inflammatory. For one thing you can't paint everyone with the same brush, something that the conservative media that you don't appear to support have been trying to do for some time. Some of the comments here have been stupid, some of them have been insightful or at the very least civil and the reason for that variation is because of the universal truth that people are individuals and usually their levels of stupidity have nothing to do with anything as arbitrary as their hobbies.squid5580 said:
Secondly have you considered that another reason for some of the more inflammatory comments here is (apart from people being people i.e. sometimes stupid) the shock value of what we just saw on that show? A woman takes her high school sweetheart and sticks him up in front of a biased audience which basically forces him to say "sure I'll spend less time on my hobby". Exactly how much input did the guy get? A couple of nods, some awkward admission. It's disgusting, I don't care if the problem was that he spent too much time gaming or making cabinets or model trains or whatever, the idea that this highly American daytime TV phenomenon even exists is awful. I'm sure it worked wonders for the relationship too, "Gee thanks honey for embarrassing me in front of a national audience, I really want to spend time with you now that I know you're capable of a betrayal of this magnitude". As far as I'm concerned as long as the relationship problem does not involve any laws being broken then it should stay between the two partners and any relevant therapists/friends/family. That's the reason why for a few moments I was sorely tempted to think of every woman on that show as a **** and no doubt that's part of the reason for the flaming we see here.
Your whole arguement is based on one thing. That he was walked to the stage, tied to the chair and the whole topic was revealed right there on the spot. And being tied to the chair he couldn't get up and walk away. This is of course under the assumption he is who he says he is and isn't a paid actor or just an attention whore claiming his 15 minutes of fame. But judging by his reaction he didn't act surprised by the reason he was there so I have to conclude he knew before he got to the set. And was a willing participant. As was she. So 2 consenting adults doing something perfectly legal in front of a camera sounds fine to me. Sure I agree with you that it should have been done behind close doors but hey this is the society we live in. We have shows like "hoarders" and "intervention". You wouldn't catch me dead on one of these shows but some people like them, other people see they like them, and people abviously want to be on them so all parties are happy. I doubt in this day and age of everybody suing everybody else that these "unwitting participants" are taking one step in front of the camera without at least signing a contract to what is in store for them. But hey I could be wrong and he was ambushed and froze like a deer in the headlights. And that was the tenth couple they had up there because the rest ran. I don't know what happens behind the scenes before the show starts. It wasn't like a big secret show where she tells him she is pregnant by his brother or something so I can only go by logic and his reactions. Both of which say he knew before the camera started rolling.Alexnader said:
Oh and I wouldn't call the audience biased. I would be more akin to call them sheep. Not that they really are mindless sheep following the pack but for that hour they are most likely swept up in the moment following the star (in this case Tyra). If Tyra had said ya gaming is so awesome I love gaming the audience reaction would have been the same. Right or wrong it has got to be kept in context. And again not everyone is going to see that gaming was somehow demonized either. or is video games such a fragile industry that pointing at 1 guy who may have an addiction is somehow shaming us all?
Now as for my inflammatory remarks. Well that is exactly what they are meant to be. Now you seem to have misconstrued a couple points though. I am not painting with a broad brush. I am not for a second saying all gamers are "gamers." What I am saying is we need to disassociate ourselves from the "gamers" if we ever want to get anywhere. They are the Tea Party to our Liberal party, the Desboro church to our Christianity. They are fanatics. And they are louder, and at the end of the day counterproductive to the cause since all they are doing is reinforcing the stereotype. So if my post offends them oh well then my work here is done. Maybe it will give them pause for thought. That is why I wrote it. I am cringing at the thought of how many angry letters were sent to Tyra over this from "gamers."
Back off *****, she's miiiiiineSkullkid4187 said:
I'm sorry I can't go too long without a ygotas quote.
We can share?
Was that really so bad? Really? Was Morgan Webb really bashing videogames, I didn't notice that really. The only thing I noticed were some lame jokes about people who play games that probably will be misinterpreted by some folks. Other than that, meh.
And the whole "You whippersnappers and your Nintendos!" thing miss Banks pulled? That surprised me, to say the least. For a moment she sounded like a gaming elitist.
And the whole "You whippersnappers and your Nintendos!" thing miss Banks pulled? That surprised me, to say the least. For a moment she sounded like a gaming elitist.